Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN import
2009/4/3 Thomas Wood : > 2009/4/3 Brian Prangle : >> Hi Thomas >> >> From our west mids meeting last night a number of requests and queries came >> up >> >> 1.Can you import Wolverhampton - the guys up there are ready to have a crack > > Ok, done. (This is complete with Bearing and CUS tagged, where appropriate) > >> 2. Coventry will not be far behind but hold off until we've checked with the >> major contributors there >> 3. We'd like to see the NaPTAN fields LocalityName and Bearing imported > > This is an NPTG field, none of the NPTG stuff has been looked at yet. > >> 4. We're not sure if stoptypes CUS, TXR STR BCQ and BCS have been imported > > CUS are in, but not tagged in data, there's no TXR or STR in the West > Mids dataset, BCQ, BCS are in, but not tagged as such since they're > essentially the same as BCT for our purposes. I've just done a (very crude, clashing) re-import of the West Bromwich data to include CUS and the Bearings. Andy assured me that only his edits were there, and that he didn't mind them getting overwritten. I'm planning an addition of Bearing and CUS data for the rest of Birmingham, I'll give more details once the software for it is written. -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN import
2009/4/3 Brian Prangle : > Hi Thomas > > From our west mids meeting last night a number of requests and queries came > up > > 1.Can you import Wolverhampton - the guys up there are ready to have a crack Ok, done. > 2. Coventry will not be far behind but hold off until we've checked with the > major contributors there > 3. We'd like to see the NaPTAN fields LocalityName and Bearing imported This is an NPTG field, none of the NPTG stuff has been looked at yet. > 4. We're not sure if stoptypes CUS, TXR STR BCQ and BCS have been imported CUS are in, but not tagged in data, there's no TXR or STR in the West Mids dataset, BCQ, BCS are in, but not tagged as such since they're essentially the same as BCT for our purposes. > 5. We're not sure if your local_ref field is working correctly > -essentially it's just repeating the naptan:Indicator field It's a filtered version of the Indicator field, where a reference can be pulled from it intelligibly. > I'll be writing a short set of guidelines and also a summary of what we've > found for the import wiki page - to be published shortly > > As a group we've decided to rely on our gps surveys of where bus stops are > and move the NaPTAN data to that location for merger with our data. The > feeling is that earlier bus stop surveys need to be repeated much more > precisely - examining some of our earlier data suggest we weren't as > accurate as we needed to be. > > Christophe seems to be making good progress with the visual verify/merge > tool. > > Peter - we're very keen to get our hands on aerial imagery - what needs to > happen to get this under way? > > Regards > > Brian > -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] OSM Birmingham & Solihull limited edition map now on sale
To celebrate the completion of base mapping for the city of Birmingham, UK we, being the local OSMers here, have had a map printed to show of our endeavours. The print run for Edition 1 was limited to just 50 and 10 have already gone to those who helped make it all happen. The rest we would like to offer for sale to cover the cost of printing the batch. The map is basically this one linked below but printed as a 300dpi raster TIF rather than the PDF, however we havent lost any definition, its a great map: http://ajr.hopto.org/osm/MappaMerciaBrumEd1.pdf (warning 4MB over a slow connection) It's printed on A0 matt poster paper to produce a map that is 841mm x 1189mm. They have then been hand folded to make a traditional folded map much like an Ordnance Survey map but without the card cover. More details here: http://blog.mappa-mercia.org/2009/03/birmingham-solihull-map-now-in-print.ht ml Each map of the 40 left is numbered starting at 11. The price will be £8 each plus P&P at cost depending upon where it's going. If you are interested please email me at my mappa-mercia email address a...@mappa-mercia.org with details of how many you would like and where they need to go, I'll then respond with the total price inc P&P and details of how to pay. Orders will be processed on a first come first served basis. Once they are all gone thats it. If it is successful we will probably do a further map next year after we complete the Black Country and Coventry. Cheers Andy For more about mappa-mercia see www.mappa-mercia.org ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Funding for aerial photography
