Re: [Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Martin Wynne

On 29/12/2019 22:23, Andy Townsend wrote:

Looking elsewhere in a couple of areas I'm familiar with, as well as 
missing data, there are plenty of of basic digitisation errors around, 
e.g. gardens seeming to be significantly larger then they should be. 
This is, I guess, only the free version - maybe there's a parallel 
complete version for paying customers?


Hi Andy,

No there isn't - I'm a Premium subscriber.

The "Standard" base map is rubbish as a map in its own right. For 
example it has contour lines, but no height indications on them, or even 
which direction is uphill. What's the use of that? It is used as a base 
map for other coloured overlays in addition to the Street map, such as 
the National Park Paths, Cycle Map, Greenspace maps. None of which work 
very well.


On mobile devices there is also a low-brightness Night map which is useful.

However, the Aerial, 25K and 50K maps are fine -- and the 3D stuff and 
fly-over functions are great.


The main reason for subscribing however, is the ability to view a large 
database of routes, create your own custom routes to add to it (or not), 
and have an easy URL of your route which you can send to friends.


cheers,

Martin.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Andy Townsend

On 29/12/2019 16:43, Richard Fairhurst wrote:

OS have digitised all paths in National Parks and appear to be 
gradually digitising

others. But certainly they haven't done the full set of PROWs yet.



Interestingly, just up the road from my previous example is 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/759440934 .  That's clearly signed as 
a public footpath, it's well within the national park (see 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/759440934#map=15/54.4519/-1.0957 ), 
but it's not shown at 
https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/54.44738,-1.08281,18 .  Maybe 
they've only  done the national parks that London-based journos are 
likely to visit? :)


Looking elsewhere in a couple of areas I'm familiar with, as well as 
missing data, there are plenty of of basic digitisation errors around, 
e.g. gardens seeming to be significantly larger then they should be.  
This is, I guess, only the free version - maybe there's a parallel 
complete version for paying customers?  (a bit like the story repeated 
about the Soviet Union during the Cold War - "they may only be shipping 
Ladas over here, but their military technology is equivalent to ours").  
To check this I did try registering for a free trial to view "National 
Park Pathways", but got the message "We're sorry, we're experiencing 
some technical difficulties at the moment. The OS Maps team are working 
hard to fix the issue".


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

2019-12-29 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

Hi

In your example they're all different companies with different addresses 
& contact details, FHRS etc Tony's is one company, one address etc, so I 
think it should be one node, or if mappable, a building part area.. The 
facilities should be listed in sub tags - bar=yes, restaurant=yes  etc


On 29/12/2019 11:20, Chris Fleming wrote:

On 29/12/19 at 10:40am, Tony OSM wrote:

   Hi

   In Chorley a new entertainment business has opened -
   https://www.escapeentertainmentvenue.co.uk/

   It's primary offering is TenPin bowling, Gator Adventure golf (a form
   of indoor golf) and a bar & restaurant.

   What is the best way to tag? One node or three nodes?

   The new building is multi-tenanted and includes M Food and a cinema
   (already tagged).

I would tend to map these all as individual nodes. An example is here:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/55.94187/-3.21604=N

Sometimes, it makes sense to tag the building with the main occupant
then add any cafe's or restaurants as nodes, in your case this would be
the bowling then add the others as nodes. I would also tend to do this
for a big store which may also have a cafe or restaurant.

Cheers
Chris



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Re: [Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Martin Wynne

On 29/12/2019 15:53, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/
> This OS map render only shows a selection of paths. Does anyone know
> what criteria OS used to decide which to render? Initially, it appears
> random.

OS call that the "Standard Map", which is displayed to visitors to the 
"OS Maps" app who have not signed up for the subscription service (or 
logged in). After which you can see the "Leisure Maps" (Landranger and 
Explorer), the Night Map, and several other options.


The Standard map appears to have been made as information-free as 
possible, perhaps intentionally as a background to the street map 
overlay -- and presumably to encourage folks to sign up for a 
subscription. For example the OS Maps help page says helpfully "There is 
no legend available for the Standard map at the moment."


Martin.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Richard Fairhurst
DaveF wrote:
> This OS map render only shows a selection of paths. Does anyone 
> know what criteria OS used to decide which to render?

I suspect "only those which OS have got round to digitising". OS have
digitised all paths in National Parks and appear to be gradually digitising
others. But certainly they haven't done the full set of PROWs yet.

Richard



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Re: [Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Andy Townsend
> I've a contributor who says it's evidence that some PROWS don't existany 
> more. They're still shown in Bing's OS Explorer map & in the localauthority's 
> digital database.

... and are still on the ground in at least some cases.  As I read this I've 
just walked past here:

https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=24=54.4339599=-1.11039565

and there's a public footpath signed north  and a bridleway signed west just 
around the corner.  Neither is in OSM as I write this either, but they will be 
within a week or so.

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[Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

Hi

https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/
This OS map render only shows a selection of paths. Does anyone know 
what criteria OS used to decide which to render? Initially, it appears 
random.


I've a contributor who says it's evidence that some PROWS don't exist 
any more. They're still shown in Bing's OS Explorer map & in the local 
authority's digital database.


Cheers
DaveF

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[Talk-GB] weeklyOSM #492 2019-12-17-2019-12-23

2019-12-29 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 492,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of 
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

 http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/12676/

Enjoy! 

Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in 
to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about 
how to write a post here: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

weeklyOSM? 
who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

2019-12-29 Thread Chris Fleming
On 29/12/19 at 10:40am, Tony OSM wrote:

  Hi

  In Chorley a new entertainment business has opened -
  https://www.escapeentertainmentvenue.co.uk/

  It's primary offering is TenPin bowling, Gator Adventure golf (a form
  of indoor golf) and a bar & restaurant.

  What is the best way to tag? One node or three nodes?

  The new building is multi-tenanted and includes M Food and a cinema
  (already tagged).

I would tend to map these all as individual nodes. An example is here:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/55.94187/-3.21604=N

Sometimes, it makes sense to tag the building with the main occupant
then add any cafe's or restaurants as nodes, in your case this would be
the bowling then add the others as nodes. I would also tend to do this
for a big store which may also have a cafe or restaurant.

Cheers
Chris
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Re: [Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

2019-12-29 Thread David Woolley

On 29/12/2019 10:40, Tony OSM wrote:

What is the best way to tag? One node or three nodes?


Three *areas*, plus the building outline.

Really it depends on how much detail you have about the internal layout. 
(If there are individual administrative offices, in a different part of 
the building, and you know where those are, multipolygons might even be 
appropriate.)


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[Talk-GB] New Entertainment venue - what tags?

2019-12-29 Thread Tony OSM

Hi

In Chorley a new entertainment business has opened - 
https://www.escapeentertainmentvenue.co.uk/


It's primary offering is TenPin bowling, Gator Adventure golf (a form of 
indoor golf) and a bar & restaurant.


What is the best way to tag? One node or three nodes?

The new building is multi-tenanted and includes M Food and a cinema 
(already tagged).


Cheers and an Excellent New Year to all mappers.

TonyS999


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