Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mapping Wikipedia artciles

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 August 2014 17:07, Brian Prangle  wrote:

> I've spent an hour tagging ways and nodes in Solihull. I started on the main
> wikipedia page for Solihull and then followed all the relevant links. I'll
> continue for Solihull - it's probably easier to try and complete this LA
> area as there'll be fewer wikipedia articles.  Probably complete it by Xmas
> - if you want to use it as a case study Andy. It makes a welcome change from
> existing mapping projects

Brian, that's a great start, thank you.

> There were a couple of multipolygons that required tagging (BHX and NEC)

Those are interesting, I see that the relation you tagged for the
latter has the name "NEC".

There's also:

   https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/31644931#map=15/52.4538/-1.7192

which is a building, and has the name "National Exhibition Centre", in
full. How did you decide which to tag?

In discussions of automating these tags, we've looked at tagging like
objects; so whatever has "amenity=exhibition centre" or
"amenity=airport" (or whatever the applicable values are)

> Tag data for the West Mids: from ITOworld so it doesn't count nodes
>
> wikipedia 209
> wikipedia:en 3
> wikidata 20

I wonder why there are so many more Wikipedia than Wikidata?

> There's also a smattering of wikipedia  :architect   :artist   :subject

That's nice to see; again, they could use Wikidata, but that's not crucial.


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] September mapping party

2014-08-17 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Matthijs

I can't make this date - go ahead without me -  I'm effectively outof
circulation until the back end of Sept

regards

Brian


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Matthijs Melissen <
i...@matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> It turns that many of us won't be available on 4 September for the
> Coventry mapping party.
>
> Are there any objections against holding the mapping party one week
> earlier, that is on 28 August?
>
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] October social

2014-08-17 Thread Brian Prangle
I'll be there


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Andy Robinson  wrote:

> Barry Evans, who came along to the anniversary bash, has arranged for me to
> do an OSM talk + Q&A related to cycling to members of the
> http://www.beaconrcc.org.uk/ on the evening of 2nd Oct. As that night is
> also our traditional OSM social night it would be great to have as many
> OSMers along to socialise with a different group and help spread the OSM
> word. The meeting will be at their clubroom in Cofton Hackett.
>
> When: Thurs 2 Oct 2014 at 1930
> Where: Rednall Social Club (http://osm.org/go/euyXX4IG3 )
> What: suggestion- Intro to OSM organisation + OSM for cyclists + Q&A etc
>
> Although the clocks will have gone back, a visit to the area is an ideal
> opportunity to pick up more of the Longbridge developments.
>
> If you are definitely able to come please let me know so that I know what
> support I might have.
>
> Cheers
> Andy
>
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mapping Wikipedia artciles

2014-08-17 Thread Brian Prangle
I've spent an hour tagging ways and nodes in Solihull. I started on the
main wikipedia page for Solihull and then followed all the relevant links.
I'll continue for Solihull - it's probably easier to try and complete this
LA area as there'll be fewer wikipedia articles.  Probably complete it by
Xmas - if you want to use it as a case study Andy. It makes a welcome
change from existing mapping projects

There were a couple of multipolygons that required tagging (BHX and NEC)

Tag data for the West Mids: from ITOworld so it doesn't count nodes

wikipedia 209
wikipedia:en 3
wikidata 20

There's also a smattering of wikipedia  :architect   :artist   :subject

Regards

Brian


On 17 August 2014 12:57, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 17 August 2014 12:26, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> > you might link to one directly, thus:
> >
> >commons=File:St Paul Birmingham from south PP.jpg
>
> Or maybe not:
>
>http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/commons#values
>
> I've asked on the tagging list to see what suggestions other folk have:
>
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-August/018856.html
>
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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mapping Wikipedia artciles

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 17 August 2014 12:26, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> you might link to one directly, thus:
>
>commons=File:St Paul Birmingham from south PP.jpg

Or maybe not:

   http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/commons#values

I've asked on the tagging list to see what suggestions other folk have:

   https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-August/018856.html

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mapping Wikipedia artciles

2014-08-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 August 2014 15:57, Brian Prangle  wrote:

> I've probably tagged a lot with the full wikipedia URL
> which is not correct so maybe someone could do a
> mechanical edit on those.

Good idea. Who has a tool/ skills to do that?

> How about tags to Wikimedia Commons?

There's nothing on the wiki, that I can find. the Wikidata entry will
include a property for the relevant category on Wikimedia Commons,
where one exists, but should you wish to tag explicitly, I suggest:

   commons=Category:St Paul, Birmingham

Again, that uses the title from the page on Wikimedia Commons.

Where there is no category on Commons, one may be created or, of there
are only one or two images, you might link to one directly, thus:

   commons=File:St Paul Birmingham from south PP.jpg

> How do I find out if an object has a wikidata relationship?

If there's a Wikipedia article there should be a Wikidata entry,
linked in its left-hand column; if not create one (or let me know and
I will do so; volume of requests permitting).

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mapping Wikipedia artciles

2014-08-17 Thread Ian Caldwell
There is a plugin for JOSM that does Wikipedia.

Just been using it around Malvern, There is quite a lot of work to do, plus
it shows a few errors in Wikipedia.

Ian Caldwell.


Ian


On 15 August 2014 21:47, Matthijs Melissen  wrote:

> On 15 August 2014 21:11, Andy Mabbett  wrote:
> > I would like to propose a project for our group: that we make the West
> > Midlands the first county with all of its geotagged Wikipedia
> > articles, and their equivalent Wikidata entries, added to OSM.
>
> I think that's a great idea. Having wikipedia articles linked is very
> useful, in particular on mobile when touring around. And I think
> wikidata has the potential to become very important in the future too.
>
> >wikipedia en:St Paul's Church, Birmingham
>
> Do we add the equals sign after wikipedia, or do we use wikipedia:en?
>
> > You can see local, geotagged Wikipedia articles on this map:
> >
> >
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/wiwosm/osm-on-ol/kml-on-ol.php?la=en&uselang=en&lon=-1.865&lat=52.450&rang=50&map=1
>
> I don't understand that map very well. Is there a legend? Is there a
> way to see what has been done already? Especially the latter is very
> important.
>
> How do we tag things that only appear on a list, such as 'Grade I
> listed buildings in the West Midlands'?
>
> > What do you think? Any questions? Will you help?
>
> Like I said, I think it's a great idea. I added tags for a couple of
> buildings in the city centre already, and plan to help adding some
> more.
>
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