Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB 



On 19/11/2020 20:57, Brian Prangle wrote:

Dump for external databases? Surely not!



FHRS?


Well that's why I've been trying to clean up FHRS tags.
The only tag that should really exist is the ID code which refers /back/ 
to the external database.




UPRN? USRN?


I'm struggling to see the benefit of these ATM, & given some of the 
comments, I'm reminded of the US Tiger dump.



Edubase?


A reference to an external database, not a dump.

DaveF

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Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Maps 

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Brian Prangle wrote:
> Dump for external databases? Surely not! FHRS? UPRN? USRN? Edubase?
> 

Haha. Yes, these tags are useless. I have accidentally added some in the past 
when working with OS OpenData and I think deleted them soon after. UPRN and 
USRN aren't going to be much more useful, fortunately I can't see many 
contributors wasting their time adding those either.

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Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Brian Prangle 
Dump for external databases? Surely not! FHRS? UPRN? USRN? Edubase?

Regards

Brian

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 19:09, Dave F via Talk-GB 
wrote:

> Thanks for that.
>
> I'm struggling to see the benefit of this in OSM, & given only one
> contributor has added them I presume I'm not alone.
> The codes appear to be another company's database reference system, of
> which OSM has its own.
> OSM should not become a dump for external databases. Anyone with valid
> reasons for not removing these tags?
>
> DaveF
>
> On 19/11/2020 16:49, Martin Wynne wrote:
> > On 19/11/2020 16:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority
> > > references?
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Sorry about poor formatting, copied from:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/documents/os-vectormap-district-product-guide.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 –
> > 09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 51 of 56
> >
> >   Feature Codes
> >
> >
> > Feature Codes represented in the vector product
> >
> > FeatureType  classification   featureCode
> > Building25014
> > Glasshouse25016
> > Road  Motorway  25710
> >   Primary Road  25723
> >   A Road  25729
> >   B Road  25743
> >   Minor Road  25750
> >   Local Street  25760
> >   Private Road Publicly Accessible  25780
> >   Pedestrianised Street  25790
> >   Motorway, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25719
> >   Primary Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25735
> >   A Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25739
> >   B Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25749
> >   Minor Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25759
> > RoadTunnel25792
> > MotorwayJunction25796
> > Roundabout  Primary Road  25703
> >   A Road  25704
> >   B Road  25705
> >   Minor Road  25706
> >   Local Street  25707
> >   Private Road Publicly Accessible  25708
> > SurfaceWater_Line25600
> > SurfaceWater_Area25609
> > TidalWater  High Water Mark  25608
> > TidalBoundary  High Water Mark Low Water Mark  25604
> >   Low Water Mark  25605
> > Foreshore25612
> > AdministrativeBoundary  National  25204
> >   Parish Or Community  25200
> >   District Or London Borough  25201
> >   County Or Region Or Island  25202
> > RailwayTrack  Multi Track  25300
> >   Single Track  25301
> >   Narrow Gauge  25302
> > RailwayTunnel25303
> > RailwayStation  Light Rapid Transit Station  25420
> >   Railway Station  25422
> >   London Underground Station  25423
> >   Railway Station And London Underground Station  25424
> > OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 –
> > 09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 52 of 56
> >   Light Rapid Transit Station And Railway Station  25425
> >   Light Rapid Transit Station And London Underground Station 25426
> > FunctionalSite  Education Facility - School  25250
> >   Police Station  25251
> >   Medical Care  25252
> >   Place Of Worship  25253
> >   Leisure Or Sports Centre  25254
> >   Air Transport  25255
> >   Education Facility - Higher  25256
> >   Water Transport  25257
> >   Road Transport  25258
> >   Road Services  25259
> > Woodland25999
> > Ornament25550
> > ElectricityTransmissionLine25102
> > NamedPlace  Populated Place  25801
> >   Landform  25802
> >   Woodland Or Forest  25803
> >   Hydrography  25804
> >   Landcover  25805
> > SpotHeight25810
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread SK53 
Hi Dave,

The wood/forest and water ones I've seen are entirely useless in OSM as the
relevant natural tags represent exactly the same information.

For some external sources imported to OSM retaining the original codes is
useful when there is not a precise 1:1 correspondence to tags, but that is
not the case here.

Not only can they be removed safely, but there may be merit in adding them
to the tags automatically deleted when something is edited (such as the
editor tag). There are one or two rareish codes in the data according to
taginfo which I dont recognise (
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=FEATCODE).

