Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

2018-10-12 Thread Mark Goodge



On 12/10/2018 21:32, Nick Whitelegg wrote:


Interesting. "Detailed path network" in particular looks interesting, is 
this rights of way or physical paths on the ground I wonder?


It would be physical paths on the ground.

Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

2018-10-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg

Interesting. "Detailed path network" in particular looks interesting, is this 
rights of way or physical paths on the ground I wonder?


Nick



From: Rob Nickerson 
Sent: 12 October 2018 19:35:16
To: Talk-GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

Hi all,

Recap: The Ordnance Survey are working with the new Geospatial Commission on 
opening up access to more of their data.

Today this email landed in OSM UK's inbox (you too can subscribe for updates). 
It is a tad confusing because there are releasing things under two different 
routes (free up to a threshold, and fully free under OGL open data licence). 
This is explained on their website [1] but hidden under a FAQ. Here is the text:


OS MasterMap will be made available for free, up to a threshold, through an 
API. This will include:

  *   OS MasterMap Topography Layers, including building heights and functional 
sites
  *   OS MasterMap Greenspace Layer
  *   OS MasterMap Highways Network
  *   OS MasterMap Water Network Layer
  *   OS Detailed Path Network

In addition, key parts of Ordnance Survey's highly detailed OS MasterMap are 
being made completely open under Open Government Licence (OGL). This includes:

  *   Property extents derived from OS MasterMap Topography Layer
  *   Spatial identifiers:
 *   OS MasterMap Topography Layer TOIDs (Topographic Object Identifiers) 
will be incorporated into the features in OS Open Map-Local.
 *   Over the next 12 months the Geospatial Commission will work with 
GeoPlace, LGA, the Improvement Service (on behalf of Scottish Local 
Government), and OS to investigate how best to open up the key identifiers UPRN 
and USRN, together with their respective geometries, for the whole of Great 
Britain under OGL terms. Due to the importance of these identifiers this will 
need to be done in a such a way that protects the integrity and authority of 
these identifiers. A way to give both businesses and public sector 
organisations the confidence to continue to rely on these within their own 
products and services, without restricting their ability to use and benefit 
from them.

UPRN = Unique Property Reference Number
USRN = Unique street reference number

Clearly we feel that "free and without restriction" is not compatible with free 
open data and that they should be going further with their OGL release. This is 
something we will be feeding back. I encourage you to do the same if time 
and/or business interest allows.

They also link to the Geospatial Commission consultation, something that we are 
well into writing an answer. You can continue to feed back via OSM UK, or you 
can submit your own response.

[1] 
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/products/open-mastermap.html

Thanks,
Rob

 Original Message 

Subject:Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement
Date:   2018-10-12 15:04
From:   "ordnancesur...@connect.os.uk" 
mailto:ordnancesur...@connect.os.uk>>





An update on Open MasterMap Open MasterMap progress since Policy announcement 
Following the Open MasterMap Policy announcement in June by Cabinet Office, 
Ordnance Survey set up the Open MasterMap Implementation Programme (OMMIP) to 
successfully deliver the elements of the announcement that
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An update on Open MasterMap

Open MasterMap progress since Policy announcement






Following the Open MasterMap Policy announcement in June by Cabinet Office, 
Ordnance Survey set up the Open MasterMap Implementation Programme (OMMIP) to 
successfully deliver the elements of the announcement 

 that OS is responsible for. We have continued to work closely with the 
Geospatial 
Commission,
 an expert committee within the Cabinet Office, on delivery plans, and we are 
now in a position where we can start to share more of the proposed Outputs for 
your information and feedback.



Details of the proposed 'Utility' APIs and a summary of the proposed delivery 
plan can be found on our website 
>



We believe that the APIs we're proposing will ensure that users have better 
access to our world class mapping and geospatial data, but we'd welcome your 
feedback on these. We have also shared the summary of our proposed delivery 
plan in order to demonstrate several things:

  1.  Our approach to delivery will be collaborative in nature, i.e. co-design 
principles of user testing will influence Outputs
  2.  Outputs will be delivered throughout the programme, rather than a 
'big-bang'.

We're currently working with the Geospatial Commission to agree the more 
detailed 

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM on BBC4's 'Magic Numbers'

2018-10-12 Thread Dave F
I noticed that, but only on her phone. The graphic afterwards used to 
explain relative locations was something else.


On 12/10/2018 20:30, jc...@mail.com wrote:

OpenStreetMap was credited at the end of episode one from the documentary 
series 'Magic Numbers: Hannah Fry's Mysterious World of Maths' shown on BBC4 on 
Wednesday - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bn6wtp
The map was only on screen for a few seconds near the end of the programme but 
was nevertheless pleasing to see.

