Re: [Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

2019-11-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

Sorry, I completely missed your reply.

The only OS layer, OS Streetview, which OSM can used is included as a 
baselayer in the main editors, but isn't being updated.


MasterMap isn't an OpenLayer.

OS's 'stance' will be "No."

On 19/09/2019 08:11, Jez Nicholson wrote:

http://maps.welhat.gov.uk/GIS/CMFindIt/ using the "Innogistic Community
Map". I'm having trouble finding a product page. Innogistic were bought by
Civica, a UK public-services focussed company, in 2011 and renamed it
Civica GIS.

It uses OS mapping with detailed property outlines (that's MasterMap, no?)

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:43 AM Dave F via Talk-GB <
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Could you clarify/give an example of what you mean by 'Community Maps''?

DaveF

On 16/09/2019 00:02, Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB wrote:

Hello everyone,
I'm currently working on mapping the neighbourhoods of Welwyn Garden City.
For that I'd like to use an accurate resource, also not to miss out of any 
(parts of) buildings.The standard aerial imagery provided in JOSM is in parts 
not good to work with, too many shadows which make it literally impossible to 
see contours of buildings.
The open data of Ordnance Survey is, as has been pointed out on the forums, too 
global to work with.
On the other hand, there are the Community Maps. They contain very decent 
shapes/contours of buildings. I would like to work with a layer like that to be 
able to compare with aerial imagery.The community map of Welwyn Hatfield gives 
Ordnance Survey as the source. I have sent a request to OS if they'd be willing 
to share the data used for the community maps, because that will be a massive 
aid in my current mapping project.
Has anyone had any experience with this, and what OS's stance on this is?
Cheers,
Luciën aka Lachgast




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Re: [Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

2019-09-19 Thread Jez Nicholson
http://maps.welhat.gov.uk/GIS/CMFindIt/ using the "Innogistic Community
Map". I'm having trouble finding a product page. Innogistic were bought by
Civica, a UK public-services focussed company, in 2011 and renamed it
Civica GIS.

It uses OS mapping with detailed property outlines (that's MasterMap, no?)

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:43 AM Dave F via Talk-GB <
talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Could you clarify/give an example of what you mean by 'Community Maps''?
>
> DaveF
>
> On 16/09/2019 00:02, Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> I'm currently working on mapping the neighbourhoods of Welwyn Garden City.
> For that I'd like to use an accurate resource, also not to miss out of any 
> (parts of) buildings.The standard aerial imagery provided in JOSM is in parts 
> not good to work with, too many shadows which make it literally impossible to 
> see contours of buildings.
> The open data of Ordnance Survey is, as has been pointed out on the forums, 
> too global to work with.
> On the other hand, there are the Community Maps. They contain very decent 
> shapes/contours of buildings. I would like to work with a layer like that to 
> be able to compare with aerial imagery.The community map of Welwyn Hatfield 
> gives Ordnance Survey as the source. I have sent a request to OS if they'd be 
> willing to share the data used for the community maps, because that will be a 
> massive aid in my current mapping project.
> Has anyone had any experience with this, and what OS's stance on this is?
> Cheers,
> Luciën aka Lachgast
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

2019-09-18 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

Could you clarify/give an example of what you mean by 'Community Maps''?

DaveF

On 16/09/2019 00:02, Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB wrote:

Hello everyone,
I'm currently working on mapping the neighbourhoods of Welwyn Garden City.
For that I'd like to use an accurate resource, also not to miss out of any 
(parts of) buildings.The standard aerial imagery provided in JOSM is in parts 
not good to work with, too many shadows which make it literally impossible to 
see contours of buildings.
The open data of Ordnance Survey is, as has been pointed out on the forums, too 
global to work with.
On the other hand, there are the Community Maps. They contain very decent 
shapes/contours of buildings. I would like to work with a layer like that to be 
able to compare with aerial imagery.The community map of Welwyn Hatfield gives 
Ordnance Survey as the source. I have sent a request to OS if they'd be willing 
to share the data used for the community maps, because that will be a massive 
aid in my current mapping project.
Has anyone had any experience with this, and what OS's stance on this is?
Cheers,
Luciën aka Lachgast



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Re: [Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

2019-09-15 Thread David Woolley

On 16/09/2019 00:02, Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB wrote:
On the other hand, there are the Community Maps. They contain very 
decent shapes/contours of buildings. I would like to work with a layer 
like that to be able to compare with aerial imagery.
The community map of Welwyn Hatfield gives Ordnance Survey as the 
source. I have sent a request to OS if they'd be willing to share the 
data used for the community maps, because that will be a massive aid in 
my current mapping project.




I would imagine the maps are based on OSes high resolution mapping data, 
which is the data from which they make their money.  I would be most 
surprised if they give permission.


Generally the commercial resources to which OSM has access are allowed 
to OSM because they are not the best information available, so there is 
little loss to their providers in releasing the data.


If you want accurate building outlines, without paying licence fees, you 
probably need to buy or hire a laser scanning surveying device.  I think 
the prices may be eye watering.


You may find that some of the more recent OS OpenData has more detail 
than StreetView data traditionally used for OSM.  You will never get the 
best data.



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[Talk-GB] Adding buildings and addresses

2019-09-15 Thread Luciën Greefkes via Talk-GB
Hello everyone,
I'm currently working on mapping the neighbourhoods of Welwyn Garden City. 
For that I'd like to use an accurate resource, also not to miss out of any 
(parts of) buildings.The standard aerial imagery provided in JOSM is in parts 
not good to work with, too many shadows which make it literally impossible to 
see contours of buildings.
The open data of Ordnance Survey is, as has been pointed out on the forums, too 
global to work with.
On the other hand, there are the Community Maps. They contain very decent 
shapes/contours of buildings. I would like to work with a layer like that to be 
able to compare with aerial imagery.The community map of Welwyn Hatfield gives 
Ordnance Survey as the source. I have sent a request to OS if they'd be willing 
to share the data used for the community maps, because that will be a massive 
aid in my current mapping project.
Has anyone had any experience with this, and what OS's stance on this is?
Cheers,
Luciën aka Lachgast
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