Re: [Talk-GB] BBC article on volunteers mapping hillforts

2013-07-08 Thread Bogus Zaba

On 07/08/2013 01:00 PM, Adam Hoyle wrote:

On 8 Jul 2013, at 11:31, Lester Caine  wrote:


Adam Hoyle wrote:

This would be awesome information to have in OSM, but as it is historic
information, sometimes with no obvious above ground visualisation, is it
definitely appropriate for the project? (Personally I hope it is, but wanted to
see what the consensus is).

OHM has been set up exactly to support this type of data ;)
But it looks a little empty at presnet :(
http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/

Wow, I didn't realise such a thing existed - looks potentially rather awesome, 
although I agree it is slightly empty right now.

What's the background / roadmap / plan with it? Is it 'owned' by OSM, or an 
offshoot?

Best,

Adam
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I believe that a lot of volunteers in this area work with their local 
Historical Environment Record (HER - usually maintained by Local 
Authority) which is generally maintained as a database with added GIS 
links (increasingly well integrated). An initially minimal set of the 
data from these HERs is being nationally made available via the national 
Heritage Gateway website (http://www.heritagegateway.org.uk). An example 
of the sort of result you can get through searching this site for 
"hillfort" is here :

http://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/Gateway/Results_Single.aspx?uid=1002662&resourceID=5.

Not sure if OSM volunteers really want to duplicate this effort, but it 
may be possible to obtain some of the mapping data from those who have 
compiled it for the HERs?


Bogus

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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC article on volunteers mapping hillforts

2013-07-08 Thread Lester Caine

Adam Hoyle wrote:

On 8 Jul 2013, at 11:31, Lester Caine  wrote:


>Adam Hoyle wrote:

>>This would be awesome information to have in OSM, but as it is historic
>>information, sometimes with no obvious above ground visualisation, is it
>>definitely appropriate for the project? (Personally I hope it is, but wanted 
to
>>see what the consensus is).

>
>OHM has been set up exactly to support this type of data;)
>But it looks a little empty at presnet:(
>http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/

Wow, I didn't realise such a thing existed - looks potentially rather awesome, 
although I agree it is slightly empty right now.

What's the background / roadmap / plan with it? Is it 'owned' by OSM, or an 
offshoot?


http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic is the discussion list, and 
it's a work in progress ... needs a bit more support to get the rules laid down 
and one of the things still to be resolved is how to link between current data 
which may have 'start_date' relevant to a search, and data which has expired 
from the current map ...


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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC article on volunteers mapping hillforts

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Hoyle

On 8 Jul 2013, at 11:31, Lester Caine  wrote:

> Adam Hoyle wrote:
>> This would be awesome information to have in OSM, but as it is historic
>> information, sometimes with no obvious above ground visualisation, is it
>> definitely appropriate for the project? (Personally I hope it is, but wanted 
>> to
>> see what the consensus is).
> 
> OHM has been set up exactly to support this type of data ;)
> But it looks a little empty at presnet :(
> http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/

Wow, I didn't realise such a thing existed - looks potentially rather awesome, 
although I agree it is slightly empty right now.

What's the background / roadmap / plan with it? Is it 'owned' by OSM, or an 
offshoot?

Best,

Adam
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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC article on volunteers mapping hillforts

2013-07-08 Thread Lester Caine

Adam Hoyle wrote:

This would be awesome information to have in OSM, but as it is historic
information, sometimes with no obvious above ground visualisation, is it
definitely appropriate for the project? (Personally I hope it is, but wanted to
see what the consensus is).


OHM has been set up exactly to support this type of data ;)
But it looks a little empty at presnet :(
http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/

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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC article on volunteers mapping hillforts

2013-07-08 Thread Adam Hoyle
John,

This would be awesome information to have in OSM, but as it is historic 
information, sometimes with no obvious above ground visualisation, is it 
definitely appropriate for the project? (Personally I hope it is, but wanted to 
see what the consensus is). 

There are existing sites such as http://www.themodernantiquarian.com and 
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/ which contain a lot of information on such things 
but as far as I know they lack a map feature - seems to me that OSM would be 
perfect if it's deemed appropriate by the community

There is a list of the people involved here: 
http://www.arch.ox.ac.uk/hillforts-atlas-team.html anyone on here already know 
any of them already?

Best,

Adam

On 8 Jul 2013, at 10:53, John Sturdy  wrote:

> No mention of OSM that I can see, though; a different kind of "mapping":
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-23203500
> 
> http://www.arch.ox.ac.uk/hillforts-atlas.html
> 
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[Talk-GB] BBC article on volunteers mapping hillforts

2013-07-08 Thread John Sturdy
No mention of OSM that I can see, though; a different kind of "mapping":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-23203500

http://www.arch.ox.ac.uk/hillforts-atlas.html


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