Re: [Talk-GB] For motorway travellers...

2012-01-03 Thread OJ W
On 4 January 2012 00:24, Dave F.  wrote:
> There was a couple who, tired of extortionate service station prices,
> compiled a list of all good eateries one mile in all directions from each
> motorway junction.

Here's the OpenStreetMap results if you include cafes, restaurants,
pubs, and fast_food outlets that are within 1 mile of a motorway
junction, excluding any which are part of a service station (500m from
highway=services node)

http://ojw.dev.openstreetmap.org/driving_pubs/etc/osm_food_near_junctions.kml

-- of course some of those cafes/restaurants are actually service
stations (for example East Midlands Airport), so to filter them out
better we might want to add more "highway=services" objects

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[Talk-GB] For motorway travellers...

2012-01-02 Thread OJ W
The Good Pub Guide used to have a useful section for places that you
could get dinner as an alternative to motorway service stations. I
wondered if it was possible to do the same thing using OpenStreetMap
data.  So KML available at
http://ojw.dev.openstreetmap.org/driving_pubs/ (data from September)
-- and if anyone wants to go on a spree of tagging other favourite
lunch-spots with food=yes then I can regenerate that page from time to
time.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging gates on cycle path

2010-07-20 Thread OJ W
and http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgeezer/4805209155/ ? ;)

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[Talk-GB] UK counties

2010-04-18 Thread OJ W
I was just looking at the UK county and local boundaries we have in OSM:

http://ojw.dev.openstreetmap.org/counties/

- does that indicate that a little push for completeness might in in
order?  or that the other counties already exist but that I chose the
wrong rules to make them render?


(data from about a month ago)

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Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-05 Thread OJ W
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Ed Loach  wrote:
> B) use walking papers to add the house numbers.

C: render addr:housename like addr:housenumber ;)

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Re: [Talk-GB] London Underground roundel

2010-03-25 Thread OJ W
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:01 PM, David Earl  wrote:
> The other question is where do we stop? Do we brand petrol (gas)
> stations (I quite like that)? Cafe chains like Starbucks (perhaps too
> much like advertising, but then knowing on the map that a roadside cafe
> is a Little Chef lets you actively avoid it :-))? Shops with brand=...?
> Also, some logos just don't work at all that small.

the problem would be having lots of symbols (company logos) for one
type of object, rather than one symbol that's easier to recognise.  At
least you don't need to be aware of starbucks' logo to recognise a
cafe in the current map rendering.

Still, nice to know that LU symbol is available if needed. Any idea if
it can be used to represent all metro stations, rather than just those
in London?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Yet another trunk road query - A495

2010-01-03 Thread OJ W
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
 wrote:
> Some clearly do like signs very much http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/23643


http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=9931995  (advanced search,
category, "road sign". there may be other useful searches)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Proper Rights of Way coverage map

2009-10-23 Thread OJ W
just wondering: are any of the highway=footpath tags still in OSM
database?  I always used to use those for "legal rights-of-way
footpaths with a footpath sign" until it became OSM-standard that
highway=footway should be used for all paths regardless of legal
status.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail lawyers demand closure of postcode lookup site

2009-10-06 Thread OJ W
First strike! [jobcentre-plus seem to have been using this data].  Two
more, and we should cut-off the government's internet connection ;)


On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM, David Earl  wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/06/royal_mail_ernest_marples_postcodes/

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[Talk-GB] 'High speed one' rail

2009-10-01 Thread OJ W
Is this break in it intentional? http://osm.org/go/0EDRRyA6

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Re: [Talk-GB] Map of Trace data, was: Re: Stitching Aerial Photographs (John Robert Peterson)

2009-09-22 Thread OJ W
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Phil James  wrote:
> John Robert Peterson wrote:
>
> Do we have anything that will draw map tiles of the trace data? (I'd like
> this for another project anyway: checking whether traces exist for an area
> when out with a mobile device)

if it's a public gpx, then look for it at http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~ojw/gpx

