Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Marton, Shropshire
https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.62023&mlon=-3.07049#map=18/52.62023/-3.07049 Phil On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 22:51 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I've identified the postcode, SY21 8JY, and found a list of > properties > which share it: > >http://www.mycounciltax.org.uk/results?postcode=sy218jy > > It's very close to Welshpool. > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 19:48, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > I'm trying to help a US friend toocate a building called "Bray's > > Tenement", at Marton and, if possible, get a photo, for Wikipedia. > > > > Information is scant; but it's referred to here: > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bray > > > > Can anyone help? It doesn't seem like we've mapped it, yet. > > > > -- > > Andy Mabbett > > @pigsonthewing > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Marton, Shropshire
Possible at some point, a bridleway passes it. Phil On Mon, 2020-08-17 at 22:51 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I've identified the postcode, SY21 8JY, and found a list of > properties > which share it: > >http://www.mycounciltax.org.uk/results?postcode=sy218jy > > It's very close to Welshpool. > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 19:48, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > I'm trying to help a US friend toocate a building called "Bray's > > Tenement", at Marton and, if possible, get a photo, for Wikipedia. > > > > Information is scant; but it's referred to here: > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bray > > > > Can anyone help? It doesn't seem like we've mapped it, yet. > > > > -- > > Andy Mabbett > > @pigsonthewing > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fingerposts
I must admit that I have never thought of mapping one, we tend to just use them to confirm the legal status of a right of way in much the same as we map speedlimits, not the signs. Probably map them as man_made:signpost or something similar. They are a very common everyday object so would not fall into the tourism category. Phil (trigpoint) On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 16:59 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I've just come to map a fingerpost, never having had cause to add one > previously. > > To my surprise there is nothing on the wiki about how to do so, and I > can find no JSOM preset. > > What do folk suggest? > > I would like to add the inscription, for each of the three fingers, > with their comaps points, something like: > >inscription:NW=foo > > or, using degrees: > >inscription:315:=foo > ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
There was a discussion on this subject a while back on the tagging list. Phil (trigpoint) On Thursday, 20 June 2019, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi Andy > > All the original swift collectors were mapped in collaboration with TfWM. > They're tagged as per this example > > amenity=vending_machine > category=Interchange > name=The Pavillions > operator=TfWM > payment=no > postal_code=B4 7SE > public_transport_ticket=Swift Card > source=TfWM;survey > top_up=yes > vending=public_transport_tickets > > TfWM have shown no interest in maintaining this data in OpenStreetMap > despite repeated prompts from me,so as they've rolled out they haven't been > added. > > Payzones - nothing done so far. Good luck with this - don't know how you'd > tag this - perhaps you'll just have to invent something- perhaps the > talk-transit mailing list might help > > Regards > > Brian > > On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 at 17:09, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > > In our collaboration with Centro/ TfWM, have we mapped any of the > > "Swift Payzones" (in shops; and kiosks in bus stations) and on-street > > "Swift Collectors"? [1] > > > > Neither of the two closest to my home seem to be mapped, and I'm > > looking for a model of best practice - though if we could get TfWM to > > add and maintain them, so much the better. > > > > > > [1] See: https://www.networkwesmidlands.com/swift/topping-up/ > > > > > > -- > > Andy Mabbett > > @pigsonthewing > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > ___ > > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > > > -- Sent from my Sailfish device ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Collaboration with shire transport authorities
On Tue, 2019-04-23 at 11:45 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone > Mainly for west mids mappers but cross-posted to talkgb for a wider > audience. > For some time I've collaborated with TfWM who make extensive > use of OpenStreetMap. Together we've refreshed the entire NapTAN > dataset for > the West Midlands and we're engaged on an ongoing basis in solving > data quality > issues where the OSM data throws up errors with their bus routeing > software. Word spreads and at a regional meeting of shire transport > authorities there was a request > for contact with local OSM volunteers in the following areas: > > > Herefordshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire, > Stoke, Telford, Warwickshire, Worcestershire > > > If anyone wants to volunteer please get in touch with me and I can > put you in touch. It > will mainly involve dealing with errors they spot such as > missing/wrong > roadnames, missing/wrong roads. With TfWM there's been an average of > one of these week, sometimes bunched together followed by weeks with > nothing - so not a heavy workload and worth the effort to improve the > data. > > > If my experience is anything to go by, there'll be an initial > peak and then they'll realise, with a little prompting, it's easier > and quicker > to fix the errors themselves. But it's good to have an initial period > of > handholding as I think they are > respectful of causing any damage Hi Brian Please put me forward for Shropshire and Telford. Cheers Phil ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Help with Speed Camera Relation
