Re: [Talk-GB] National Rail as a brand (was: Bulk railway station changes)
Richard Fairhurst richard at systemed.net wrote: Two particular cases I'm unsure about: 1. ScotRail is now, as well as a TOC name, the Scottish Executive-mandated brand for rail services north of the border. I'm not sure whether the double-arrow is still used in the new branding scheme. (Examples: http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/rail/role/the-brand/implementation - there don't appear to be any double-arrows in the Queen Street pic, but there may be outside, and I presume that it's still signposted from roads etc. the same way.) I checked this on my way home this evening, been meaning too for a few days now, but only just got round to it. There are still a few British Rail style Double-Arrow signs, denoting that the station is part of the national railway network. I seem to recall this is also the case at other stations with the new Scotrail – Scotland's Railways branding, and still used on road signs pointing to these stations. I'm not totally sure what is happening to the stations with the Strathcyde Passenger Transport branding, these may be gradually replaced with the Scotrail one. Just to bring things back to the original question, I think that 'brand=National Rail' is an appropriate term (even if someone claims it may not be a brand), and for example the Glasgow Subway could be marked as 'brand=SPT_Subway' or similar, and likewise for other light rail and maybe tram networks? I think that most stations wouldn't need this adding initially (i.e. no mass change) but it could be helpful for areas with another network Donald OSM: drnoble -- Donald Noble http://drnoble.co.uk - http://flickr.com/photos/drnoble ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] National Rail as a brand (was: Bulk railway station changes)
AJ Ashton wrote: So what I'm wondering is, could 'brand=National Rail' be an appropriate tag for stations that would be marked with the double arrow in signs, etc? That seems good in a tag what's on the ground fashion, and more appropriate than network=. Two particular cases I'm unsure about: 1. ScotRail is now, as well as a TOC name, the Scottish Executive-mandated brand for rail services north of the border. I'm not sure whether the double-arrow is still used in the new branding scheme. (Examples: http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/rail/role/the-brand/implementation - there don't appear to be any double-arrows in the Queen Street pic, but there may be outside, and I presume that it's still signposted from roads etc. the same way.) 2. London Overground (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes/15359.aspx). Officially part of the mainline rail network, I think, but uses the TfL roundel. I'm honestly not sure whether a map would _want_ to show LO stations with double arrows or with roundels these days. Any Scots or Londoners able to advise? cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/National-Rail-as-a-brand-was-Bulk-railway-station-changes-tp5709700p5709992.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] National Rail as a brand (was: Bulk railway station changes)
On 21/05/12 16:37, AJ Ashton wrote: In the previous thread it was mentioned that many people don't commonly refer to any part of the system as 'National Rail', but it seems that is the official name for the double-arrow brand used on signage and maps. I don't know if this was mentioned in the previous thread, but I'll just add that the London Underground does, or at least used to, refer to it as national rail. It says international rail for St Pancras etc. too. Maybe other TfL services do the same? -- Borbus. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
