Re: [Talk-GB] Licensing compatibility

2018-02-15 Thread Simon Poole 
Its my personal opinion (which I believe is clear from the text), but
given that the attribution terms are essentially the same as for the
ODbL, a licence we just happen to have a lot of experience with :-), it
is fairly clear that we would be contradicting our stance on acceptable
attribution of OSM if the LWG came to a different formal conclusion.

But I can naturally table a formal compatibility determination, I just
can't guarantee that it will be available quickly given that we are
rather busy with GDPR related work.

Simon


Am 15.02.2018 um 12:06 schrieb Brian Prangle:
> Thanks for that Simon - is that just your personal opinion? Should I
> contact LWG for an official OSMF position?
>
> On 15 February 2018 at 09:03, Simon Poole  > wrote:
>
> AFAIK we've not had any data licensed on ODC-BY 1.0 imported, at
> least not on a larger scale.
>
> The ODC-BY licence was supposed to be compatible with distribution
> on ODBL terms just as CC BY should be with CC BY-SA (I would
> however argue that both do not actually meet that goal), so most
> terms are similar to the ODBL. I do believe that we would at least
> need a statement that central attribution as we provide it is OK
> with the data source as the ODC-BY terms do not seem to cater for
> this.
>
> Simon
>
>
> Am 14.02.2018 um 17:44 schrieb Brian Prangle:
>> Hi
>>
>> Following my blog criticising BT
>> 
>> for not releasing data,  Inlink UK 
>> have been in touch saying they'd be only too glad to release
>> their data so we can use it in OSM. They've asked the following
>> question which floors me.Can anyone help? I don't think this one
>> was on the list of compatible licences on the wiki
>>
>> To assist with this are you able to indicate whether you
>> currently use any data provided under the ODC Attribution License
>> (ODC-BY 1.0) or similar licenses providing data attribution and,
>> if so, how they interact with the information you release under
>> ODC-ODBL 1.0?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Brian
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Licensing compatibility

2018-02-15 Thread Brian Prangle 
Thanks for that Simon - is that just your personal opinion? Should I
contact LWG for an official OSMF position?

On 15 February 2018 at 09:03, Simon Poole  wrote:

> AFAIK we've not had any data licensed on ODC-BY 1.0 imported, at least not
> on a larger scale.
>
> The ODC-BY licence was supposed to be compatible with distribution on ODBL
> terms just as CC BY should be with CC BY-SA (I would however argue that
> both do not actually meet that goal), so most terms are similar to the
> ODBL. I do believe that we would at least need a statement that central
> attribution as we provide it is OK with the data source as the ODC-BY terms
> do not seem to cater for this.
>
> Simon
>
> Am 14.02.2018 um 17:44 schrieb Brian Prangle:
>
> Hi
>
> Following my blog criticising BT
> 
> for not releasing data,  Inlink UK  have been
> in touch saying they'd be only too glad to release their data so we can use
> it in OSM. They've asked the following question which floors me.Can anyone
> help? I don't think this one was on the list of compatible licences on the
> wiki
>
> To assist with this are you able to indicate whether you currently use any
> data provided under the ODC Attribution License (ODC-BY 1.0) or similar
> licenses providing data attribution and, if so, how they interact with the
> information you release under ODC-ODBL 1.0?
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Licensing compatibility

2018-02-15 Thread Simon Poole 
AFAIK we've not had any data licensed on ODC-BY 1.0 imported, at least
not on a larger scale.

The ODC-BY licence was supposed to be compatible with distribution on
ODBL terms just as CC BY should be with CC BY-SA (I would however argue
that both do not actually meet that goal), so most terms are similar to
the ODBL. I do believe that we would at least need a statement that
central attribution as we provide it is OK with the data source as the
ODC-BY terms do not seem to cater for this.

Simon


Am 14.02.2018 um 17:44 schrieb Brian Prangle:
> Hi
>
> Following my blog criticising BT
> 
> for not releasing data,  Inlink UK  have
> been in touch saying they'd be only too glad to release their data so
> we can use it in OSM. They've asked the following question which
> floors me.Can anyone help? I don't think this one was on the list of
> compatible licences on the wiki
>
> To assist with this are you able to indicate whether you currently use
> any data provided under the ODC Attribution License (ODC-BY 1.0) or
> similar licenses providing data attribution and, if so, how they
> interact with the information you release under ODC-ODBL 1.0?
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
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[Talk-GB] Licensing compatibility

2018-02-14 Thread Brian Prangle 
Hi

Following my blog criticising BT

for not releasing data,  Inlink UK  have been in
touch saying they'd be only too glad to release their data so we can use it
in OSM. They've asked the following question which floors me.Can anyone
help? I don't think this one was on the list of compatible licences on the
wiki

To assist with this are you able to indicate whether you currently use any
data provided under the ODC Attribution License (ODC-BY 1.0) or similar
licenses providing data attribution and, if so, how they interact with the
information you release under ODC-ODBL 1.0?

Regards

Brian
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