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tag:Water

2009-08-23 Thread OJ W
not to be confused with water cover

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_cover

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Re: [Talk-GB] Peer verification (was: Liam123 again)

2009-08-08 Thread OJ W
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Simon Ward wrote:
> It has already been said, but I think raising the barrier to
> contribution is the wrong way to go.
>
> Instead, I’d like to see a way of saying someone has verified the data
> without changing it.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Checked_by

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Re: [Talk-GB] Sand Bar

2009-08-05 Thread OJ W
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Peter Childs wrote:
> How to I tag a Sand Bar that extends 50meters in the sea at low tide
> and disappears at High Tide. Its called "The Street" and its in
>
> Its just I can't find anything on the wiki.


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_cover

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Re: [Talk-GB] St Kilda

2009-07-30 Thread OJ W
combine it with a trip to the other big british island?

http://osm.org/go/eyl0Tr

commercial maps of the area aren't particularly detailed:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/22/rockall_map_shirt/



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:31 AM, SteveC wrote:
> Anyone fancy a mapping trip...
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8175119.stm

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Re: [Talk-GB] printing from website

2009-07-14 Thread OJ W
In firefox, the 'view image' -> 'print preview' commands on a static
map works very well -- the map image is scaled by firefox to fit
whatever paper you are using.

Of course, the resolution of the image doesn't necessarily match that
of your printer...

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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridge heights and speed limits

2009-06-07 Thread OJ W
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Richard Bullock wrote:
> Similarly 40mph is exactly equal to 64.37376 km/h
> 50mph is exactly equal to 80.4672 km/h
> 60mph is exactly equal to 96.56064 km/h
> etc.
>
> Where there is one sign only - it makes absolutely no difference whether you
> tag as maxspeed=30mph or maxspeed=48.28032. The values relate to the same
> speed.


Following that logic, you could replace "bridge = yes" with "bridge =
is the pope catholic?" -- they may be equivalent values, but one is
noticeably easier to read than the other (as with "30mph" vs "48.28032
of whatever the wiki says are default units")

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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridge heights and speed limits

2009-06-07 Thread OJ W
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Richard Bullock wrote:
> Where there is one sign only - it makes absolutely no difference whether you
> tag as maxspeed=30mph or maxspeed=48.28032. The values relate to the same
> speed.

well apart from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_precision -- I
doubt the bridge-designers intended to specify the max speed to 7
significant figures (indeed, the rumour is that 10% precision is
normal, i.e. a speed camera on a 48.28032km/h road will be set to
trigger at 53.108352km/h)

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[Talk-GB] Milton Keynes party - area 1

2009-05-24 Thread OJ W
Having missed it during the mapping party, I went back yesterday to get area 1:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.03709&lon=-0.76664&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF

a few details are still left for the local surveyors to finish later
(e.g. areas nearest Portway, the area around "MK Leisure", and some
building names that didn't have labels)

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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-20 Thread OJ W
So did we forget to map area 1?

a square of restaurants with an unfinished cake...

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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread OJ W
http://www.cbrd.co.uk/c-roads/

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Re: [Talk-GB] Milton Keynes Mapping Party

2009-03-13 Thread OJ W
Bonus points to anyone who can find the missing section of route 51...

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.04&lon=-0.6943&zoom=13&layers=00B0FTF

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Re: [Talk-GB] [OT] Coordinates

2009-01-18 Thread OJ W
You can type BNGR eastings/northings into various websites to convert them:

http://www.nearby.org.uk/coord.cgi?p=504165&p=433891&cs=1


On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Chris Hill  wrote:
> A friend of mine has received a planning application with some strange 
> coordinates in it.  The location is described by the local council as: 504165 
> 433891.  He asked me about it and it doesn't make sense to me.  I estimate 
> the OSGB ref as TA 030322 and the lon/lat as: -0.443913, 53.77588.
>
> Does anyone know what the type of coordinates are that the council is using?

