Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?

2009-09-07 Thread David Earl
On 07/09/2009 14:39, Gregory Williams wrote:
> It's a .uk TLD, so I'll play safe and not derive from that then. I managed to 
> miss that legal blurb at the end of the response.

In general, any substantial collection of data in the EU is covered by 
Database Copyright, and it is automatic - there is no need to assert 
this. So it would have been an infringement of copyright even if it 
hadn't said so.

This page is helpful:
http://www.caret.cam.ac.uk/copyright/Page92.html

David


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Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?

2009-09-07 Thread Gregory Williams
It's a .uk TLD, so I'll play safe and not derive from that then. I managed to 
miss that legal blurb at the end of the response.

Gregory

> -Original Message-
> From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-
> boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of James Davis
> Sent: 7 September 2009 13:37
> To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?
> 
> Gregory Williams wrote:
> > I just happen to have looked up a whois record for a domain and it
> > helpfully has the registrant’s physical address and postcode. OSM is
> > always ticking away in the back of my mind, so I thought: I can
> > physically get to that address quite easily for mapping purposes, so
> > that postcode is helpful. I’m just wondering what the views of others
> > are on using whois records as means for getting a little geo-located
> > postcode data? The data in the record has probably been provided by
> the
> > registrant and not inadvertently derived from a copyright source in
> my view.
> 
> It may be okay with other tld's but not within .uk - from nominet's
> whois details...
> 
> "This WHOIS information is provided for free by Nominet UK the central
> registry for .uk domain names. This information and the .uk WHOIS are:
> 
> Copyright Nominet UK 1996 - 2009.
> 
> You may not access the .uk WHOIS or use any data from it except as
> permitted by the terms of use available in full at
> http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois, which includes restrictions on: (A)
> use
> of the data for advertising, or its repackaging, recompilation,
> redistribution or reuse (B) obscuring, removing or hiding any or all of
> this notice and (C) exceeding query rate or volume limits. The data is
> provided on an 'as-is' basis and may lag behind the register. Access
> may
> be withdrawn or restricted at any time."
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?

2009-09-07 Thread James Davis
Gregory Williams wrote:
> I just happen to have looked up a whois record for a domain and it
> helpfully has the registrant’s physical address and postcode. OSM is
> always ticking away in the back of my mind, so I thought: I can
> physically get to that address quite easily for mapping purposes, so
> that postcode is helpful. I’m just wondering what the views of others
> are on using whois records as means for getting a little geo-located
> postcode data? The data in the record has probably been provided by the
> registrant and not inadvertently derived from a copyright source in my view.

It may be okay with other tld's but not within .uk - from nominet's
whois details...

"This WHOIS information is provided for free by Nominet UK the central
registry for .uk domain names. This information and the .uk WHOIS are:

Copyright Nominet UK 1996 - 2009.

You may not access the .uk WHOIS or use any data from it except as
permitted by the terms of use available in full at
http://www.nominet.org.uk/whois, which includes restrictions on: (A) use
of the data for advertising, or its repackaging, recompilation,
redistribution or reuse (B) obscuring, removing or hiding any or all of
this notice and (C) exceeding query rate or volume limits. The data is
provided on an 'as-is' basis and may lag behind the register. Access may
be withdrawn or restricted at any time."

Regards,

James

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[Talk-GB] Postcodes on whois records?

2009-09-06 Thread Gregory Williams
I just happen to have looked up a whois record for a domain and it helpfully
has the registrant's physical address and postcode. OSM is always ticking
away in the back of my mind, so I thought: I can physically get to that
address quite easily for mapping purposes, so that postcode is helpful. I'm
just wondering what the views of others are on using whois records as means
for getting a little geo-located postcode data? The data in the record has
probably been provided by the registrant and not inadvertently derived from
a copyright source in my view.

 

Cheers,

 

Gregory

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