Regards,

Jerry

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 19:09, Dave F via Talk-GB 
wrote:

> Thanks for that.
>
> I'm struggling to see the benefit of this in OSM, & given only one
> contributor has added them I presume I'm not alone.
> The codes appear to be another company's database reference system, of
> which OSM has its own.
> OSM should not become a dump for external databases. Anyone with valid
> reasons for not removing these tags?
>
> DaveF
>
> On 19/11/2020 16:49, Martin Wynne wrote:
> > On 19/11/2020 16:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority
> > > references?
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Sorry about poor formatting, copied from:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/documents/os-vectormap-district-product-guide.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 –
> > 09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 51 of 56
> >
> >   Feature Codes
> >
> >
> > Feature Codes represented in the vector product
> >
> > FeatureType  classification   featureCode
> > Building25014
> > Glasshouse25016
> > Road  Motorway  25710
> >   Primary Road  25723
> >   A Road  25729
> >   B Road  25743
> >   Minor Road  25750
> >   Local Street  25760
> >   Private Road Publicly Accessible  25780
> >   Pedestrianised Street  25790
> >   Motorway, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25719
> >   Primary Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25735
> >   A Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25739
> >   B Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25749
> >   Minor Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25759
> > RoadTunnel25792
> > MotorwayJunction25796
> > Roundabout  Primary Road  25703
> >   A Road  25704
> >   B Road  25705
> >   Minor Road  25706
> >   Local Street  25707
> >   Private Road Publicly Accessible  25708
> > SurfaceWater_Line25600
> > SurfaceWater_Area25609
> > TidalWater  High Water Mark  25608
> > TidalBoundary  High Water Mark Low Water Mark  25604
> >   Low Water Mark  25605
> > Foreshore25612
> > AdministrativeBoundary  National  25204
> >   Parish Or Community  25200
> >   District Or London Borough  25201
> >   County Or Region Or Island  25202
> > RailwayTrack  Multi Track  25300
> >   Single Track  25301
> >   Narrow Gauge  25302
> > RailwayTunnel25303
> > RailwayStation  Light Rapid Transit Station  25420
> >   Railway Station  25422
> >   London Underground Station  25423
> >   Railway Station And London Underground Station  25424
> > OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 –
> > 09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 52 of 56
> >   Light Rapid Transit Station And Railway Station  25425
> >   Light Rapid Transit Station And London Underground Station 25426
> > FunctionalSite  Education Facility - School  25250
> >   Police Station  25251
> >   Medical Care  25252
> >   Place Of Worship  25253
> >   Leisure Or Sports Centre  25254
> >   Air Transport  25255
> >   Education Facility - Higher  25256
> >   Water Transport  25257
> >   Road Transport  25258
> >   Road Services  25259
> > Woodland25999
> > Ornament25550
> > ElectricityTransmissionLine25102
> > NamedPlace  Populated Place  25801
> >   Landform  25802
> >   Woodland Or Forest  25803
> >   Hydrography  25804
> >   Landcover  25805
> > SpotHeight25810
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB 

Thanks for that.

I'm struggling to see the benefit of this in OSM, & given only one 
contributor has added them I presume I'm not alone.
The codes appear to be another company's database reference system, of 
which OSM has its own.
OSM should not become a dump for external databases. Anyone with valid 
reasons for not removing these tags?


DaveF

On 19/11/2020 16:49, Martin Wynne wrote:

On 19/11/2020 16:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
>
> Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority
> references?

Hi Dave,

Sorry about poor formatting, copied from:


https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/documents/os-vectormap-district-product-guide.pdf 





OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 – 
09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 51 of 56