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[Talk-GB] Exporting sustrans routes as GPX? (was: Sustrans long-distance routes)

2009-01-07 Thread OJ W
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> As of this weekend we have our first really long-distance National
> Cycle Network route substantially complete.

Has anyone done an exporter to convert one of those NCN routes
(relations) to a GPX route that you can put on cheap GPS units for
anyone wishing to cycle a route without having to trust the signage?

They would need to be split into 6 * 125 waypoints to fit into memory,
perhaps a couple of nodes per mile.

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Re: [Talk-GB] NCN51 Milton Keynes (was: Re: Sustrans long-distance routes)

2009-01-07 Thread OJ W
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dave Stubbs  wrote:
>> It doesn't help that local councils like to put up signs saying "End
>> of cycle route", which doesn't actually mean "End of NCN route" at
>> all, but rather "End of a particular bit of pavement/track/whatever".
>>
>
> No, those signs mean, "Well done for following our green paint. As
> your reward we will now deposit you in the most inconvenient place
> imaginable and ask you to dismount, or alternatively suggest a 90
> degree turn into oncoming traffic."

surely not...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/January2006.htm

Sometimes the cycle path can continue after those signs...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/September2007.htm

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[Talk-GB] NCN51 Milton Keynes (was: Re: Sustrans long-distance routes)

2009-01-06 Thread OJ W
Shaun and I went to map the NCN51 between Bedford and Milton Keynes.

>From the west, the signage stopped at a metal plaque in the ground
which marked the crossing of NCN51 and NCN6

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.04972&lon=-0.73357&zoom=17&layers=00B0FTF

you would not be able to follow sustrans signs beyond that point.
After some exploring, we happened upon a lone NCN51 sign in the woods:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.04413&lon=-0.71929&zoom=17&layers=00B0FTF

but it didn't lead to any further signs (we wondered if they were
having problems with the landowners of Willen Lake prohibiting signs?)

Following the route from the east, the last NCN51 sign was outside the
Wavendon Arms:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.026696&lon=-0.668013&zoom=18&layers=00B0FTF

That leads onto a cycle path (painted onto the sidewalk) leading into
Woburn Sands, but there were no further signs.  I think there may have
been a 'cyclists dismount' or 'end of cycle route' sign as it
approaches the level-crossing in Woburn Sands, not a great
encouragement to anyone following a national cycle route.  I had to
follow trunk roads and road-signs to get into Milton Keynes from
there.

We later followed the road into Wavendon, in case this helps anyone
exploring the area, and found no NCN signs along that road:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.02504&lon=-0.67369&zoom=17&layers=00B0FTF

The cycle paths between those two ends of NCN51 show some of our
attemps to locate the cycleway.  There are many cycle paths in that
area, but none with red sustrans "51" signs.

Our conclusion that day was that NCN51 was undefined through that part
of Milton Keynes.

Later we looked at the Sustrans PDF map which showed the area as a
grey "proposed route", which correlates with the lack of signage we
saw.

I think the really big message from our day trying to find NCN51 was:
please let people know when the route stops.  If some blue sign really
is the *last* blue sign for 10 miles (e.g. through Cranfield which
isn't signposted from the east either) then have a sign to say 'this
is the end of our signage' and preferably display a map to show people
how to reach the next section of NCN route.

But in terms of OSM mapping, maybe Shaun can confirm this but I
believe our coverage of NCN51 through Milton Keynes accurately
represents what exists (as of summer 2008)




On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> - NCN51 (Oxford-Cambridge-Felixstowe). Newmarket to Bury St Edmunds
> looks to be missing - perhaps not open yet? - and also bits around
> Milton Keynes and Sandy.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Announcement: Second City, Birmingham, and its surrounds completed

2008-12-23 Thread OJ W
Featured image please! pick a screenshot...  and join cambridge, isle
of wight, and anywhere near 80n in satisfying glow of success.

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Re: [Talk-GB] talk-gb-thenorth list for The North & get together in January.

