Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-12 Thread Nick
UPRNs are applied to street records (e.g. 320276457 is a street record 
in Fife, I am sure there are many more).


Perhaps all these non-addressable UPRNs should be identified as part of 
the open data?


Related to this is the FOI request that Robert Whittaker made re "list 
of all UPRNs that are classified as 'historic', and a separate list of 
all those classified as a 'parent',,  " - see the ongoing battle 
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr


On 12/08/2020 20:36, Mark Goodge wrote:



On 12/08/2020 16:54, SK53 wrote:
OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the 
toid for the street name. I wonder if we should include these 
alongside usrn & uprn. They may be more useful than either for 
gathering complex roads which share a name.


Experimentally I have added this 
 toid to a street in 
Glossop.


I think adding toids is worth it, if we can unambiguously link them.

However, I'm a little concerned that someone has added a UPRN to that 
way. UPRNs are not, generally, applied to streets, and looking at the 
ESRI satellite view I suspect that that's actually a legacy UPRN which 
applied to the property before it was redeveloped for housing.


The street does have a USRN, which is 17326392. If you compare this:

https://uprn.uk/usrn/17326392

which is Foundry Close, with this:

https://uprn.uk/usrn/17301086

which is Surrey Street (that Foundry Close connects to), you'll see on 
the latter a single UPRN on top of Foundry Close. But switch to the 
satellite view on that page and you'll see that it's appears to be the 
UPRN of what was, at the time the image was taken, some empty land 
that had been cleared for redevelopment.


Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 18:27, Dave F via Talk-GB
 wrote:

>> TOIDs

> What is it?

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOID

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Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-12 Thread Mark Goodge



On 12/08/2020 16:54, SK53 wrote:
OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid 
for the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn 
& uprn. They may be more useful than either for gathering complex roads 
which share a name.


Experimentally I have added this 
 toid to a street in Glossop.


I think adding toids is worth it, if we can unambiguously link them.

However, I'm a little concerned that someone has added a UPRN to that 
way. UPRNs are not, generally, applied to streets, and looking at the 
ESRI satellite view I suspect that that's actually a legacy UPRN which 
applied to the property before it was redeveloped for housing.


The street does have a USRN, which is 17326392. If you compare this:

https://uprn.uk/usrn/17326392

which is Foundry Close, with this:

https://uprn.uk/usrn/17301086

which is Surrey Street (that Foundry Close connects to), you'll see on 
the latter a single UPRN on top of Foundry Close. But switch to the 
satellite view on that page and you'll see that it's appears to be the 
UPRN of what was, at the time the image was taken, some empty land that 
had been cleared for redevelopment.


Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-12 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

What is it?

On 12/08/2020 16:54, SK53 wrote:
OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the 
toid for the street name. I wonder if we should include these 
alongside usrn & uprn. They may be more useful than either for 
gathering complex roads which share a name.


Experimentally I have added this 
 toid to a street in Glossop.


Jerry

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[Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-12 Thread SK53
OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid for
the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn & uprn.
They may be more useful than either for gathering complex roads which share
a name.

Experimentally I have added this
 toid to a street in Glossop.

Jerry
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