  Feature Codes


Feature Codes represented in the vector product

FeatureType  classification   featureCode
Building    25014
Glasshouse    25016
Road  Motorway  25710
  Primary Road  25723
  A Road  25729
  B Road  25743
  Minor Road  25750
  Local Street  25760
  Private Road Publicly Accessible  25780
  Pedestrianised Street  25790
  Motorway, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25719
  Primary Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25735
  A Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25739
  B Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25749
  Minor Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25759
RoadTunnel    25792
MotorwayJunction    25796
Roundabout  Primary Road  25703
  A Road  25704
  B Road  25705
  Minor Road  25706
  Local Street  25707
  Private Road Publicly Accessible  25708
SurfaceWater_Line    25600
SurfaceWater_Area    25609
TidalWater  High Water Mark  25608
TidalBoundary  High Water Mark Low Water Mark  25604
  Low Water Mark  25605
Foreshore    25612
AdministrativeBoundary  National  25204
  Parish Or Community  25200
  District Or London Borough  25201
  County Or Region Or Island  25202
RailwayTrack  Multi Track  25300
  Single Track  25301
  Narrow Gauge  25302
RailwayTunnel    25303
RailwayStation  Light Rapid Transit Station  25420
  Railway Station  25422
  London Underground Station  25423
  Railway Station And London Underground Station  25424
OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 – 
09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 52 of 56

  Light Rapid Transit Station And Railway Station  25425
  Light Rapid Transit Station And London Underground Station 25426
FunctionalSite  Education Facility - School  25250
  Police Station  25251
  Medical Care  25252
  Place Of Worship  25253
  Leisure Or Sports Centre  25254
  Air Transport  25255
  Education Facility - Higher  25256
  Water Transport  25257
  Road Transport  25258
  Road Services  25259
Woodland    25999
Ornament    25550
ElectricityTransmissionLine    25102
NamedPlace  Populated Place  25801
  Landform  25802
  Woodland Or Forest  25803
  Hydrography  25804
  Landcover  25805
SpotHeight    25810




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Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Martin Wynne 

On 19/11/2020 16:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
>
> Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority
> references?

Hi Dave,

Sorry about poor formatting, copied from:


https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/documents/os-vectormap-district-product-guide.pdf



OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 – 
09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 51 of 56


  Feature Codes


Feature Codes represented in the vector product

FeatureType  classification   featureCode
Building25014
Glasshouse25016
Road  Motorway  25710
  Primary Road  25723
  A Road  25729
  B Road  25743
  Minor Road  25750
  Local Street  25760
  Private Road Publicly Accessible  25780
  Pedestrianised Street  25790
  Motorway, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25719
  Primary Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25735
  A Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25739
  B Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25749
  Minor Road, Collapsed Dual Carriageway  25759
RoadTunnel25792
MotorwayJunction25796
Roundabout  Primary Road  25703
  A Road  25704
  B Road  25705
  Minor Road  25706
  Local Street  25707
  Private Road Publicly Accessible  25708
SurfaceWater_Line25600
SurfaceWater_Area25609
TidalWater  High Water Mark  25608
TidalBoundary  High Water Mark Low Water Mark  25604
  Low Water Mark  25605
Foreshore25612
AdministrativeBoundary  National  25204
  Parish Or Community  25200
  District Or London Borough  25201
  County Or Region Or Island  25202
RailwayTrack  Multi Track  25300
  Single Track  25301
  Narrow Gauge  25302
RailwayTunnel25303
RailwayStation  Light Rapid Transit Station  25420
  Railway Station  25422
  London Underground Station  25423
  Railway Station And London Underground Station  25424
OS VectorMap District technical specification feature codes  v1.8 – 
09/2016   © Crown copyright   Page 52 of 56

  Light Rapid Transit Station And Railway Station  25425
  Light Rapid Transit Station And London Underground Station  25426
FunctionalSite  Education Facility - School  25250
  Police Station  25251
  Medical Care  25252
  Place Of Worship  25253
  Leisure Or Sports Centre  25254
  Air Transport  25255
  Education Facility - Higher  25256
  Water Transport  25257
  Road Transport  25258
  Road Services  25259
Woodland25999
Ornament25550
ElectricityTransmissionLine25102
NamedPlace  Populated Place  25801
  Landform  25802
  Woodland Or Forest  25803
  Hydrography  25804
  Landcover  25805
SpotHeight25810




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Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Mark Goodge 



On 19/11/2020 16:35, George Honeywood wrote:

Hi,

I have a feeling it might be related to OS OpenData, perhaps from
importing without deleting the original tags.


Yes, if memory serves it's from the now defunct OS 50k gazetteer.

Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread George Honeywood 
Hi,

I have a feeling it might be related to OS OpenData, perhaps from importing 
without deleting the original tags.

Good luck,
George Honeywood

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020, at 4:24 PM, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> Hi
> 
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10kw
> 
> Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority 
> references? Appears to be only rivers & woods.These are the only 
> examples in the UK
> The contributor who added them hasn't responded.
> 
> DaveF
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