Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
On 16/10/12 13:25, davespod wrote: Other recent dubious edits by the same person include this one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/179146263 Evidently a joke with reference to: http://www.halesowennews.co.uk/news/9373133.Innocent_Oldbury_residents_driven_out_over_anti_paedophile_storm/ We have had problematic edits from that young man before. He seems to have changed his OSM ID (from TomPopple) but still added the link to his site. I have exchanged messages with him when he vandalised my local area. I got daft explanations and abuse so I reverted his edits. I seem to remember others having had problems with him too. A block would be beneficial so he understands that kind of edit is unwelcome, other means seem to ineffective. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
Chris Hill wrote: We have had problematic edits from that young man before. He seems to have changed his OSM ID (from TomPopple) For the avoidance of confusion, and not blocking the wrong user (!), actually the old name was tompople, unused since Jan 2012. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
We in the West Mids are well aware of this user and have been monitoring and cleaning up after him for some time. He has never replied to any emails we have sent him, except very early on. He is very unusual and seems to be a Jekyll and Hyde character who has done some excellent work where he lives http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.48597lon=-2.01231zoom=16layers=M and in other areas just has a brainstorm. Judging from his early replies and from his personal website and his attention to local schools in his area he seems to be a very young person ( 12-13??) with an obsession for maps. Banning him will result in him popping up with another name which will make him difficult to track. We know to monitor his activities I'm interested you've had abusive replies from him and also this Halesowen edit - perhaps there are 2 people using this account? Regards Brian On 16 October 2012 13:48, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Chris Hill wrote: We have had problematic edits from that young man before. He seems to have changed his OSM ID (from TomPopple) For the avoidance of confusion, and not blocking the wrong user (!), actually the old name was tompople, unused since Jan 2012. Cheers, Andy __**_ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-gbhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
On 16/10/2012 14:31, Brian Prangle wrote: Banning him will result in him popping up with another name which will make him difficult to track. I'm no expert, but can he be tracked by his IP address no matter what account (assuming he's using the same computer?) Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 16/10/2012 14:31, Brian Prangle wrote: Banning him will result in him popping up with another name which will make him difficult to track. I'm no expert, but can he be tracked by his IP address no matter what account (assuming he's using the same computer?) Dave F. Unfortunately not, IPs can change over time at arbitrary intervals. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
Sorry, youre right. Memory let me down :-( SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Chris Hill wrote: We have had problematic edits from that young man before. He seems to have changed his OSM ID (from TomPopple) For the avoidance of confusion, and not blocking the wrong user (!), actually the old name was tompople, unused since Jan 2012. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb Cheers, Chris User chillly Blog http://chris-osm.blogspot.com___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
Taking a closer look and will revert if required. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 15 October 2012 20:33 To: talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands Does anyone know if the A460 is now subject to motorway regulations as it passes over the M6 and M6 Toll? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.66199lon=- 2.06171zoom=16layers=M I'm guessing that it doesn't, and that the two most recent changes here (to motorway_link and adding bicycle=no) are incorrect. The changesets involved are 13371510 and 13327657. 13371510 seems to be mechanically adding bicycle = no to motorway links. 13327657 seems to be part of a problematic series of edits which includes some railway deletions, which someone's already repaired as part of changeset 13402098. I mention it here because if there is a bucket-and-shovel job to be done, it's best done by someone familiar with the area Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
Does anyone know if the A460 is now subject to motorway regulations as it passes over the M6 and M6 Toll? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.66199lon=-2.06171zoom=16layers=M I'm guessing that it doesn't, and that the two most recent changes here (to motorway_link and adding bicycle=no) are incorrect. The changesets involved are 13371510 and 13327657. 13371510 seems to be mechanically adding bicycle = no to motorway links. 13327657 seems to be part of a problematic series of edits which includes some railway deletions, which someone's already repaired as part of changeset 13402098. I mention it here because if there is a bucket-and-shovel job to be done, it's best done by someone familiar with the area Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
On 15/10/12 20:33, SomeoneElse wrote: Does anyone know if the A460 is now subject to motorway regulations as it passes over the M6 and M6 Toll? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.66199lon=-2.06171zoom=16layers=M No - it is a trunk road. I'm guessing that it doesn't, and that the two most recent changes here (to motorway_link and adding bicycle=no) are incorrect. The changesets involved are 13371510 and 13327657. 13371510 seems to be mechanically adding bicycle = no to motorway links. 13327657 seems to be part of a problematic series of edits which includes some railway deletions, which someone's already repaired as part of changeset 13402098. Shall I repair this straight away, or does the whole changeset need reverting (which I don't think I should do)? Cheers, Eike ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
Hi Andy The A460 is very definitely not a motorway. The change is wrong and needs to be reverted. As a new Shropshire resident, I regularly travel this way, as our familes are still in Leicestershire. I can correct this from knowledge easily and can run a new GPS trace when I go that way at the weekend. Will give me an excuse to look at the MGs. I have come across both users in the past, the change to a motorway looks like vandalism to me. Have you contacted the user? In the past I have come across him using NPE maps to tag long since disappeared railway stations on the Wales/Shropshire border, on a long since closed railway. I did email the other user about adding bicycle=no to motorways, and got the following reply: On 2012-09-21 19:31:49 UTC trig222 wrote: I have spotted that you have been tagging motorways as bicycle=no. Is there any reason you are doing this? It is implied by the highway being a motorway. Because I want to. My edits are not vandalism, they are correct and so why I am doing them is not really germane now is it? His use of words like germane (I had to google it), did not impress me. But probably harmless. Cheers Phil (trig222) On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 20:33 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote: Does anyone know if the A460 is now subject to motorway regulations as it passes over the M6 and M6 Toll? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.66199lon=-2.06171zoom=16layers=M I'm guessing that it doesn't, and that the two most recent changes here (to motorway_link and adding bicycle=no) are incorrect. The changesets involved are 13371510 and 13327657. 13371510 seems to be mechanically adding bicycle = no to motorway links. 13327657 seems to be part of a problematic series of edits which includes some railway deletions, which someone's already repaired as part of changeset 13402098. I mention it here because if there is a bucket-and-shovel job to be done, it's best done by someone familiar with the area Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands
Taking a closer look and will revert if required. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: SomeoneElse [mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk] Sent: 15 October 2012 20:33 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Odd edits around the A460 in the W Midlands Does anyone know if the A460 is now subject to motorway regulations as it passes over the M6 and M6 Toll? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.66199lon=- 2.06171zoom=16layers=M I'm guessing that it doesn't, and that the two most recent changes here (to motorway_link and adding bicycle=no) are incorrect. The changesets involved are 13371510 and 13327657. 13371510 seems to be mechanically adding bicycle = no to motorway links. 13327657 seems to be part of a problematic series of edits which includes some railway deletions, which someone's already repaired as part of changeset 13402098. I mention it here because if there is a bucket-and-shovel job to be done, it's best done by someone familiar with the area Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
