Re: [Talk-GB] TfL cycle data published - schema mapping
Hi Martin, all, I have finished reviewing the proposal for all sections except from signage (will let someone else review them). I've opened issues and pull requests on the GitHub for the other things I spotted but have not reported here. https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues What are the next steps for this work? Thank you, *Rob* ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] TfL cycle data published - schema mapping
>I'm not sure how representative the associated picture is. Wonder no more: the cyclestreets website lets you filter for the TfL category and look at all the photos not just the one that was selected as representative. See: https://bikedata.cyclestreets.net/tflcid:field%3Aprk_tier=TRUE/#13/51.5119/-0.0757/mapnik >It would be good to capture covered=yes/no - but this I assume is not in the TFL data TfL have spent a massive amount of time collecting some super data. Covered was in deed one of the things they recorded: https://bikedata.cyclestreets.net/tflcid/conversion/#prk_cover Best regards, *Rob* ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] TfL cycle data published - schema mapping
I have had a quick look at the cycle parking too. A few comments:
- You suggest "bicycle_parking=stands" for 3 cases of the TfL data:
Stands, "M stands" and "P stands". I shall let others comment on whether we
want to introduce new OSM tags for these. Perhaps cyclists have an interest
if one is preferable to another. (See:
https://bikedata.cyclestreets.net/tflcid/conversion/#prk_mstand)
- bicycle_parking=locker implies individual compartments for each bike.
I was about to suggest that this doesn't therefore seem right for TfL's
"hanger" (https://bikedata.cyclestreets.net/tflcid/conversion/#prk_hangar).
Was going to suggest just bicycle_parking=stands + covered=yes. However a
look at the images suggests that these are all from a single rental company
and that they are secure spaces which you rent out (see
https://cyclehoop.force.com/RentalsCommunity/resultsmap?postalCode=se1 )
given how many there are I am sure London mappers will already have come up
with a tagging solution... Maybe just locker as you propose and not
worrying about the fact that 6 bikes share a single locker. Shed seems to
be the alternate option here.
- bicycle_parking=cyclehoop seems like a suitable new tag but again I'll
let others comment as they may have already used some other tag for these.
- For Secure I would consider bicycle_parking=shed instead of locker.
The description on the wiki seems to fit better here ("A custom-built
closed shed...").
Rest looks fine to me and the above is not a blocker - just something to
encourage others to look and have their say.
Thank you,
*Rob*
On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 22:27, Rob Nickerson
wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> I've started to look at this but only got as far as Advanced Stop Lines
> (ASL) and Crossings. I've raised issues on the GitHub:
> https://github.com/cyclestreets/tflcid-conversion/issues
>
> So far of the new tags I have only reviewed ASL position
> (left/right/center). I'm not a fan of the new tag as I think the name is
> wrong and (more importantly it doesn't allow for mixed cases such as Right
> AND Left). The TfL guide suggests mixed cases are possible. Can you see any
> in the data?
>
> Given that we are talking about the position that the cycle lane feeder
> joins the ASL "reserviour" then my suggestion is to use:
>
>- asl:feeder:right = yes
>- asl:feeder:left = yes
>
> Or some such like.
>
> Best regards,
> *Rob*
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] TfL cycle data published - schema mapping
> • Two-tier cycle parking: This is unfortunately becoming more and more > present in the UK, but bizarrely OSM does not have a representation in > widespread use currently, with only 6 instances worldwide of > bicycle_parking=two_tier. It is proposed this be used, which will hopefully > then galvanise usage beyond London. > https://bikedata.cyclestreets.net/tflcid/conversion/#prk_tier I'm not sure how representative the associated picture is. Most of this type I have encountered are at railway stations, where they seem to always have roofs and perhaps side fencing or similar. Thus I have normally used bicycle_parking=shed, but not really tried to record the multi tier system. A simple two_tier=yes might suffice, but maybe rack_levels=1 | 2 would be better. It would be good to capture covered=yes/no - but this I assume is not in the TFL data (unless it can be derived from individual photographs). -- Be Seeing You - Rob. If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
