Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-04 Thread dcapillae

Hi, Russ.

Thank you for commenting.

I don't know the pages naming conventions for other types of pages, as I 
told Andrew in a previous message. In place pages (United Kingdom, 
Spain, London, Madrid, etc.) it is not recommended to use the prefix 
"WikiProject".


I collaborate on a wikiproject aimed at improving the translation of the 
wiki. In that case, I think it makes sense to use the prefix 
"WikiProject". In the case of the "WikiProject Power networks", I don't 
know.


I will rename only the pages "WikiProject United Kingdom" then. I won't 
rename the "WikiProject Power networks" pages. If the contributors of 
the "WikiProject Power networks" want to rename it, they can do it later 
if they wish.


Thanks again for commenting.

Regards,
Daniel



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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-04 Thread Russ Garrett
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 at 12:32, dcapillae  wrote:
> WikiProject Power networks/Great Britain (redirect)
> --> United Kingdom/Power networks

FWIW, I'm responsible for this page and it has "Great Britain" rather
than "United Kingdom" in the title for a valid (pedantic) reason: the
power network in Northern Ireland is different and explicitly not
covered by that page.

I think I'd be happier renaming the whole "WikiProject Power Networks"
namespace to "Power Networks" and keeping the structure within that. I
can check if this is acceptable with the infrastructure mappers I know
(I suspect it will be).

Russ


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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-04 Thread dcapillae

Hi,

I'd just rename these pages:

WikiProject United Kingdom
--> United Kingdom

WikiProject United Kingdom/Parcel Lockers
--> United Kingdom/Parcel Lockers

WikiProject United Kingdom Sustrans Artwork
--> United Kingdom/Sustrans Artwork

And in response to Andrew's request:

WikiProject Power networks/Great Britain (redirect)
--> United Kingdom/Power networks

WikiProject Power networks/United Kingdom (redirect)
--> United Kingdom/Power networks

I'll wait a couple of days in case anyone disagrees. It's really a minor 
change, it doesn't matter much. Just remove the prefix "WikiProject" 
from the pages related to the UK mapping project. That's all.


I will take the opportunity to add the category [[Category:United 
Kingdom]] to pages which are not yet categorized and are related to 
United Kingdom.


Thank you for your collaboration. Greetings from Spain.

Regards,
Daniel

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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-03 Thread dcapillae

Hi, Jez.

Thank you for commenting.

I don't know if there's a convention about this. It seems that every 
community uses one scheme or another according to their own preferences. 
Some countries use "United Kingdom Railways" and others "United 
Kingdom/Railways". I don't have preferences for one or the other.


In the pages of the US mapping project I used the scheme "United 
States/Railways", "United States/Boundaries", etc. They use two schemes, 
both with "/" and without "/". For example, there are pages like "United 
States/Projects" and others like "United States roads tagging" or 
"United States admin level". All the pages of the United States mapping 
project are in the category "Category:United States", so they are easy 
to find even if they have different names.


I would only remove the prefix "WikiProject" from the pages related to 
the UK mapping project. I usually use subpages to keep all the pages 
related to the mapping project in the same page tree. However, I 
understand that other solutions are also possible.


If your community have a preference, I'll do what you prefer.


El 3/8/19 a las 17:13, Jez Nicholson escribió:


Good timing.

I've been doing a lot of work recently to locate pages that the United 
Kingdom community are responsible for. The next step is renaming, and 
I/we would love to lose the words 'WikiProject'.


As to naming pages, I was stuck on 'United Kingdom/Railways" Vs 
"United Kingdom Railways" Vs "Railways in the United Kingdom".


Is the wiki going with "United Kingdom xyz", that is no '/' prefix and 
subject last?


- Jez

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, 13:24 Andrew Hain, <mailto:andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:


The page “WikiProject United Kingdom” had the prefix removed for a
while in the past but it was changed back. I would be happy to see
your project continue here.

The pagesWikiProject Power networks/Great BritainWikiProject Power
networks/United Kingdom

<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Power_networks/United_Kingdom>
are part of an international naming system.

--
Andrew

WikiProject Solent - OpenStreetMap Wiki
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Solent>
Description. The "Solent" area of Central Southern England isn't a
county as such, but is arguably worth having its own WikiProject
as it is one of the better mapped areas in the UK outside of the
large cities.
wiki.openstreetmap.org <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org>


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    *From:* dcapillae mailto:dcapil...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* 03 August 2019 12:44
*To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>
mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>>
*Subject:* [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix
Hi,

I am Daniel, from Spain. I would like to change the name of the wiki
pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project to remove the
"Wikiproject" prefix according to the pages name conventions [1].