Jez C

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[Talk-GB] OSM on BBC4's 'Magic Numbers'

2018-10-12 Thread jc...@mail.com

OpenStreetMap was credited at the end of episode one from the documentary 
series 'Magic Numbers: Hannah Fry's Mysterious World of Maths' shown on BBC4 on 
Wednesday - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bn6wtp
The map was only on screen for a few seconds near the end of the programme but 
was nevertheless pleasing to see.

Jez C

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[Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

2018-10-12 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all,

Recap: The Ordnance Survey are working with the new Geospatial Commission
on opening up access to more of their data.

Today this email landed in OSM UK's inbox (you too can subscribe for
updates). It is a tad confusing because there are releasing things under
two different routes (free up to a threshold, and fully free under OGL open
data licence). This is explained on their website [1] but hidden under a
FAQ. Here is the text:

OS MasterMap will be made available for free, up to a threshold, through an
API. This will include:

   - OS MasterMap Topography Layers, including building heights and
   functional sites
   - OS MasterMap Greenspace Layer
   - OS MasterMap Highways Network
   - OS MasterMap Water Network Layer
   - OS Detailed Path Network

In addition, key parts of Ordnance Survey's highly detailed OS MasterMap
are being made completely open under Open Government Licence (OGL). This
includes:

   - Property extents derived from OS MasterMap Topography Layer
   - Spatial identifiers:
  - OS MasterMap Topography Layer TOIDs (Topographic Object
  Identifiers) will be incorporated into the features in OS Open Map-Local.
  - Over the next 12 months the Geospatial Commission will work with
  GeoPlace, LGA, the Improvement Service (on behalf of Scottish Local
  Government), and OS to investigate how best to open up the key
identifiers
  UPRN and USRN, together with their respective geometries, for
the whole of
  Great Britain under OGL terms. Due to the importance of these identifiers
  this will need to be done in a such a way that protects the integrity and
  authority of these identifiers. A way to give both businesses and public
  sector organisations the confidence to continue to rely on these within
  their own products and services, without restricting their ability to use
  and benefit from them.


UPRN = Unique Property Reference Number
USRN = Unique *street* reference number

Clearly we feel that "free and without restriction" is not compatible with
free open data and that they should be going further with their OGL
release. This is something we will be feeding back. I encourage you to do
the same if time and/or business interest allows.

They also link to the Geospatial Commission consultation, something that we
are well into writing an answer. You can continue to feed back via OSM UK,
or you can submit your own response.

[1]
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/products/open-mastermap.html

Thanks,
Rob

 Original Message 
Subject: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement
Date: 2018-10-12 15:04
From: "ordnancesur...@connect.os.uk" 



An update on Open MasterMap Open MasterMap progress since Policy
announcement Following the Open MasterMap Policy announcement in June by
Cabinet Office, Ordnance Survey set up the Open MasterMap Implementation
Programme (OMMIP) to successfully deliver the elements of the announcement
that



An update on Open MasterMap
Open MasterMap progress since Policy announcement

Following the Open MasterMap Policy announcement in June by Cabinet Office,
Ordnance Survey set up the *Open MasterMap Implementation Programme (OMMIP)
*to successfully deliver the elements of the announcement
that
OS is responsible for. We have continued to work closely with the Geospatial
Commission
,
an expert committee within the Cabinet Office, on delivery plans, and we
are now in a position where we can start to share more of the proposed
Outputs for your information and feedback.



*Details of the proposed 'Utility' APIs and a summary of the proposed
delivery plan can be found on our website >*




We believe that the APIs we're proposing will ensure that users have better
access to our world class mapping and geospatial data, but we'd welcome
your feedback on these. We have also shared the summary of our proposed
delivery plan in order to demonstrate several things:

   1. Our approach to delivery will be collaborative in nature, i.e.
   co-design principles of user testing will influence Outputs
   2. Outputs will be delivered throughout the programme, rather than a
   'big-bang'.

We're currently working with the Geospatial Commission to agree the more
detailed delivery plan.


Who is involved in the Open MasterMap Implementation Programme?

We have formed a Customer Advisory Group which is providing external
feedback on all of the proposed items, made up of a cross-section of
organisations. This Group has been created to provide feedback and help to
steer and shape OMMIP, ensuring most value for the intended audience of the
Policy.



We have also been working with the Geospatial Commission, GeoPlace, the
LGA, and Improvement