Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Map fiddling

2010-06-11 Thread Christoph Böhme
I created a list on the Mappa Mercia wiki page to log our resolutions
for the discrepancies. The link is:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/OS_Locator_Bugs

Cheers,
Christoph

"Andy Robinson \(blackadder\)"  schrieb:

> Tom Hughes has just added the ITO World Locator tiles overlay to his
> map browser, which makes it a lot easier to browse around the region
> and find the difference between OSM and the OS OpenData StreetView.
> 
> http://maps.compton.nu
> 
> Just click the overlay at the bottom of the layers panel.
> 
> Be warned though, not all difference are down to errors in OSM, but
> just difference in the way labels are done in the OS dataset. For
> instance, Birmingham and other LA's don't generally nowadays put
> apostrophes in street signs, but the OS data set often will have them
> for the same street. As always with OSM, stick to what's on the
> ground. If we record discrepancies on the Mappa-Mercia page on the
> wiki we can keep an eye out for differences that we know of and what
> a resurvey on the ground tells us. It also means we can revert easily
> if someone blindly uses the OS mapping as "fact".
> 
> You will find that the number of discrepancies in Birmingham isn't so
> great, they are infrequent and spaced about with just the odd one
> here and there in each locality. However slide yourself across the
> Black Country and it's a different story. Because a lot of mapping in
> the Black Country has been hit and miss to date there are lots of
> locations needing attention.
> 
> Happy mapping
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Andy
> 
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Map fiddling

2010-06-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Tom Hughes has just added the ITO World Locator tiles overlay to his map
browser, which makes it a lot easier to browse around the region and find
the difference between OSM and the OS OpenData StreetView.

http://maps.compton.nu

Just click the overlay at the bottom of the layers panel.

Be warned though, not all difference are down to errors in OSM, but just
difference in the way labels are done in the OS dataset. For instance,
Birmingham and other LA's don't generally nowadays put apostrophes in street
signs, but the OS data set often will have them for the same street. As
always with OSM, stick to what's on the ground. If we record discrepancies
on the Mappa-Mercia page on the wiki we can keep an eye out for differences
that we know of and what a resurvey on the ground tells us. It also means we
can revert easily if someone blindly uses the OS mapping as "fact".

You will find that the number of discrepancies in Birmingham isn't so great,
they are infrequent and spaced about with just the odd one here and there in
each locality. However slide yourself across the Black Country and it's a
different story. Because a lot of mapping in the Black Country has been hit
and miss to date there are lots of locations needing attention.

Happy mapping

Cheers

Andy


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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] SatMap tomorrow in Atherstone

2010-06-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
In case anyone was ignoring the Bedworth thread, tomorrow (Sat 12th June) a
few of us are meeting up to map in the Atherstone area. Details on the
Mappa-Mercia page on the wiki.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#SatMap


Cheers

Andy


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa-Mercia social - July 1st - Bedworth

2010-06-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I have something to attend to first thing on Saturday morning now so I've
taken area 2 (Baddesley Ensor and Grendon Common) which I'll map before
lunch and will see you in the pub.

