Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 30 August 2018 at 10:58, Simon Poole  wrote:

> I can't speak specifically for the UK, but in general I would not consider 
> google of
> any use at all for determining if a road has a name or not.

Potential licensing issues notwithstanding, it's often possible to
read street name signs in Google Streetview.

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Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-31 Thread Mark Goodge



On 31/08/2018 15:30, Steve Doerr wrote:

On 30/08/2018 22:26, Mark Goodge wrote:
It was incredibly confusing to visitors, as the hamlet was nowhere 
near the post town. So we inserted "near [parish name]" as the second 
line, when giving the address. 



Off-topic, but the Royal Mail have long discouraged the use of 'Near', 
but they do allow the use of 'Via'.


I know. But they're not equivalent. Just because a location is "near" a 
named place, that does not make it necessary or desirable to travel 
"via" that place to get there. And, since the problem is created by 
Royal Mail's suboptimal approach to postal addresses in rural areas, we 
didn't feel in any way obliged to follow their preferences in the 
matter. The post always got to us anyway; it was non-RM deliveries that 
were the issue.


These days, of course, it wouldn't really matter. Nobody uses the full 
postal address to locate a destination, they just plug the postcode into 
their satnav or other mapping application and then just use the street 
part of the address for the final leg if necessary.


Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-31 Thread Steve Doerr

On 30/08/2018 22:26, Mark Goodge wrote:
It was incredibly confusing to visitors, as the hamlet was nowhere 
near the post town. So we inserted "near [parish name]" as the second 
line, when giving the address. 



Off-topic, but the Royal Mail have long discouraged the use of 'Near', 
but they do allow the use of 'Via'.



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Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-31 Thread Steve Doerr

On 30/08/2018 17:40, Ed Loach wrote:


I missed the start of this thread as I was away, but there are some 
unnamed roads in England with houses on that just have a postal 
address in the format


house name, hamlet name, parish name, postal town

or at least there is the one where I commented on this note:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1390266

for this way

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26465561



Referred to as Ravens Green Lane in this Historic England listing: 
https://www.historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1147155



Ordnance Survey doesn't seem to give it a name though.


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Re: [Talk-GB] un-named roads in UK

2018-08-31 Thread Simon Poole


Am 30.08.2018 um 23:26 schrieb Mark Goodge:
> ..
>
> This is actually a problem for OSM, as the address tags don't allow
> for a house number to be attached to anything other than a street
> name. But, in rural areas, it can often be a hamlet name.
>
> ...
Pointing out the obvious, that is what addr:place is for. So it isn't
actually an issue.




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Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-31 Thread Andrew Hain
Although Dave’s edits left out Northern Ireland, 
(https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg16162.html) the 
question of whether similar edits should take place there was left open.

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From: Brian Prangle 
Sent: 29 August 2018 13:20
To: Dave F; Talk GB; Killyfole and District Development Association
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

 I thought that you said  c roads would remain in NI but judging by Clive's 
reaction I thought something must have changed. He's obviously not convinced 
that c roads are going to remain in NI so perhaps you should  make it even more 
abundantly and explicitly clear that this is the case and have it documented 
clearly in all the right places. Can I suggest that perhaps you might also 
benefit from your own advice when making  future country-wide automatic edits

Regards

Brian

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 21:42, Dave F 
mailto:davefoxfa...@btinternet.com>> wrote:


On 28/08/2018 20:24, Brian Prangle wrote:
>  I suggest at the very least that the change is reverted for NI.
>

I wish people would read before putting their hands anywhere near a
keyboard.

DaveF

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