2008-12-18 Thread OJ W
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Tim Waters (chippy)
 wrote:
> (the term "The North" is intentionally vague, I guess it's mainly
> aimed at North England, but if you think you are in the north, then
> you are! :-)

Apparently people at +55 degrees latitude haven't reached it yet:

http://www.cbrd.co.uk/roadsfaq/img/m6scotland.jpg

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Re: [Talk-GB] Yet another rail network map

2008-12-18 Thread OJ W
There is a bridge nearby which changed from a regular road, to a
oneway road plus footpath, to a oneway road and  footpath with cycles
permitted, to a footpath and very wide cycle lane where the road used
to be, and is now a 2-way road again.  All within the space of a year.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/8094007/history

All of that is in the OSM way's history (with a delay between the road
changing and someone from OSM noticing it) but you wouldn't know just
by looking whether that was a real change in road status or just an
edit war ;)




On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Jonathan Bennett wrote:
>> Is the idea of a separate, railways-only dataset too far fetched?
>
> I'd rather have a separate "historic objects" dataset or so, as there
> are many other historic places people would like to map but which would
> pollute the main map. Big difficulty is that past and present are
> "connected" in some places (old church, railway now used as cycleway),
> so if someone moves today's church in the database, the 100 year old
> church must be moved as well - while other things are in different
> universes completely...
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
> --
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Re: [Talk-GB] Yet another rail network map

2008-12-17 Thread OJ W
Anyone agree they should share a featured-image?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals#Trains


On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Steve Chilton  wrote:
> Bizarely, the day Kaerest released his openrailmap I had rendered a UK rail 
> network map - purely for visualisation and checking purposes, but have only 
> just had time to upload it to the server.
> It is at: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~steve8/railway.html
> No particular plans to enhance it or add details.
> It is just a companion to: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~steve8/canal.html
> which has been re-rendered with last week's UK planet file.
>
> Cheers
> STEVE
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[Talk-GB] BETT education tradeshow

2008-10-28 Thread OJ W
At LinuxExpo, OpenForumEurope offered to publicise OSM as part of
their presence at the BETT event

Is there someone intested in the education side of OSM who could
contact them to discuss details?

http://www.bettshow.com/
http://www.openforumeurope.org/

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Re: [Talk-GB] URGENT: potential stand at Linux Expo Live

2008-10-20 Thread OJ W
Should we appear on their web-page already?

http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/

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Re: [Talk-GB] Oneway assumes cars?

2008-09-23 Thread OJ W
In this case, the "opposite cycle lane" is 6 metres wide and separated
by a central reservation from the "oneway" part of the road opposite.
So tagging it like one of those painted one-metre-wide lanes might get
confusing.

But generally the question is should "oneway to cars" be tagged as
oneway=yes?  Because it paints a big oneway arrow on the map which
will confuse everyone except car-drivers.



On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Dave Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Ed Loach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Shaun replied:
>>
>>> As far as I understand oneway=yes applies to all vehicles on
>>> wheels.
>>> Therefore you have to do an exception for the cyclists and the
>>> buses.
>>> cycleway=opposite_lane; psv=opposite_lane should do the trick.
>>> It
>>> appears that in this case it hasn't been fully mapped.
>>>
>>> If it is a highway=footway, then the oneway will apply to the
>>> pedestrians. The same goes for highway=cycleway.
>>
>> Looking at
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features
>> isn't it just cycleway=opposite, rather than cycleway=opposite_lane?
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure of the difference.
>
>
> The difference is whether there is a lane for bikes in the opposite
> direction to the oneway (ie: road markings with a line down the road
> to separate traffic), or whether you can just cycle the wrong way down
> the road avoiding any on coming cars.
>
> The vast majority of the time in the UK it'll be an opposite lane or
> an opposite track (track is when it's separated from the road). Just
> ignoring oneways is quite common elsewhere in Europe.
>
>>
>> The equivalent suggested for psv makes sense, but doesn't feature in
>> Map_Features at all (and looking neither does the equivalent tags
>> for taxis, for roads where cars can only go one way, but buses,
>> taxis and bicycles (and maybe motorbikes) can go both ways). I guess
>> that just means your road will get highlighted in the MapLint stuff
>> with the "not-in-Map-Features" highlighting.
>>
>
> in my experience most well mapped areas do as people get inventive...
> personally I'd remove that test as its next to useless
>
> Dave
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[Talk-GB] Oneway assumes cars?

