Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release
There is also a wiki pages about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Property_extents_in_the_United_Kingdom and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_OpenData that need updating. On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:41 PM Rob Nickerson wrote: > Sounds like a good idea. Do you (or anyone else) have time to arrange this? > > As for initial ideas these inspire polygons could be useful as a source to > check alignment, split terraced buildings into the correct number of parts > prior to surveying the house numbers, and look for potential missing urban > paths/shortcuts. That's a few that came to me initially but I'm sure there > are many more. > > Best regards > Rob > > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020, 09:50 Andrew Hain, > wrote: > >> A lightning talk could get some attention, including mappers with >> experience of datasets elsewhere in the world. >> >> -- >> Andrew >> -- >> *From:* Rob Nickerson >> *Sent:* 26 June 2020 20:49 >> *To:* Talk-GB >> *Subject:* [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release >> >> Hi all, >> >> Looks like 1 July will be a big open data release day. Not only do we get >> the USRN and UPRN data, but the land registry data will also be released: >> >> >> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inspire-data-to-be-shared-under-open-terms >> >> Should we attempt to coordinate something to prevent a mixture of uses >> across those OSMers who may want to do something with this date? >> >> Best regards >> Rob >> > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release
Sounds like a good idea. Do you (or anyone else) have time to arrange this? As for initial ideas these inspire polygons could be useful as a source to check alignment, split terraced buildings into the correct number of parts prior to surveying the house numbers, and look for potential missing urban paths/shortcuts. That's a few that came to me initially but I'm sure there are many more. Best regards Rob On Sat, 27 Jun 2020, 09:50 Andrew Hain, wrote: > A lightning talk could get some attention, including mappers with > experience of datasets elsewhere in the world. > > -- > Andrew > -- > *From:* Rob Nickerson > *Sent:* 26 June 2020 20:49 > *To:* Talk-GB > *Subject:* [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release > > Hi all, > > Looks like 1 July will be a big open data release day. Not only do we get > the USRN and UPRN data, but the land registry data will also be released: > > > https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inspire-data-to-be-shared-under-open-terms > > Should we attempt to coordinate something to prevent a mixture of uses > across those OSMers who may want to do something with this date? > > Best regards > Rob > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release
Agree with - My preference was for ref:GB:uprn and ref:GB:usrn, Can we put onto the Wiki as placeholders and ask people to refrain from changes until agreement on how best to use them and apply a source reference. I'm thinking that the data may be more accurate than our existing methods allow, so what will be policy of updating OSM data with new shapes from INSPIRE. Tony Shield TonyS999 On 27/06/2020 08:58, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 20:50, Rob Nickerson wrote: Looks like 1 July will be a big open data release day. Not only do we get the USRN and UPRN data, but the land registry data will also be released: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inspire-data-to-be-shared-under-open-terms Should we attempt to coordinate something to prevent a mixture of uses across those OSMers who may want to do something with this date? I'm not sure about the INSPIRE polygons, but for USRNs and UPRNs, I'd imagine it will be useful to add these identifiers to the appropriate OSM objects. (I can see doing this being very useful in terms or measuring completeness in OSM, and finding missing streets/properties to add.) To that end, we should agree on a tagging to use for these references. I started a conversation at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-April/024383.html about this. My preference was for ref:GB:uprn and ref:GB:usrn, though I think there were some people arguing for the simpler ref:uprn and ref:usrn. Does anyone have any details of the specifications of the UPRN, USRN or INSPIRE releases? For example, I'm assuming we won't get the addresses with the UPRNs, just the coordinates, but will they be linked to streets (via USRNs) and will each include a type/class? Will we get street names with the USRNs? For the INSPIRE polygons will we just get the INSPIRE ID, or will it be linked to LAnd Registry title numbers or UPRNs? (Depending on exactly what we get, it could be very useful for adding and checking postcodes. e.g. if we have all the UPRNs that are tied to a single USRN, and we know there's only one postcode centroid on any of them, it's a good bet those properties all have the same postcode.) Robert. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release
A lightning talk could get some attention, including mappers with experience of datasets elsewhere in the world. -- Andrew From: Rob Nickerson Sent: 26 June 2020 20:49 To: Talk-GB Subject: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release Hi all, Looks like 1 July will be a big open data release day. Not only do we get the USRN and UPRN data, but the land registry data will also be released: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inspire-data-to-be-shared-under-open-terms Should we attempt to coordinate something to prevent a mixture of uses across those OSMers who may want to do something with this date? Best regards Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release
On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 20:50, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Looks like 1 July will be a big open data release day. Not only do we get the > USRN and UPRN data, but the land registry data will also be released: > > https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inspire-data-to-be-shared-under-open-terms > > Should we attempt to coordinate something to prevent a mixture of uses across > those OSMers who may want to do something with this date? I'm not sure about the INSPIRE polygons, but for USRNs and UPRNs, I'd imagine it will be useful to add these identifiers to the appropriate OSM objects. (I can see doing this being very useful in terms or measuring completeness in OSM, and finding missing streets/properties to add.) To that end, we should agree on a tagging to use for these references. I started a conversation at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-April/024383.html about this. My preference was for ref:GB:uprn and ref:GB:usrn, though I think there were some people arguing for the simpler ref:uprn and ref:usrn. Does anyone have any details of the specifications of the UPRN, USRN or INSPIRE releases? For example, I'm assuming we won't get the addresses with the UPRNs, just the coordinates, but will they be linked to streets (via USRNs) and will each include a type/class? Will we get street names with the USRNs? For the INSPIRE polygons will we just get the INSPIRE ID, or will it be linked to LAnd Registry title numbers or UPRNs? (Depending on exactly what we get, it could be very useful for adding and checking postcodes. e.g. if we have all the UPRNs that are tied to a single USRN, and we know there's only one postcode centroid on any of them, it's a good bet those properties all have the same postcode.) Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release
Here's the corresponding page for those living and/or mapping in Scotland: https://www.ros.gov.uk/about/news/2020/hmlr-and-ros-to-share-inspire-data Best wishes, Rob On Fri, 26 Jun 2020, 20:49 Rob Nickerson, wrote: > Hi all, > > Looks like 1 July will be a big open data release day. Not only do we get > the USRN and UPRN data, but the land registry data will also be released: > > > https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inspire-data-to-be-shared-under-open-terms > > Should we attempt to coordinate something to prevent a mixture of uses > across those OSMers who may want to do something with this date? > > Best regards > Rob > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Land Registry INSPIRE data - 1 July OGL release
Hi all, Looks like 1 July will be a big open data release day. Not only do we get the USRN and UPRN data, but the land registry data will also be released: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/inspire-data-to-be-shared-under-open-terms Should we attempt to coordinate something to prevent a mixture of uses across those OSMers who may want to do something with this date? Best regards Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
