Re: [Talk-GB] Cycle routes - please document your relations!

2012-08-22 Thread Robert Norris



> >
> > Otherwise we end up with the situation that routes get accidentally
> > mapped with three or four separate relations, sometimes even on the same
> > way. And yes, we should have an awesome search-by-tag function for
> > relations in the API, but patches welcome etc.
>
> Have you tried http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Permanent_ID ?
>

I find this is much better:

http://ra.osmsurround.org/


Sometime in the last year it was upgraded from just a simple exact 
'spade'='spade' search, to give multiple answers ('spade street', 'spade lane', 
'my spade', etc)

And a bunch of other search and analysis facilities too.

HTH.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Cycle routes - please document your relations!

2012-08-22 Thread Andrew
Richard Fairhurst  writes:

> 
> Please use it! Before creating an NCN relation, check if one exists 
> already; and after you've created one, please add the id to the table.
> 
> Otherwise we end up with the situation that routes get accidentally 
> mapped with three or four separate relations, sometimes even on the same 
> way. And yes, we should have an awesome search-by-tag function for 
> relations in the API, but patches welcome etc.

Have you tried http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Permanent_ID ?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Cycle routes - please document your relations!

2012-08-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Graham Stewart wrote:
>- Should ALL NCN route relations be in this table

Yes. I don't think we're at any risk of out-boggling Map Features quite yet.
;)

>- Does the 1x, 2x, 3x etc numbering system still apply?

Yes. It's just that there's now also 1xx, 2xx, 3xx etc.

> The Sustrans numbering system has always seemed a little 
> broken to me. NCN10 is apparently "Eastern" despite being 
> a Coast to Coast route, and doesn't qualify as "7x. Scotland 
> and Northern England" despite being further north than the 
> NCN72. Very odd.

AIUI that's because it was originally Regional Route 10. Re-signing it (last
year, I think) as NCN10, which hadn't been taken, was an expedient way of
getting rid of a Regional Route without causing much confusion. It's
certainly no more broken than the A-road numbering system where
"out-of-zone" roads such as the A14 etc. are now incredibly commonplace.

cheers
Richard





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Re: [Talk-GB] Cycle routes - please document your relations!

2012-08-18 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)

Richard Fairhurst wrote
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_National_Cycle_Network/National_Routes
> ..
> Please use it! Before creating an NCN relation, check if one exists 
> already; and after you've created one, please add the id to the table.
> 

Couple of quick questions:

- Should ALL NCN route relations be in this table or just the larger
national ones? 
(I've just added NCN141 which is a relatively small route, but is properly
signed by the red and white NCN route signs). Perhaps we should have some
text on that Wiki page to clarify what the table should contain?

- Does the 1x, 2x, 3x etc numbering system still apply? I understood that
Sustrans were in the process of reclassifying some regional routes and
adding more 3-digit routes? (See
http://www.sustrans.org.uk/what-we-do/national-cycle-network/route-numbering-system
)

The Sustrans numbering system has always seemed a little broken to me. NCN10
is apparently "Eastern" despite being a Coast to Coast route, and doesn't
qualify as "7x. Scotland and Northern England" despite being further north
than the NCN72. Very odd.



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[Talk-GB] Cycle routes - please document your relations!

2012-08-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Hi all,

There is a very useful wiki page:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_National_Cycle_Network/National_Routes

which documents ids for each route relation on the NCN.

Please use it! Before creating an NCN relation, check if one exists 
already; and after you've created one, please add the id to the table.


Otherwise we end up with the situation that routes get accidentally 
mapped with three or four separate relations, sometimes even on the same 
way. And yes, we should have an awesome search-by-tag function for 
relations in the API, but patches welcome etc.


cheers
Richard

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