Re: [Talk-GB] What's in a name

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Collinson
At 08:19 PM 15/09/2009, Chris Hill wrote:
I live near Hull, its proper name of course is Kingston upon Hull.  It 
has the long name on the map, but everyone knows it as Hull.  I think it 
would be better to use the shorter name and adding the long name as 
alt_name.  Any comments?

Cheers, Chris

Sounds good.  In country tags, I've also used official_name (not in map 
features).  They get at bit long too.

Mike 



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Re: [Talk-GB] What's in a name

2009-09-16 Thread WessexMario
'name' should, where available, contain the official place name.
If a common name like 'Hull' is in use, then that's what the 'alt_name' 
tag is for.
One problem in using other names would be that you wouldn't be able to 
reliably correlate different geoname resources. The mkgmap mailing list 
only today had a thread about using online geoname resources to extract 
the most appropriate place name to label map tiles, that sort of 
application wouldn't be possible if names didn't follow the official 
designation.
Another problem would be that some places have more than one alternative 
name, who would decide which one is 'the' name'? It would cause 
arguments (and edit wars?) over which 'name' should be the one to be used.
There's no ambiguity if the official place name is always used, and 
alt_name used for the alternatives.



Chris Hill wrote:
 I live near Hull, its proper name of course is Kingston upon Hull.  It 
 has the long name on the map, but everyone knows it as Hull.  I think it 
 would be better to use the shorter name and adding the long name as 
 alt_name.  Any comments?

 Cheers, Chris

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Re: [Talk-GB] What's in a name

2009-09-15 Thread Peter J Stoner
In message on 15 Sep 2009,  Chris Hill  wrote:

 I live near Hull, its proper name of course is Kingston upon Hull.  It
 has the long name on the map, but everyone knows it as Hull.  I think it
 would be better to use the shorter name and adding the long name as
 alt_name.  Any comments?


This is how the local authority has set up Hull in the National Public 
Transport Gazetteer.



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