Re: [Talk-GB] UK address tagging

2016-06-04 Thread Colin Smale
Chris, local authorities only deal with house number and street naming. The 
rest is down to Royal Mail. Should we perhaps start by asking ourselves what we 
mean by an address in the context of OSM? Is it actually a postal address? That 
is certainly what I think most people would expect.

//colin

On 4 June 2016 19:54:15 CEST, Chris Hill  wrote:
>We certainly don't need the phoney, contrived postal town. That is
>purely a Royal Mail invention that serves no useful purpose for anyone
>else. RM is just one user of addressing amongst many.
>
>Addressing is not created by Royal Mail, it is maintained by local
>authorities. We should start there.
>
>Cheers, Chris (chillly)
>
>On 4 June 2016 16:50:37 BST, Colin Smale  wrote:
>>Hi, 
>>
>>I am wondering if there is any consensus about tagging for addresses
>in
>>the UK. I couldn't find any trace of a discussion, nor anything on the
>>wiki, but I may have missed something. In particular I am wondering
>>about locality vs. post town - one of these should probably go in
>>addr:city, but which one, and how do we tag the other one? 
>>
>>The address model used by Royal Mail is rather complex when compared
>to
>>some of the straightforward systems in mainland European countries,
>>which mostly manage with {number,street,postcode,town}. In the UK we
>>need something like
>>{[buildingname,](number|name),street,[dependent-street,][locality,]post-town,postcode}
>>for a full address (actually it appears even more complex than that,
>if
>>you refer to [1]). 
>>
>>Is anyone aware of a reference for how to map address fields to OSM
>>tags? 
>>
>>--colin 
>>
>>[1]
>>http://www.upu.int/fileadmin/documentsFiles/activities/addressingUnit/gbrEn.pdf
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] UK address tagging

2016-06-04 Thread Chris Hill
We certainly don't need the phoney, contrived postal town. That is purely a 
Royal Mail invention that serves no useful purpose for anyone else. RM is just 
one user of addressing amongst many.

Addressing is not created by Royal Mail, it is maintained by local authorities. 
We should start there.

Cheers, Chris (chillly)

On 4 June 2016 16:50:37 BST, Colin Smale  wrote:
>Hi, 
>
>I am wondering if there is any consensus about tagging for addresses in
>the UK. I couldn't find any trace of a discussion, nor anything on the
>wiki, but I may have missed something. In particular I am wondering
>about locality vs. post town - one of these should probably go in
>addr:city, but which one, and how do we tag the other one? 
>
>The address model used by Royal Mail is rather complex when compared to
>some of the straightforward systems in mainland European countries,
>which mostly manage with {number,street,postcode,town}. In the UK we
>need something like
>{[buildingname,](number|name),street,[dependent-street,][locality,]post-town,postcode}
>for a full address (actually it appears even more complex than that, if
>you refer to [1]). 
>
>Is anyone aware of a reference for how to map address fields to OSM
>tags? 
>
>--colin 
>
>[1]
>http://www.upu.int/fileadmin/documentsFiles/activities/addressingUnit/gbrEn.pdf
>
>
>
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