Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Neil Matthews]

On 31/07/2017 21:18, Dave F wrote:
> Hi
>>
>> Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits
>> are in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/
>>
> Are you referring specifically to the museum wiki page? I suspect this
> has been written by someone who's understanding of a museum is of a
> single building in a large metropolis. Tags which refer to the whole
> museum (addresses etc) should be tagged onto the extreme polygon.

No tagging the entrance with the address is likely to give more precise
routing.

>> Keep the address on the building or one of its entrances.
>>
>
> What if there are multiple buildings?

Pick the one with the main entrance -- reception /  tourist information
/ ticket booth -- whatever you survey on the ground.
>> Add a relevant landuse -- if required.
> What would you suggest?

Depends on the grounds -- pedestrian, recreation ground, garden, car
park, coach park, etc.

Cheers,
Neil


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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Dave F]

Hi


Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits are 
in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/


Are you referring specifically to the museum wiki page? I suspect this 
has been written by someone who's understanding of a museum is of a 
single building in a large metropolis. Tags which refer to the whole 
museum (addresses etc) should be tagged onto the extreme polygon.



Keep the address on the building or one of its entrances.



What if there are multiple buildings?


Add a relevant landuse -- if required.




What would you suggest?

DaveF

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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Neil Matthews]

Follow the wiki and tag the building -- unless the museum exhibits are
in the grounds, e.g. https://museum.wales/stfagans/

Keep the address on the building or one of its entrances.

Add a relevant landuse -- if required.

Neil

On 31/07/2017 17:23, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Could I have your opinions please.
>
> Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner,
> separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do
> outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075
>
> In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon
> after I added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style
> to schools and hospitals.
>
> All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area
> into a car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was
> totally right in the first place.
>
> So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both
> house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?
>
> Regards,
>  Jez
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Dave F]

Hi

I would revert the boundary to tourism=museum & tag the building as 
building=museum. I would transfer the data which represents the whole 
area to the boundary, such as address & contact details, similar to 
schools and hospitals. Wheelchair tags should be on individual entities 
as access can vary widely.


I suspect this is a case of tagging incorrectly for the renderer as 
tourism=museum on the standard map doesn't have a fill colour. This is 
an omission that those in charge of the carto design are reluctant to 
amend (see pubs, hotels etc) I maintain their "lack of distinguishable 
colours" argument is weak.


An aside point: I wouldn't connect boundaries to centrelines of roads. 
If you were to add a gate to represent an entrance to the museum, it 
would also be a barrier on the Preston Drove, which, obviously, it 
isn't. It can also make it difficult to select in some editors.


DaveF



On 31/07/2017 17:23, Jez Nicholson wrote:

Hi all,

Could I have your opinions please.

Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner, 
separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do 
outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.


https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075

In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon 
after I added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style 
to schools and hospitals.


All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area 
into a car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was 
totally right in the first place.


So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both 
house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?


Regards,
 Jez


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Re: [Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Edward Catmur]

How about tourism=museum (+ possibly building=no) on the grounds? The
building itself could be tagged building=museum, without the tourism tag.

It's not a hugely used combination but Overpass throws up one in Bedford, a
few in the North Pennines, a couple in Germany.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Jez Nicholson 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Could I have your opinions please.
>
> Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner,
> separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do
> outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075
>
> In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon after I
> added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style to schools
> and hospitals.
>
> All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area into a
> car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was totally right in
> the first place.
>
> So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both
> house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?
>
> Regards,
>  Jez
>
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[Talk-GB] museum consisting of house and grounds

[Jez Nicholson]

Hi all,

Could I have your opinions please.

Preston Park, Brighton has a small house and gardens in the corner,
separate from the park. There is a walled garden, a lawn where they do
outdoor cinema screenings, a house that is a museum.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.84254/-0.15075

In 2012 it was mapped as just the building as a museum, then soon after I
added the whole containing area as a museum in a similar style to schools
and hospitals.

All was fine until a Wheelmap user just turned the containing area into a
car park (!). I went to revert it, but wasn't sure it was totally right in
the first place.

So, question is: I don't see any OSM Wiki discussion of 'museum = both
house and grounds' in a schools/hospitals fashion. How would you map it?

Regards,
 Jez
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