Re: [Talk-gb-london] Transport for London & OSM - station mapping project

2018-03-13 Thread Bjoern Hassler 
Hi Theo,

that's really excellent - very happy to hear that!

I have a few suggestions:

(1) In your edits (Weltstaat, Working for Mentz), the platforms are being
(re)named like this:
(e.g.) "Westbound to Tottenham Court Road"

However, I've named a lot of platforms like this (corresponding
example) "Holborn
- Central Line - Westbound - Platform 1", whcih is what's written on the
platform signage. Is there a reason to use this naming?

Basically, for the user, having a correspondence between the signage and
map is desirable, and I do think this is important in terms of searching
for items (and makes it more usable for visually impaired users): E.g. a
search for Holborn needs to give the users the entrances and platforms to a
station (so that they can go from the entrance to the platform), see here
http://bjohas.de/wiki/Maps/Transport_for_London/tags (and so a similar
naming scheme should be used).

Also, on a personal note, I've named a number of platforms in that way (see
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/232224387/history in the above case) and
it's a shame that this information is changed in favour of a less
informative (and IMHO less usable) name. :)

(2) Are you going to add step-free accessibility to each entrance tag? It
would be amazing if you did. As a user, it's helpful to know that a station
is accessible step-free, but it's even better to know to which entrance
this applies. For some large stations, the step-free entrance may be a way
away from other (non-step-free) entrances. (For some stats, see
http://bjohas.de/wiki/Maps/Transport_for_London/Map_Challenge_1_-_underground_entrances
.)

(3) As a general request, probably beyond scope: At the moment the tube
lines themselves are mapped, but often don't follow the tagging guidelines
(e.g. for relations), and cannot be used for routing (
http://bjohas.de/wiki/Maps/Transport_for_London). I would love for somebody
to fix this. I've done some of it myself, but it's long-winded. Maybe TfL
could encourage us to get together for a mapathon, to celebrate the station
maps, and then we fix the network too. That would mean you could actually
route from street-level at one station, through to street level at another,
would would be great.

Let me know what you think!
Bjoern


On 13 March 2018 at 09:45, Chapple Theo  wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> Further to my earlier message, I’m pleased to inform you that TfL’s
> supplier, Mentz, has added the data to OSM to map the first batch of TfL
> stations:
>
> -  North Greenwich
>
> -  Aldgate East
>
> -  Tottenham Court Road
>
> -  Canning Town
>
> -  Elephant and Castle
>
> -  Canada Water
>
> -  Farringdon
>
> -  Holborn
>
> -  Belsize Park
>
> -  Bank
>
> -  Arsenal
>
> -  Notting Hill Gate
>
> -   Euston Square
>
> -   Great Portland Street
>
> -   Hammersmith
>
> We will be adding more stations over the coming days. Please do let us
> know if you have any comments on questions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Theo
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-gb-london] Transport for London & OSM - station mapping project

2018-03-13 Thread Thomas Wood 
These are showing up quite nicely on the map. Holborn is quite impressive!
(Although appears to be rendering above the buildings on street level?)
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.51733/-0.11991

On 13 March 2018 at 10:05, Derick Rethans  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm pretty sure Kilburn station was done too!:
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56962277
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Chapple Theo wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone
> > Further to my earlier message, I'm pleased to inform you that TfL's
> supplier, Mentz, has added the data to OSM to map the first batch of TfL
> stations:
> >
> > -  North Greenwich
> >
> > -  Aldgate East
> >
> > -  Tottenham Court Road
> >
> > -  Canning Town
> >
> > -  Elephant and Castle
> >
> > -  Canada Water
> >
> > -  Farringdon
> >
> > -  Holborn
> >
> > -  Belsize Park
> >
> > -  Bank
> >
> > -  Arsenal
> >
> > -  Notting Hill Gate
> >
> > -   Euston Square
> >
> > -   Great Portland Street
> >
> > -   Hammersmith
> >
> > We will be adding more stations over the coming days. Please do let us
> know if you have any comments on questions.
> > Thanks,
> > Theo
> >
> > Theo Chapple | Digital Partnerships Manager | Digital | Technology & Data
> >
> > Transport for London | Floor 2 G, 14 Pier Walk,  North Greenwich, London
> SE10 0ES | Tel: 020 7027 2983 | Internal: 82983 | Mobile: 07789653898 |
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Re: [Talk-gb-london] Transport for London & OSM - station mapping project

2018-03-13 Thread Derick Rethans 
Hi,

I'm pretty sure Kilburn station was done too!:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56962277

cheers,
Derick

On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Chapple Theo wrote:

> Hi everyone
> Further to my earlier message, I'm pleased to inform you that TfL's supplier, 
> Mentz, has added the data to OSM to map the first batch of TfL stations:
> 
> -  North Greenwich
> 
> -  Aldgate East
> 
> -  Tottenham Court Road
> 
> -  Canning Town
> 
> -  Elephant and Castle
> 
> -  Canada Water
> 
> -  Farringdon
> 
> -  Holborn
> 
> -  Belsize Park
> 
> -  Bank
> 
> -  Arsenal
> 
> -  Notting Hill Gate
> 
> -   Euston Square
> 
> -   Great Portland Street
> 
> -   Hammersmith
> 
> We will be adding more stations over the coming days. Please do let us know 
> if you have any comments on questions.
> Thanks,
> Theo
> 
> Theo Chapple | Digital Partnerships Manager | Digital | Technology & Data
> 
> Transport for London | Floor 2 G, 14 Pier Walk,  North Greenwich, London SE10 
> 0ES | Tel: 020 7027 2983 | Internal: 82983 | Mobile: 07789653898 | E-mail: 
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> www.tfl.gov.uk
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[Talk-gb-london] Transport for London & OSM - station mapping project

2018-03-13 Thread Chapple Theo 
Hi everyone
Further to my earlier message, I'm pleased to inform you that TfL's supplier, 
Mentz, has added the data to OSM to map the first batch of TfL stations:

-  North Greenwich

-  Aldgate East

-  Tottenham Court Road

-  Canning Town

-  Elephant and Castle

-  Canada Water

-  Farringdon

-  Holborn

-  Belsize Park

-  Bank

-  Arsenal

-  Notting Hill Gate

-   Euston Square

-   Great Portland Street

-   Hammersmith

We will be adding more stations over the coming days. Please do let us know if 
you have any comments on questions.
Thanks,
Theo

Theo Chapple | Digital Partnerships Manager | Digital | Technology & Data

Transport for London | Floor 2 G, 14 Pier Walk,  North Greenwich, London SE10 
0ES | Tel: 020 7027 2983 | Internal: 82983 | Mobile: 07789653898 | E-mail: 
theochap...@tfl.gov.uk | Web: 
www.tfl.gov.uk






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