The name of the pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project
would be "United Kingdom" (name of place) instead of "Wikiproject
United
Kingdom", as recommended by the wiki conventions. It is a change
that I
have already made in United States [2], Canada [3], Spain [4],
Australia
[5], New Zealand [6], South Africa [7], and all Spanish-speaking
countries [8] on the Wiki. The pages of Israel, Denmark and
Philippines
have also been renamed.

Many pages of the UK mapping project have already been renamed.
Only a
few remain. I could make the necessary changes. All pages with
"WikiProject" prefix will be redirected automatically. There will
be no
broken links in any case.  I'll make sure everything works correctly,
just like now.

Do you like the idea? There was already a discussion in the wiki
about
this subject [9].

Thank you for you attention! Greetings from Spain.

Regards,
Daniel


[1]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_organisation#Pages_naming_convention
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada
[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Spain
[5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia
[6] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_Zealand
[7] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Africa
[8]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_speaking_countries
[9]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_United_Kingdom



Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-03 Thread dcapillae

Hi, Andrew.


Thank you for commenting.

I have only renamed country pages because the pages naming coventions 
recommend not to use the prefix "WikiProject" in place pages. I haven't 
renamed other "WikiProject" because I don't know the conventions in 
other cases.


A subpage "United Kingdom/Power networks" (or "Power networks in United 
Kingdom", I have no preferences about the name) could be created and 
then move/copy the contents from those wikiproject pages to the UK 
mapping project pages, and redirect the old page to the new one if 
necessary.



El 3/8/19 a las 14:23, Andrew Hain escribió:
The page “WikiProject United Kingdom” had the prefix removed for a 
while in the past but it was changed back. I would be happy to see 
your project continue here.


The pagesWikiProject Power networks/Great BritainWikiProject Power 
networks/United Kingdom 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Power_networks/United_Kingdom> 
are part of an international naming system.


--
Andrew

WikiProject Solent - OpenStreetMap Wiki 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Solent>
Description. The "Solent" area of Central Southern England isn't a 
county as such, but is arguably worth having its own WikiProject as it 
is one of the better mapped areas in the UK outside of the large cities.

wiki.openstreetmap.org



*From:* dcapillae 
*Sent:* 03 August 2019 12:44
*To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
*Subject:* [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix
Hi,

I am Daniel, from Spain. I would like to change the name of the wiki
pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project to remove the
"Wikiproject" prefix according to the pages name conventions [1].

The name of the pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project
would be "United Kingdom" (name of place) instead of "Wikiproject United
Kingdom", as recommended by the wiki conventions. It is a change that I
have already made in United States [2], Canada [3], Spain [4], Australia
[5], New Zealand [6], South Africa [7], and all Spanish-speaking
countries [8] on the Wiki. The pages of Israel, Denmark and Philippines
have also been renamed.

Many pages of the UK mapping project have already been renamed. Only a
few remain. I could make the necessary changes. All pages with
"WikiProject" prefix will be redirected automatically. There will be no
broken links in any case.  I'll make sure everything works correctly,
just like now.

Do you like the idea? There was already a discussion in the wiki about
this subject [9].

Thank you for you attention! Greetings from Spain.

Regards,
Daniel


[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_organisation#Pages_naming_convention
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada
[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Spain
[5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia
[6] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_Zealand
[7] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Africa
[8] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_speaking_countries

[9] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_United_Kingdom


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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-03 Thread Jez Nicholson
Good timing.

I've been doing a lot of work recently to locate pages that the United
Kingdom community are responsible for. The next step is renaming, and I/we
would love to lose the words 'WikiProject'.

As to naming pages, I was stuck on 'United Kingdom/Railways" Vs "United
Kingdom Railways" Vs "Railways in the United Kingdom".

Is the wiki going with "United Kingdom xyz", that is no '/' prefix and
subject last?