It depends on the type which is missing from the tagging, the most common (GATSO) only work in one direction and read the rear plate. As an aside I did read today that one area is turning it front facing cameras around because they have finally realised motorcycles don't have front plates. Phil (trigpoint). On Fri Feb 24 13:16:29 2017 GMT, jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: > Thanks Brian. What do you mean by Single Direction? They don’t swivel and > I’m assuming they will target traffic going in both directions. > > Jonathan > http://bigfatfrog67.me > > From: Brian Prangle > Sent: 24 February 2017 10:40 > To: Jonathan > Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands > Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Help with Speed Camera Relation > > Looks fine to me jonathan in terms of relation structure. I can't comment on > the direction enforced. I'm assuming of course it is a single direction > enforced > Regards > Brian > > On 23 Feb 2017 10:46 p.m., wrote: > Hi, > > I’ve created a relation for a speed camera which I believe is correct but I’d > appreciate a second opinion: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7002742#map=19/52.40109/-1.93670&layers=D > > Thanks > > Jonathan > http://bigfatfrog67.me > > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > > -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] LiDAR data
On Wed Oct 14 20:20:08 2015 GMT+0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Hi all, > > Ed Loach has provided a slippy map of LiDAR data near Colchester [1]. You > can toggle on/off layers from which it becomes clear that we need 50cm or > 25cm data (Chris also confirmed this). > > This limits us quite a bit. Over at [2] you can view what is available. > Toggle the coverage slider to 'On'. > > I suggest we start with the 25cm data at Ironbridge. I visited the area > following our Telford meeting and found it challenging to map due to the > steep hills (aerial imagery is bad enough without adding in the poor > georectification issue caused by hilly landscapes). > > Do you agree? Other area suggestions welcome. > I would second Ironbridge, but may be slightly biased. There is a lot to be mapped there and as you say, its not easy from aerial imagery. I am hoping to give the river loop in Shrewsbury a try at 25cm. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] July Meeting
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 09:09 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi everyone > > This month's meeting will be on Saturday 4th July, so we can do some > serious mapping in Telford. Current suggested venue for lunch is The > Cock at Wellington. Oakengates was our original area for mapping but > 4th July is their Annual Carnival so getting a pub where we can chat > might be a bit difficult! You can still map Oakengates as it needs > some attention and then move the couple of kilometres to Wellington. > Both Oakengates and Wellington have train stations. It might be an > idea to know who's coming and what areas you intend to survey. Phil's > our man on the ground and can be reached on the day at 07983 459583 > I have the dining room at The Cock Inn, Wellington booked. Its a nice room, I call it the Hogwarts Common Room, which we use for our Shropshire Linux User Group meetings. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Facebook Page
On Sun, 2015-06-07 at 13:14 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi All > > After our discussion at the Digby Pub there's now a mappa mercia > facebook page. I'm new to this so I have no idea if I've published > it. I can't give you a web address because it needs 25 "likes" before > we get that privilege! Anyway see if you can find it ( I've had to > capitalise the name as Mappa Mercia) and see if you can add anything > - again I'm not sure if I set up the permissions correctly. Any ideas > on how to promote the page without having to pay Facebook advert > charges? > Found it, I am like number 5. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Etrex Legend hcx - still the best in price range
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 21:51 +0100, Iain Simpson wrote: > Hi everyone > My trusty Legend hcx has just stopped working - Rubber protection > band > loose and sticky (usual etrex problem) and not powering up. I'm > contacting Garmin for repair - they've been good in the past ! > > But if I need to replace it what would you recommend ? > How does the Etrex 30 perform ? I have an Etrex 20, which I have had for nearly 2 years. A great little device, would certainly recommend it. The Etrex 30 is the same, but with an barometric altimeter, not convinced by the value of this as a walker/mapper. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Summer Tour
Hi Brian I have not managed to get to the pub I mentioned in Wellington, but after some thought the area I believe really needs a mapping blitz is Oakengates, http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.69476/-2.45138 This is a town centre that has received very little attention. A quick glance in the GBG suggests the Crown Inn, which has free wifi, http://www.crown.oakengates.net/ Probably too late for this summer, but maybe one to put in for next year? It has a station and is on the Birmingham-Shrewsbury line, although it is only served by London Midland services. Phil (trigpoint) On Fri, 2014-04-04 at 11:52 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi everyone > > > Last night we agreed that we should go to Stourbridge, Coventry > (specific area to be decided by Rob/Jonathan), Redditch, Walsall and > Tamworth/Shenstone. I'll work these into a schedule later. > Nominations for pubs welcome. > If you've a burning wish for one to be in a particular month, shout > soon. > Given the 10th birthday bash we could move the August Thurs evening > meeting to 31st July > > > Regards > > > Brian > > -- > Book your diary - Aug 9th 2014 is OSM's 10th Birthday - West Midlands > event under preparation > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] New BING imagery
