Re: [Talk-GB] Driving Test routes

2010-04-13 Thread Chris Hill
Ed Loach wrote:
 I know there are people out there with time on their hands, just itching to 
 find more uses for OSM. We've bus route maps, cycling route maps, and even in 
 the West Midlands a gritting routes map. Today I stumbled across the fact 
 that driving test routes are on the DSA website in a text format without any 
 worry about them being derived from OS data that hasn't been released. 

 http://www.dsa.gov.uk/AtoZservices_Bannered.asp?Cat=-1TestType=carTypeID=17

 Then pick a centre and there should be download links on the right with PDFs 
 describing the routes in text. 

 Of course, the first debate is about whether we can use these. The website 
 displays a Crown Copyright message, but the PDFs don't seem to display any 
 terms/licence/copyright information on them. 

   
The terms of use include: not re-use the information for promotion or 
advertising purposes. Since we don't have such restrictions on the use 
of OSM data I don't think it is compatible. You could build a separate 
layer I suppose.

Cheers, Chris

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Re: [Talk-GB] Driving Test routes

2010-04-13 Thread Phil Monger
I would go the route of contacting them, and saying : Hey, have you heard
of OSM? Why don't you stick up proper streetmapping on your website showing
the routes, for free? If you donate your route data it will get added to the
map and ...  ect.

I've learned that a reciprocal relationship like this is one of the best
ways of getting something from someone.

Otherwise, *no* - unless something is clearly marked as copyleft / Creative
Commons then it is in copyright, there is no need to display copyright for
it to apply.


On 13 April 2010 18:50, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:

 Ed Loach wrote:
  I know there are people out there with time on their hands, just itching
 to find more uses for OSM. We've bus route maps, cycling route maps, and
 even in the West Midlands a gritting routes map. Today I stumbled across the
 fact that driving test routes are on the DSA website in a text format
 without any worry about them being derived from OS data that hasn't been
 released.
 
 
 http://www.dsa.gov.uk/AtoZservices_Bannered.asp?Cat=-1TestType=carTypeID=17
 
  Then pick a centre and there should be download links on the right with
 PDFs describing the routes in text.
 
  Of course, the first debate is about whether we can use these. The
 website displays a Crown Copyright message, but the PDFs don't seem to
 display any terms/licence/copyright information on them.
 
 
 The terms of use include: not re-use the information for promotion or
 advertising purposes. Since we don't have such restrictions on the use
 of OSM data I don't think it is compatible. You could build a separate
 layer I suppose.

 Cheers, Chris

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