Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25K tracing

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
+1

Power lines is a good example. We have some that were added for Birmingham
from the 1:25k which are no longer present. Its easy to fix but a task we
needn't have to do if folks traced what they know is present still on the
ground.

Cheers

Andy

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Subject: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25K tracing


Since the out of copyright 1:25K maps appeared, there has been rather a
lot of tracing going on.  On the whole, I think the availability of this
data is good.  However, I have noticed that around the Gower peninsula,
quite a few nonexistent roads, etc. have appeared and have been attributed
to these maps.

I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that blindly tracing fairly
old maps without doing any kind of a survey is pretty counterproductive -
someone now has to go around and survey and delete these bogus features.

By all means, trace the maps to add stuff you know is there, but please
don't just trace everything without some local knowledge.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25K tracing

2010-01-22 Thread Chris Hill
Steve Hill wrote:
 Since the out of copyright 1:25K maps appeared, there has been rather a 
 lot of tracing going on.  On the whole, I think the availability of this 
 data is good.  However, I have noticed that around the Gower peninsula, 
 quite a few nonexistent roads, etc. have appeared and have been attributed 
 to these maps.

 I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that blindly tracing fairly 
 old maps without doing any kind of a survey is pretty counterproductive - 
 someone now has to go around and survey and delete these bogus features.

 By all means, trace the maps to add stuff you know is there, but please 
 don't just trace everything without some local knowledge.

   
+1


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Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25K tracing

2010-01-22 Thread Jason Cunningham
+1,
 I think we should be printing off maps and using them during walks. Mark
whats there, or not, with a highlighter pen.

Havent used 1:25K maps yet, but I have compared them using google when a
similar issue arose a couple of days ago. Its clear a huge amount of changes
have happened and it would be stupid to simply trace.

We can't trace over google/bing satelite imagery because contract/terms of
use, but it is tempting use the google satellite images to check what can be
traced from the 1:25K (still the chance google is out-of-date!). This
doesn't appear to go against google's terms of use.

Jason

2010/1/21 Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org


 Since the out of copyright 1:25K maps appeared, there has been rather a
 lot of tracing going on.  On the whole, I think the availability of this
 data is good.  However, I have noticed that around the Gower peninsula,
 quite a few nonexistent roads, etc. have appeared and have been attributed
 to these maps.

 I'd like to take the opportunity to point out that blindly tracing fairly
 old maps without doing any kind of a survey is pretty counterproductive -
 someone now has to go around and survey and delete these bogus features.

 By all means, trace the maps to add stuff you know is there, but please
 don't just trace everything without some local knowledge.

 --

  - Steve
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Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25K tracing

2010-01-22 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Jason Cunningham wrote:

 We can't trace over google/bing satelite imagery because contract/terms of
 use, but it is tempting use the google satellite images to check what can be
 traced from the 1:25K (still the chance google is out-of-date!). This
 doesn't appear to go against google's terms of use.

Yes, I don't see a problem with this, but it would be nice to hear some 
legal direction from those in the know.

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