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 17:25 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > Thanks for letting us know. > > Based on the progress of the Coventry public realm improvements and > this cross-reference photo [1], I would date the imagery as circa 27th > March 2012. > I am in North Shropshire, it certainly looks like this area was done in summer 2012. Wem town square is now on the imagery, looks great. Can do some improvements with this. The imagery is alignment with the old imagery varies across the town slightly different, will have a bike ride around with GPS to ensure I have the correct alignment before I start nudging things. The imagery clearly changes at the Welsh border in this part of the world. Still excellent resolution but a different tint. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] operator = bcc
On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 11:03 +, Andy Mabbett wrote: > We seem to have a number of tags, in Birmingham, with a value of > "operator = bcc". Would it be possible, and sensible, to have these > changed to "operator = Birmingham City Council"? > I would think that is sensible, we should avoid such abbreviations. It is too easy to create confusion and misunderstanding. The only problem I can see is confirming that they actually are Birmingham City Council and not something else, Birmingham Cycling Club or something else. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] mapping conundrum
On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 23:36 +0100, Big Fat Frog wrote: > This is very puzzling. > > On a separate but connected note, if the Google imagery had shown a > clear entrance/drive/path or whatever, I presume that would have to be > left out of the DB due to copyright? Also, does our allowed use of Bing > imagery extend to their more up to date higher quality imagery on their > own website? And if you are prompted to walk down a certain road to survey something you would not have otherwise thought of? Phil > > Just some thought that cropped up while reading this. > > Jonathan > > On 09/10/2012 16:52, Andy Robinson wrote: > > A little mapping conundrum for you folks. > > > > This building with the ? in the centre of the map [1] appears to be a > > house, yet I can't find the access to it. > > > > BING Birdseye [2] doesn't appear to clarify matters. > > > > Google [3] suggests there might be a red car parked outside which would > > mean there should be a drive somewhere. > > > > I've cycled round and can't find an access off Rockkingham Gardens, > > Anchorage Road or Mulroy Road. Well there is a rough footpath that used > > to be a track to the old Sutton Park railway station which starts at the > > junction of Mulroy Road/and Midland Road but it's not used be vehicles > > anymore and well overgrown. It’s the one route I need to check but I'm > > sceptical because of the well manicured gardens this oddball property has. > > > > All ideas and suggestions welcome ;-) > > > > Cheers > > > > Andy > > > > [1] http://osm.org/go/euzaD8Zqa-- > > > > [2] http://binged.it/PThfeO > > > > [3] > > https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=52.568657,-1.825985&spn=0.000368,0.000817&t=h&z=21 > > > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > > > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] mapping conundrum
You can check house prices online, have any in that area changed hands for a disproportionately high price? http://www.nethouseprices.com/ Is the railway line still open to passengers, I can see that the stations have closed, but a ride in a train along there may be of interest. Phil On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 18:08 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: > Hi Andy > > > Looks like you've got yourself a problem! I agree with Matt about the > canoes. Some views from bing suggest the garden path joins up with one > at 25 or 27 Rockingham Gardens. As it unusually sits close to no > 11/15's boundary, perhaps its a granny flat for no 11/15? It seems to > have taken a chunk out of no 11's garden. Wear your high viz vest and > knock at no11/15 and ask is the best I can suggest. > > > Regards > > > Brian > > On 9 October 2012 16:52, Andy Robinson wrote: > A little mapping conundrum for you folks. > > > > This building with the ? in the centre of the map [1] appears > to be a house, yet I can't find the access to it. > > BING Birdseye [2] doesn't appear to clarify matters. > > Google [3] suggests there might be a red car parked outside > which would mean there should be a drive somewhere. > > > > I've cycled round and can't find an access off Rockkingham > Gardens, Anchorage Road or Mulroy Road. Well there is a rough > footpath that used to be a track to the old Sutton Park > railway station which starts at the junction of Mulroy > Road/and Midland Road but it's not used be vehicles anymore > and well overgrown. It’s the one route I need to check but I'm > sceptical because of the well manicured gardens this oddball > property has. > > > > All ideas and suggestions welcome ;-) > > > > Cheers > > Andy > > > > [1] http://osm.org/go/euzaD8Zqa-- > > [2] http://binged.it/PThfeO > > [3] > > https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=52.568657,-1.825985&spn=0.000368,0.000817&t=h&z=21 > > > > > > > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > > > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Personal Survey Points
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 15:50 +0100, Big Fat Frog wrote: > Thanks Gregory and Andy for your feedback. You're right, next day I got > a different result but only about 2 or 3 metres out. > > I long been convinced that the arial imagery is out and I've read as > such elsewhere but if I use an offset then my changes are at odds with > the the bulk of what others have done. > > So which is the yardstick? Imagery, accurate survey points or something > else? Also, if you beleive you have a hyper accurate surevy point, then > shouldn't that be uploaded to OSM? +1 I think they should. Am not certain if there are tags for things like benchmarks and trigpoints, but there really should be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_%28surveying%29 My first post in Talk-West-Midlands, I tend to follow the group but as I am based in deepest darkest Shropshire, the meet ups tend to be a bit far away. Phil (trig222) ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