Cheers

Andy

>-Original Message-
>From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com]
>Sent: 10 June 2010 10:14 PM
>To: 'Peter Millar'
>Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: RE: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa-Mercia social - July 1st -
>Bedworth
>
>That works for me. Say between 12:30 and 1pm for lunch?
>
>We usually go for 10am for the morning coffee. I may map before then
>perhaps
>on the western side before I get into Atherstone.
>
>Cheers
>
>Andy
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Peter Millar [mailto:peter.mil...@yahoo.com]
>>Sent: 10 June 2010 9:32 PM
>>To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>>Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
>>Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa-Mercia social - July 1st -
>>Bedworth
>>
>>We need to fix a time in the morning.
>>
>>I suggest we meet up later (?lunchtime) at the Red Lion Hotel.
>>
>>--
>>Peter Millar
>>
>>- "Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)"  wrote:
>>
>>> Cake done and up.
>>>
>>> I also added a note to discussion page for the UK Chapter page to
>>> suggest we
>>> move that meet up and meeting to September 18th. Hopefully a few more
>>> folks
>>> will put it in the diary if that date works for everyone.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> >-Original Message-
>>> >From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>>> [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com]
>>> >Sent: 10 June 2010 5:48 PM
>>> >To: 'Mary Mooney'; 'Peter Millar'
>>> >Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org;
>>> talk...@openstreetmap.org
>>> >Subject: RE: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa-Mercia social - July 1st -
>>> >Bedworth
>>> >
>>> >Excellent. Atherstone works for me. I'll do a cake later this
>>> evening.
>>> >
>>> >Andy
>>> >
>>> >>-Original Message-
>>> >>From: Mary Mooney [mailto:mooney@gmail.com]
>>> >>Sent: 10 June 2010 12:40 PM
>>> >>To: Peter Millar
>>> >>Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk-gb-
>>> >>westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org
>>> >>Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa-Mercia social - July 1st
>>> -
>>> >>Bedworth
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>The Red Lion Hotel, which is a pub, newly refurbished and has free
>>> wifi in
>>> >>the Sports Bar area.
>>> >>
>>> >>Mary
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>On 10 June 2010 12:32, Mary Mooney  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  I am up for Atherstone.  I have done a couple of "spots" but it
>>> >could
>>> >>be done properly with a few of us.
>>> >>
>>> >>  They also have a lot of pubs - not sure about wifi though.  Do you
>>> >>want me to find out?
>>> >>
>>> >>  Mary
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  On 10 June 2010 12:07, Peter Millar 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  Andy,
>>> >>
>>> >>  How about Atherstone?
>>> >>
>>> >>  There are at least 4 villages within three miles of the
>>> >town.
>>> >>
>>> >>  Trains from Birmingham via Tamworth or Nuneaton, about two
>>> >an
>>> >>hour. We could meet at the cafe in the Co-op Superstore in Station
>>> Street,
>>> >>by the railway station.
>>> >>
>>> >>  An alternative would be Rugeley to the NW of Cannock Chase.
>>> >It
>>> >>also has a few villages not too far away.
>>> >>
>>> >>  I hope a few of us can meet up.
>>> >>
>>> >>  --
>>> >>
>>> >>  Peter Millar
>>> >>
>>> >>  - "Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)"
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>  > Peter,
>>> >>  >
>>> >>  > I'm still up for mapping somewhere in the Midlands this
>>> >>Saturday.
>>> >>  > Don't mind
>>> >>  > where really but a more rural mapping experience would
>>> >make a
>>> >>nice
>>> >>  > change
>>> >>  > from Walsall! Are there some villages we could knock off?
>>> >>  >
>>> >>  > Anyone else up for Saturday?
>>> >>  >
>>> >>  > Cheers
>>> >>  >
>>> >>  > Andy
>>> >>  >
>>> >>  > >-Original Message-
>>> >>  > >From: Peter Millar [mailto:peter.mil...@yahoo.com]
>>> >>  > >Sent: 07 June 2010 3:12 PM
>>> >>  > >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>>> >>  > >Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org;
>>> >>  > talk...@openstreetmap.org
>>> >>  > >Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mappa-Mercia social -
>>> >>July 1st -
>>> >>  > >Bedworth
>>> >>  > >
>>> >>  > >
>>> >>  > >The pub and train details for Thursday 1st July are now
>>> >on
>>> >>the wiki.
>>> >>  >
>>> >>>
>>> >>  > >
>>> >>  > >Does anyone want to meet-up and do some mapping next
>>> >>Saturday (12th
>>> >>  > June)
>>> >>  > >somewhere around the Midlands?
>>> >>  > >
>>> >>  > >--
>>> >>  > >Peter Millar
>>> >>