I have created a wiki page for appeals for money for aerial photography and added a basic FAQ to it. Is still very raw but I think it is valuable to have one page to support all the funding appeals wherever they are for in the world and provide answers to the basic questions. Feel free to improve the page and add details as I have rushed it out and it certainly needs loads more work. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aerial_photography_funding_appeals I have created a link to it from the Birmingham page but links are need to Gaza, it needs categories and needs to be woven into other parts of the wiki. I will come back to it after the weekend some help from others would be great in the mean time. Regards, Peter Brian ___ Talk-transit mailing list talk-tran...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN import
Hi Thomas >From our west mids meeting last night a number of requests and queries came up 1.Can you import Wolverhampton - the guys up there are ready to have a crack 2. Coventry will not be far behind but hold off until we've checked with the major contributors there 3. We'd like to see the NaPTAN fields LocalityName and Bearing imported 4. We're not sure if stoptypes CUS, TXR STR BCQ and BCS have been imported 5. We're not sure if your local_ref field is working correctly -essentially it's just repeating the naptan:Indicator field I'll be writing a short set of guidelines and also a summary of what we've found for the import wiki page - to be published shortly As a group we've decided to rely on our gps surveys of where bus stops are and move the NaPTAN data to that location for merger with our data. The feeling is that earlier bus stop surveys need to be repeated much more precisely - examining some of our earlier data suggest we weren't as accurate as we needed to be. Christophe seems to be making good progress with the visual verify/merge tool. Peter - we're very keen to get our hands on aerial imagery - what needs to happen to get this under way? Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN merge tool
I agree that this makes sense - the only change I would want is for the green (i.e completed) status to also require the presence of shelter=yes/no i.e presence of shelter key regardless of value 2009/4/3 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) > Christoph, > > http://www.mappa-mercia.org/cgi-bin/naptanmerger.wsgi/ Looking good :-) > > A few comments on how this might work. Suggestions only for you to think > about and to elicit comments from others. > > Green would show a stop that's got merged data, i.e. it's a done deal and > no > further work is required. To flag this as green you would check for: > > highway=bus_stop > The presence of the naptan:atcoCode key > naptan:unverified=yes tag is no longer present > route_ref tag is present > > Orange would be one step down where one or more of the above are false > except for the following specific cases: > > Yellow (or some other colour) would be a NaPTAN imported node which > contains: > no highway=bus_stop tag > The presence of the naptan:atcoCode key > naptan:unverified=yes tag is still present > > Blue (or some other colour) would be a node which has highway=bus_stop but > no naptan tags indicating that its OSM suryeyed data alone. > > Red, to denote a naptan node that has no physical presence on the ground > and > no known use as a bus stop. This would be a node containing: > > no highway=bus_stop tag > naptan tags present > physically_present=no tag present > > Thoughts? > > Cheers > > Andy > > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN merge tool
Christoph, http://www.mappa-mercia.org/cgi-bin/naptanmerger.wsgi/ Looking good :-) A few comments on how this might work. Suggestions only for you to think about and to elicit comments from others. Green would show a stop that's got merged data, i.e. it's a done deal and no further work is required. To flag this as green you would check for: highway=bus_stop The presence of the naptan:atcoCode key naptan:unverified=yes tag is no longer present route_ref tag is present Orange would be one step down where one or more of the above are false except for the following specific cases: Yellow (or some other colour) would be a NaPTAN imported node which contains: no highway=bus_stop tag The presence of the naptan:atcoCode key naptan:unverified=yes tag is still present Blue (or some other colour) would be a node which has highway=bus_stop but no naptan tags indicating that its OSM suryeyed data alone. Red, to denote a naptan node that has no physical presence on the ground and no known use as a bus stop. This would be a node containing: no highway=bus_stop tag naptan tags present physically_present=no tag present Thoughts? Cheers Andy ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
