Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse polygons created by TimSC: delete them?

2011-06-13 Thread SteveC
I think the original email makes more sense as a discussion point if instead of 
being about deleting data it's more about getting started early on the 
problem of re-surveying data which might be removed.

Steve

stevecoast.com

On Jun 12, 2011, at 18:16, Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com wrote:

 Wow, what an incendiary email, I presume that was intentional and so as an 
 outsider I feel compelled to respond with these 3 thoughts:
 
 1) Unnecessary destruction of data seems particularly short sighted (maybe it 
 is necessary, I'm not equipped to judge to be honest).
 
 2) The points that are in the link in your email all seem perfectly 
 reasonable, which makes me wonder what your objections to them are.
 
 3) Are you carrying out some-kind of personal vendetta (or are you leading a 
 group vendetta) against this TimSC person? I only ask because that is how it 
 comes across to someone who is not at all engaged in the politics and history 
 of involvement behind the open street map project.
 
 Adam
 
 On 12 Jun 2011, at 15:44, Andrew wrote:
 
 There are many landuse polygons in the London area that were created by user 
 TimSC, who has not yet accepted the Contributor Terms. They will all be 
 purged 
 from the database when the licence changes if he continues not to do so. 
 TimSC 
 is now demanding changes to the way OSM is run with the treat of not 
 accepting 
 the CTs. (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.legal/6102) 
 I 
 believe that, whatever the merits what he wants are, his methods are 
 unacceptable and the community should reject them.
 
 I therefore propose to delete every landuse polygon that TimSC created with 
 the hope that they will eventually be replaced with polygons based on high-
 resolution imagery and ground surveys that we can use going forwards.
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse polygons created by TimSC: delete them?

2011-06-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg

I don't normally get involved in licencing stuff, but I disagree with 
unnecessary data destruction.

While I have accepted the CTs, and to be honest don't care one way or the other 
about ODBL, CC, etc I would urge most strongly that this is *not* done. Tim 
is a decent guy and has contributed enormously to OSM - contributing many of 
the scanned OOC maps for one thing. OSM should be about creating, not deleting 
data. If you have more accurate landuse data than what is already there, by all 
means contribute it. If not, leave it alone.

Nick

-Andrew andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: -
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
From: Andrew andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk
Date: 12/06/2011 03:44PM
Subject: [Talk-GB] Landuse polygons created by TimSC: delete them?

There are many landuse polygons in the London area that were created by user 
TimSC, who has not yet accepted the Contributor Terms. They will all be purged 
from the database when the licence changes if he continues not to do so. TimSC 
is now demanding changes to the way OSM is run with the treat of not accepting 
the CTs. (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.legal/6102) I 
believe that, whatever the merits what he wants are, his methods are 
unacceptable and the community should reject them.

I therefore propose to delete every landuse polygon that TimSC created with 
the hope that they will eventually be replaced with polygons based on high-
resolution imagery and ground surveys that we can use going forwards.

--
Andrew


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