- Jez

On Sat, 3 Aug 2019, 13:24 Andrew Hain,  wrote:

> The page “WikiProject United Kingdom” had the prefix removed for a while
> in the past but it was changed back. I would be happy to see your project
> continue here.
>
> The pages WikiProject Power networks/Great BritainWikiProject Power
> networks/United Kingdom
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Power_networks/United_Kingdom>
> are part of an international naming system.
>
> --
> Andrew
>
> WikiProject Solent - OpenStreetMap Wiki
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Solent>
> Description. The "Solent" area of Central Southern England isn't a county
> as such, but is arguably worth having its own WikiProject as it is one of
> the better mapped areas in the UK outside of the large cities.
> wiki.openstreetmap.org
>
> ------
> *From:* dcapillae 
> *Sent:* 03 August 2019 12:44
> *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
> *Subject:* [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix
>
> Hi,
>
> I am Daniel, from Spain. I would like to change the name of the wiki
> pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project to remove the
> "Wikiproject" prefix according to the pages name conventions [1].
>
> The name of the pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project
> would be "United Kingdom" (name of place) instead of "Wikiproject United
> Kingdom", as recommended by the wiki conventions. It is a change that I
> have already made in United States [2], Canada [3], Spain [4], Australia
> [5], New Zealand [6], South Africa [7], and all Spanish-speaking
> countries [8] on the Wiki. The pages of Israel, Denmark and Philippines
> have also been renamed.
>
> Many pages of the UK mapping project have already been renamed. Only a
> few remain. I could make the necessary changes. All pages with
> "WikiProject" prefix will be redirected automatically. There will be no
> broken links in any case.  I'll make sure everything works correctly,
> just like now.
>
> Do you like the idea? There was already a discussion in the wiki about
> this subject [9].
>
> Thank you for you attention! Greetings from Spain.
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_organisation#Pages_naming_convention
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada
> [4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Spain
> [5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia
> [6] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_Zealand
> [7] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Africa
> [8]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_speaking_countries
> [9] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_United_Kingdom
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-03 Thread Andrew Hain
The page “WikiProject United Kingdom” had the prefix removed for a while in the 
past but it was changed back. I would be happy to see your project continue 
here.

The pages WikiProject Power networks/Great BritainWikiProject Power 
networks/United 
Kingdom<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Power_networks/United_Kingdom>
 are part of an international naming system.

--
Andrew

WikiProject Solent - OpenStreetMap 
Wiki<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Solent>
Description. The "Solent" area of Central Southern England isn't a county as 
such, but is arguably worth having its own WikiProject as it is one of the 
better mapped areas in the UK outside of the large cities.
wiki.openstreetmap.org


From: dcapillae 
Sent: 03 August 2019 12:44
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org 
Subject: [Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

Hi,

I am Daniel, from Spain. I would like to change the name of the wiki
pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project to remove the
"Wikiproject" prefix according to the pages name conventions [1].

The name of the pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project
would be "United Kingdom" (name of place) instead of "Wikiproject United
Kingdom", as recommended by the wiki conventions. It is a change that I
have already made in United States [2], Canada [3], Spain [4], Australia
[5], New Zealand [6], South Africa [7], and all Spanish-speaking
countries [8] on the Wiki. The pages of Israel, Denmark and Philippines
have also been renamed.

Many pages of the UK mapping project have already been renamed. Only a
few remain. I could make the necessary changes. All pages with
"WikiProject" prefix will be redirected automatically. There will be no
broken links in any case.  I'll make sure everything works correctly,
just like now.

Do you like the idea? There was already a discussion in the wiki about
this subject [9].

Thank you for you attention! Greetings from Spain.

Regards,
Daniel


[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_organisation#Pages_naming_convention
[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada
[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Spain
[5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia
[6] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_Zealand
[7] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Africa
[8] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_speaking_countries
[9] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_United_Kingdom


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[Talk-GB] Removing "WikiProject" prefix

2019-08-03 Thread dcapillae

Hi,

I am Daniel, from Spain. I would like to change the name of the wiki 
pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project to remove the 
"Wikiproject" prefix according to the pages name conventions [1].


The name of the pages related to the United Kingdom mapping project 
would be "United Kingdom" (name of place) instead of "Wikiproject United 
Kingdom", as recommended by the wiki conventions. It is a change that I 
have already made in United States [2], Canada [3], Spain [4], Australia 
[5], New Zealand [6], South Africa [7], and all Spanish-speaking 
countries [8] on the Wiki. The pages of Israel, Denmark and Philippines 
have also been renamed.


Many pages of the UK mapping project have already been renamed. Only a 
few remain. I could make the necessary changes. All pages with 
"WikiProject" prefix will be redirected automatically. There will be no 
broken links in any case.  I'll make sure everything works correctly, 
just like now.


Do you like the idea? There was already a discussion in the wiki about 
this subject [9].


Thank you for you attention! Greetings from Spain.

Regards,
Daniel


[1] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_organisation#Pages_naming_convention

[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States
[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada
[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Spain
[5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia
[6] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/New_Zealand
[7] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/South_Africa
[8] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Spanish_speaking_countries
[9] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_United_Kingdom


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