Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mapping of farmland

2013-11-25 Thread Webmaster
I don’t have an issue with it at all!  The original poster asked why the  
sudden interest in mapping farmland.  In which I was curious about finding  
out as well.  We have now established the reason.


I asked about the general feeling within the Irish OSM community (people  
subscribed to this list) on giving field's a name.  It does not bother me  
either way.  We are getting field boundary data and those users are  
getting experience mapping, therefore can only be a good thing.  I do  
however support the use of another tag (as suggested by Tom) to record the  
names, but that's just personal feeling on the matter, I wont be losing  
any sleep over it!





On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:52:34 -, Ken Guest kgu...@php.net wrote:

I've added one or two names to fields myself and I don't see what the  
issue

is that our chap in Killyfoyle has with field names being added.
There are those of us that add reference numbers of streetlamps and post
boxes to OSM, this isn't much different and with the general attitude of
tag everything, we'll migrate it if a more specific repository for this
info comes along this is surely not an issue.

Ken


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mapping of farmland

2013-11-25 Thread Ken Guest
Fair enough. I must've misinterpreted Does this data really belong in OSM?
 Fair enough the fields but the names?  :)

Ken


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Webmaster webmas...@killyfole.org.ukwrote:

 I don’t have an issue with it at all!  The original poster asked why the
 sudden interest in mapping farmland.  In which I was curious about finding
 out as well.  We have now established the reason.

 I asked about the general feeling within the Irish OSM community (people
 subscribed to this list) on giving field's a name.  It does not bother me
 either way.  We are getting field boundary data and those users are getting
 experience mapping, therefore can only be a good thing.  I do however
 support the use of another tag (as suggested by Tom) to record the names,
 but that's just personal feeling on the matter, I wont be losing any sleep
 over it!





 On Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:52:34 -, Ken Guest kgu...@php.net wrote:

  I've added one or two names to fields myself and I don't see what the
 issue
 is that our chap in Killyfoyle has with field names being added.
 There are those of us that add reference numbers of streetlamps and post
 boxes to OSM, this isn't much different and with the general attitude of
 tag everything, we'll migrate it if a more specific repository for this
 info comes along this is surely not an issue.

 Ken


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mapping of farmland

2013-11-25 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 25/11/2013, Webmaster webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote:
 My question is really about what should I do with this information (for
 example someone opens a Note).  I have no way of verifying if it is
 correct or totally made up.  What if the name is offensive or has an
 alternative meaning in say another language?  How do we deal with this
 information?  For example, there is currently an open note (
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?note=52257 ), I don't know what to do with
 this, and have just been ignoring it, in hope someone else picks it up.

In a case like this, ask for clarifications. If the note still doesn't
make sense after a while, it's better to close it. Notes that come
from anonymous user but need à survey are pretty useless.

 How far do we go?  Currently, I map features if more than one family in
 the area used the same name or if it has historic value.  However, if its
 only used by a few people of the same family i.e. (top field, side field,
 Marys field, Paddys field)  I do question if these belong in OSM?  I can
 see the important of say “Mill Field” if it was the site of an old mill or
 something similar.   Do you understand what Im asking?

IMHO, if a feature has a name that is only relevant to my family, it
doesn't belong in osm (which tag is used doesn't really matter). I
might map my bike shed and winter garden, but I wont tag a name.
The same way that I dont tag my favorite cafe even if that's how I
always refer to it.

What is tricky with those farm field names is that we dont know wether
they are relevant beyond the familly. Some certainly look like they
aren't, others might well be. But it's important to give the mapper
the benefit of the doubt. They know the area better; they might not
know the osm dos and dont as well.

If after checking with the contributors it appears that the names are
valid, perhaps loc_name would be a better key than name ?

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