2008-09-23 Thread OJ W
Hi. Just noticed a street that has been marked with oneway=yes, even
though the lane in the other direction is big, wide, excellent
quality, and legal to use if you have a bus or bike.

Is the oneway=yes tag implicitly connected to the idea that maps are
mainly for private cars?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone in Bedford for some cycling? (was: Cycling between capitals)

2008-05-17 Thread OJ W
Shaun and I will be doing the ride tomorrow, starting 11am Bletchley
and follding N51 to Bedford.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Bletchley_to_Bedford_cycle_ride

There's also a section from Sandy to Huntingdon missing - it's pretty
difficult for me to reach there from Bedford, so if anyone in
Cambridge can do it, that would be good.

http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=11&lat=6840227.05251&lon=-32123.29329&layers=B00

regards,

OJW


On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Richard Fairhurst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OJ W wrote:
>
>> Was that a hint that some bedford people need to start cycling towards
>> Bletchley?
>
> :) Well, if you're volunteering... easy train transport back too, I
> guess!
>
>> p.s. where does the other missing bit go approximately?  From Sandy is
>> it north to Huntingdon?
>
> Yes, I think so.
>
> cheers
> Richard
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Re: [Talk-GB] Cycling between capitals

2008-05-17 Thread OJ W
Would it be worth including the cycle map as a layer on the front-page map?

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[Talk-GB] Anyone in Bedford for some cycling? (was: Cycling between capitals)

2008-05-15 Thread OJ W
Was that a hint that some bedford people need to start cycling towards
Bletchley?

(it's a bank holiday weekend soon, so if anyone wants to try it...)


p.s. where does the other missing bit go approximately?  From Sandy is
it north to Huntingdon?


On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a quick note to observe that you can now use the OSM cycle map to
> travel between the three capitals of Great Britain, give or take a
> very few 100-yard lacunae:
>
> - London-Edinburgh via NCN4 (->Reading), NCN5 (->Lichfield), NCN54
> (->Derby), NCN68 (->near Berwick), NCN1
>
> - London-Cardiff via NCN4 (->Chepstow), NCN48 (->Hay-on-Wye), NCN8...
> of course, we could probably make this a bit shorter by mapping NCN4
> between Newport and Pontypridd :)
>
> And the connected map also reaches to Bodmin, Dover, Holyhead,
> Gloucester, Brighton, Glasgow, even Newton Stewart in Dumfries &
> Galloway - not to mention all those mapped sections of NCN we've not
> yet connected to the "spine". (It'd be great to get NCN51 finished.)
>
> A really outstanding achievement, and I'm sure after a summer's worth
> of cycling it'll be better still.
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Some results from surrey mapping party

2008-04-21 Thread OJ W
If there are any bits that you know are unfinished, it might be worth
recording them in case someone wants to visit the area later and help with
mapping:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Southwest_Surrey_Mapping_Party#TODO


p.s. does the wiki seem like a better place for this sort of information
than 'edge of known universe' tags?



On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM, OJ W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well done to everyone involved in the southwest surrey mapping party -- we
> now offer a useful map to anyone needing a walk, a bike ride, or a country
> pub in an area of countryside which is accessible to many people.
>
> http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.164&lon=-0.693&zoom=13
>
>
>
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[Talk-GB] Some results from surrey mapping party

2008-04-21 Thread OJ W
Well done to everyone involved in the southwest surrey mapping party -- we
now offer a useful map to anyone needing a walk, a bike ride, or a country
pub in an area of countryside which is accessible to many people.

http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.164&lon=-0.693&zoom=13
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