Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-21 Thread Neil Matthews 
I've tried Mapillary -- not tried OpenStreetCam yet.

Comments mostly relate to the Mapillary Android app:

  * Mapillary App drove me nuts until I worked out how to take photos
individually when walking, rather than as a continuous sequence -
more car oriented?
  * Seems to be moderately "fussy" about getting a GPS lock.
  * Takes a long while to upload images over WiFi.
  * Images are removed after loading on WiFi - so can't keep a backup,
e.g. to upload to a second site.
  * Battery life may be impacted severely.
  * Mapillary has a JOSM plugin.

Personally, I think something like running OSM tracker (or a real GPS)
and/or using naive Android photo GPS tagging might be good.
Find a good scripting mechanism to upload - without using the App?
Upload to either Mapillary / OpenStreetCam / both?
Maybe a battery pack?

There's also a thought that you might even want to pick the least
well-used site -- so that it's easier to find "your own" pictures -- you
may find a lot of less relevant shots on popular roads from others
(motorists).
It may be worth seeing how easy it is to filter them by user or
time/date on each site.

Neil

On 21/09/2017 19:09, Brian Prangle wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> I'm in discussions with Transport for West Midlands to use their
> inspection teams'  time on the street to assist us by taking photos
> with smartphones, which will also help them with their asset
> management and not have to rely on outdated data from Google StreetView.
>
> Which one of the above is better for us? Or just plain better?
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-21 Thread Simon Poole 
Not commenting directly on the pros and cons, but through their
cooperation with Here using mapillary for this would make the material
directly available to a competitor too. Now you can consider this a good
thing or bad, but in any case it needs to be considered.

Slightly OT;

while I don't have any first hand knowledge specifically about the UK, 
but continental Europe has a largish number of companies that do that
kind of photographic asset management professionally (and which seem to
have an at least half working business model because they still exist).
The results of the surveys they do tend to not be open to the general
public for privacy reasons and so on, but getting our hands on that kind
of material would be great. Naturally these kind of things tend to be
"slightly" more expensive than using a smart phone camera.

Simon


Am 21.09.2017 um 20:09 schrieb Brian Prangle:
> Hi everyone
>
> I'm in discussions with Transport for West Midlands to use their
> inspection teams'  time on the street to assist us by taking photos
> with smartphones, which will also help them with their asset
> management and not have to rely on outdated data from Google StreetView.
>
> Which one of the above is better for us? Or just plain better?
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-21 Thread Paul 

Hi everyone

I use Mapillary, becuase they are rather more forgiving of ancient hardware 
(a Galaxy S2). 

I'm OK with the Mapillary licence situation, but there are differing photo 
use licences between the two and TfWM may have views on that.


Paul

On Thursday, 21 September 2017 19:09:32 BST, Brian Prangle wrote:

Hi everyone

I'm in discussions with Transport for West Midlands to use 
their inspection teams'  time on the street to assist us by 
taking photos with smartphones, which will also help them with 
their asset management and not have to rely on outdated data 
from Google StreetView.


Which one of the above is better for us? Or just plain better?

Regards

Brian




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[Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-21 Thread Brian Prangle 
Hi everyone

I'm in discussions with Transport for West Midlands to use their inspection
teams'  time on the street to assist us by taking photos with smartphones,
which will also help them with their asset management and not have to rely
on outdated data from Google StreetView.

Which one of the above is better for us? Or just plain better?

Regards

Brian
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

2017-09-21 Thread Rob Nickerson 
Hi Brian,

Great question and one I'd love to know the answer.

Maybe you can send it to talk-gb or even talk.

They both allow use on OSM but may not allow others to use the images for
free.

Rob

On 19 Sep 2017 8:54 a.m., "Brian Prangle"  wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I'm in discussions with TfWM to use their inspection teams'  time on the
> street to assist us by taking photos with smartphones, which will also help
> them with their asset management and not have to rely on outdated data from
> Google StreetView.
>
> Which one of the above is better for us? Or just plain better?
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
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