Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

[Robert Norris]

> From: Jez Nicholson 
> Going back to this January discussion, has anyone tagged a kiosk/pod yet? 
> what would you tag it if it isn't a 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtelephone any more?

I tend to use either:

man_made=telephone_box typically for ones repurposed with defibrillators 
(emergency=defibrillator)
or
public_bookcase:type=phone_box for ones repurposed as small lending libraries 
(amenity=public_bookcase)

and then if confident about the phone box type then something like:
booth=K6 as mentioned on 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtelephone

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Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

[Brian Prangle]

OSMUK chapter currently has a csv file of all the Inlink locations,
supplied by Inlink but the licence is incompatible and we are currently in
discussion with them. However perhaps Rober Whitaker might be able to
produe a map similar to the one for Royal Mail  postboxes where the
copyright is acknowledged and there is a heavy disclaimer that the map is a
guide to locating items for a ground survey and the data mus not  be copied
per se into OSM. BT were unwilling to supply either the locationsof the
Inlink replacements or a schedule of closures of current phoneboxes

Regards

Brian

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 16:48, Andy Mabbett 
wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 at 17:48, Brian Prangle  wrote:
>
> > BT are planning to remove thousands of phoneboxes, many of
> > which we will have mapped.I understand that for every two they
> > remove they will be installing one  InLink
> >
> > These street "pods" have free wifi, free calls, free device charging  and
> > an information tablet: all financed by the inbuilt advertising screens.
>
> There's some controversy about these InLink devices:
>
>https://www.adrianshort.org/posts/2019/bt-inlink-permitted-development/
>
> and Adrian Short has compiled a list of related planning applications,
> which may be useful for folk wanting to find examples to map:
>
>https://kiosks.adrianshort.org/
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

[Andy Mabbett]

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 at 17:48, Brian Prangle  wrote:

> BT are planning to remove thousands of phoneboxes, many of
> which we will have mapped.I understand that for every two they
> remove they will be installing one  InLink
>
> These street "pods" have free wifi, free calls, free device charging  and
> an information tablet: all financed by the inbuilt advertising screens.

There's some controversy about these InLink devices:

   https://www.adrianshort.org/posts/2019/bt-inlink-permitted-development/

and Adrian Short has compiled a list of related planning applications,
which may be useful for folk wanting to find examples to map:

   https://kiosks.adrianshort.org/

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Re: [Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

[Silent Spike]

Yes I think we could establish which entries are suitable for use (i.e.
those with an entry in the "survey" field of the database) and note this
guideline on the wiki under third party data here
.
Perhaps introduce a standard of tagging "source=DoBIH" where the data has
been used.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 8:29 AM Steven Horner 
wrote:

> I would think it would be the actual surveyed heights and exact locations
> that would be the most use for OSM. Could we not use only the ones that
> have been surveyed in the DoBH data, then this could not be claimed to be
> Ordnance Surveys data.
>
> Regards,
> Steven
>
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 12:14 AM Andy Townsend  wrote:
>
>> On 23/02/2019 23:04, Adam Snape wrote:
>> >
>> > Most of the heights should be derivable from OS Open Data mapping layers
>>
>> ... or from out of copyright OS data.  Hills don't change their height
>> much over a human timescale.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

[Dave F via Talk-GB]

Hi

disused:amenity=telephone

Many that have already been decommissioned are being reused:

Filled with flowers:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5281048654.

Tagged similar to above for emergency=defibrillator & 
amenity=public_bookcase



Cheers
DaveF


On 25/02/2019 09:47, Jez Nicholson wrote:
Going back to this January discussion, has anyone tagged a kiosk/pod 
yet? what would you tag it if it isn't a 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtelephone any more?


On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:56 PM Adam Snape > wrote:


On 4 January 2018 at 17:26, Andrew Black
mailto:andrewdbl...@googlemail.com>>
wrote:

Do we know what a proportion are going to be left.  Is it
going to be close to none.


About half: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40934210
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[Talk-GB] Manchester event Tues 26 Feb 2019

[Jez Nicholson]

Open Data Manchester are holding "Mapping Your World - a beginner's guide
to using OpenStreetMap" tomorrow night. If you are in the area then it
might be beneficial to drop in and meet some new mappers.
http://www.bit.ly/ODM-OSM2

- Jez
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Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

[Andy Townsend]

On 25/02/2019 10:09, Brian Prangle wrote:
I've tagged a couple with amenity=telephone, advertising=screen, 
wifi=free, device_charging=usb, operator=InLink BT



If those take off I'll try and add another telephone variant to 
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=17=-25.005025=135.17718 
(not a "red box" one - some kind of variant of a standard phone).


I suspect the reason why they're not at 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/tags/amenity=telephone#combinations 
is that that only shows the most common combinations.


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

[Brian Prangle]

Hi Jez

I've tagged a couple with amenity=telephone,  advertising=screen,
wifi=free, device_charging=usb, operator=InLink BT

Regards

Brian

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 09:48, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> Going back to this January discussion, has anyone tagged a kiosk/pod yet?
> what would you tag it if it isn't a
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtelephone any more?
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:56 PM Adam Snape  wrote:
>
>> On 4 January 2018 at 17:26, Andrew Black 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do we know what a proportion are going to be left.  Is it going to be
>>> close to none.
>>>
>>
>> About half: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40934210
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Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

[Jez Nicholson]

Going back to this January discussion, has anyone tagged a kiosk/pod yet?
what would you tag it if it isn't a
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtelephone any more?

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:56 PM Adam Snape  wrote:

> On 4 January 2018 at 17:26, Andrew Black 
> wrote:
>
>> Do we know what a proportion are going to be left.  Is it going to be
>> close to none.
>>
>
> About half: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40934210
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Re: [Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

[Steven Horner]

I would think it would be the actual surveyed heights and exact locations
that would be the most use for OSM. Could we not use only the ones that
have been surveyed in the DoBH data, then this could not be claimed to be
Ordnance Surveys data.

Regards,
Steven

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 12:14 AM Andy Townsend  wrote:

> On 23/02/2019 23:04, Adam Snape wrote:
> >
> > Most of the heights should be derivable from OS Open Data mapping layers
>
> ... or from out of copyright OS data.  Hills don't change their height
> much over a human timescale.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
>
>
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