[Talk-GB] Bracknell Forest - vandalism?

2010-01-23 Thread Tom Sutch
While browsing around Bracknell Forest I noticed that someone with a
rather puerile sense of humour has christened many of the paths and
tracks:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.37949lon=-0.76253zoom=15layers=B000FTF

Not sure whether this is vandalism or just a bit of 'fun' (I suspect
the latter). I would go through and just remove all the names but I
don't have sufficient local knowledge to determine which are genuine (I
know The Devil's Highway is right, and I'm pretty sure that Poo Alley is
wrong, but Ladies Mile could be either). Would anyone be able to help?

Thanks
Tom

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Re: [Talk-gb-midanglia] A131 + Sudbury

2009-08-01 Thread Tom Sutch
David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
 
 simon...@gmail.com wrote:
...
  Because of this I checked the Highways Agency
  website, and sure enough it's not listed as part of the trunk roads
  network (see http://www.highways.gov.uk/aboutus/6151.htm).
  
  Is there any reason why I shouldn't change its status from trunk
  to primary? This seems correct, but it's a big change to make.
  Also, I notice that the OS map shows the route in green, which may
  be how it's come to be categorised as trunk in the first place.
 
 I think you need to look at the signs on the ground. If they are
 green, leave it at trunk, if they are black on white, change it.
 
 The legal status isn't the issue, it's the observed status that
 counts.

To add to what David has said, the definitions of trunk and primary in
the 'real world' do not, unfortunately, correspond to the
conventions in OSM.  However, the way OSM does it makes it much easier
to determine from the signs on the 'ground' -- assuming they're not
wrong, of course!

Term  'Real world' OSM
  ---  

Trunk Strategic route network  An 'A' road with green signs
  managed by HA

  Can be motorway or 'A'
  road (used to appear as
  (T) on OS maps)

Primary   An 'A' road with green   An 'A' road with white signs
  signs 

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Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-23 Thread Tom Sutch
 From: Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmu...@arjam.net
 Message-ID: 4a6863b5.2090...@arjam.net

 This one has 2 dual carriageways running through it perpendicular to
 each other, and a third dual carriageway that ends at the roundabout:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.497691lon=-0.45292zoom=18layers=B000FTF

And, to add to the fun, that isn't quite right on OSM as it stands
(unfortunately I'm not in a position to edit right now), as the short bit
of road between that roundabout and the one immediately to its south is
under motorway restrictions.  See
http://pathetic.org.uk/current/m4_heathrow_spur/photos/pages/46_JPG.shtml
and
http://pathetic.org.uk/current/m4_heathrow_spur/photos/pages/03_JPG.shtml.


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Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-19 Thread Tom Sutch
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:27:15 +0100
From: Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk
Message-ID: 000601c9d864$0393d900$0abb8b...@me.uk

 I notice that some of the tertiary grid roads in MK have had what
 was tagged in the loc_ref field added to the ref field (such as H4).
 I think this looks good in Mapnik and wonder whether we should
 extend it to the other tertiary grid roads (as the primary and
 secondary ones already have their own references). It would
 certainly make a printout from OSM more useful for visitors.

Hmm, I was going to post about this.  Personally I'm not sure about
it. I can see the merit in having V6 etc prominently shown, but I think
having them rendered on the same basis as A509, B4034 is perhaps a bit
confusing. I know they're in different colours because they're
tertiary as opposed to primary/secondary, but it seems odd to be
displaying some but not all of the grid numbering system.  I would say
that within MK it is equivalent, not subservient, to the national
numbering system; different people will navigate by different means.

However, showing the grid road numbers prominently will be a key
advantage for OSM data over other sources.  The only other map I know
of that shows them is the official MK City Map
(http://www.mkweb.co.uk/mkmap/home.asp?Scale=3) which is very
frustrating to use online. I notice they seem to represent their grid
numbers on the map as part of the name, in the same font/size/colour
etc. This has a certain amount of logic to it, as that's the way they
are shown on the road signs.

MK is looking much better on Mapnik and Osmarender now that the grid
roads, and only the grid roads, are tertiary.  I'm looking forward to
seeing the redways on the Cycle Map when that's regenerated!

With reference to earlier discussion on here, I haven't finished my
mapping yet, but the roads within the grid squares that I've tagged as
unclassified so far have tended to be those named '... Gate' which are
the links in from the grid roads.

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