Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request
On 20 January 2015 at 19:35, Dave Foley wrote: > I've been tagging the townlands with the brackets included, this is based > on what others have been mapping. I usually also add a placename in the > center of the townland but do not include the (ED FOOBAR) on those. > It is better not to put the brackets in name as it messes up a search for the name in nominatim. Carlow and Wexford were the first places where we started adding townlands so may not have best practice. eg "Ballynagran (ED Glenealy)" a seach for Ballynagran finds the node and not the area: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/search.php?q=Ballynagran&viewbox=-16.23%2C56.11%2C2.23%2C50.72&polygon=1 Re adding a place node as well. Nominatim will also merge the place node inside the area if both names and rank match so you dont get duplicates. To be explicit, you can also add the place node with role "label" to the area relation. eg Bolagh Upper has the node as a linked place: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/details.php?place_id=844862 And a search for Bolagh Upper will only yield one result. http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/search.php?q=Bolagh+Upper&viewbox=-16.23%2C56.11%2C2.23%2C50.72&polygon=1 D ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request
I'm easy on how the townlands should be named but really that should be under the FAQ section. I didn't put the brackets in based on townlands in Wexford or Carlow. What about townlands with the same name beside each other, such as Sheenabeg (Whaley and Robeck) - http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.8812/-6.3400 ? I presume this should have the brackets included? Dafo > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:18:27 + > From: donal.diam...@gmail.com > To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request > > On 20 January 2015 at 19:35, Dave Foley wrote: > > > I've been tagging the townlands with the brackets included, this is based > > on what others have been mapping. I usually also add a placename in the > > center of the townland but do not include the (ED FOOBAR) on those. > > > > It is better not to put the brackets in name as it messes up a search for > the name in nominatim. Carlow and Wexford were the first places where we > started adding townlands so may not have best practice. > > eg "Ballynagran (ED Glenealy)" a seach for Ballynagran finds the > node and not the area: > http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/search.php?q=Ballynagran&viewbox=-16.23%2C56.11%2C2.23%2C50.72&polygon=1 > > Re adding a place node as well. Nominatim will also merge the place node > inside the area if both names and rank match so you dont get duplicates. > To be explicit, you can also add the place node with role "label" to the > area relation. > > eg Bolagh Upper has the node as a linked place: > http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/details.php?place_id=844862 > > And a search for Bolagh Upper will only yield one result. > > http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/search.php?q=Bolagh+Upper&viewbox=-16.23%2C56.11%2C2.23%2C50.72&polygon=1 > > > D > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request
There's s a typo in OSM it should be Shee*a*nabeg http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html?zoom=16&lat=52.88088&lon=-6.34292&layers=BTTFFF Looking at townland index - both are in Ballykine Civil parish, so their names actual are name="Sheeanabeg (Whaley)"and name="Sheeanabeg (Robeck)" . That's an odd one all right. http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20%28by%20date%29/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&display=pagetitles&pageseq=845 I think Dacor did mention the FOO (ED BAR) situation in his video. Can you add the (ED) situation to wiki? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Mapping_Townlands#Frequently_asked_questions D On 21 January 2015 at 12:50, Dave Foley wrote: > I'm easy on how the townlands should be named but really that should be > under the FAQ section. I didn't put the brackets in based on townlands in > Wexford or Carlow. > What about townlands with the same name beside each other, such as > Sheenabeg (Whaley and Robeck) - > http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.8812/-6.3400 ? I presume this > should have the brackets included? > Dafo > > > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:18:27 + > > From: donal.diam...@gmail.com > > To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request > > > > On 20 January 2015 at 19:35, Dave Foley wrote: > > > > > I've been tagging the townlands with the brackets included, this is > based > > > on what others have been mapping. I usually also add a placename in the > > > center of the townland but do not include the (ED FOOBAR) on those. > > > > > > > It is better not to put the brackets in name as it messes up a search for > > the name in nominatim. Carlow and Wexford were the first places where > we > > started adding townlands so may not have best practice. > > > > eg "Ballynagran (ED Glenealy)" a seach for Ballynagran finds the > > node and not the area: > > > http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/search.php?q=Ballynagran&viewbox=-16.23%2C56.11%2C2.23%2C50.72&polygon=1 > > > > Re adding a place node as well. Nominatim will also merge the place node > > inside the area if both names and rank match so you dont get duplicates. > > To be explicit, you can also add the place node with role "label" to the > > area relation. > > > > eg Bolagh Upper has the node as a linked place: > > http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/details.php?place_id=844862 > > > > And a search for Bolagh Upper will only yield one result. > > > > > http://nominatim.openstreetmap.ie/search.php?q=Bolagh+Upper&viewbox=-16.23%2C56.11%2C2.23%2C50.72&polygon=1 > > > > > > D > > ___ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/01/15 14:08, Donal Diamond wrote: > Looking at townland index - both are in Ballykine Civil parish, so > their names actual are name="Sheeanabeg (Whaley)"and > name="Sheeanabeg (Robeck)" . That's an odd one all right. > > http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20%28by%20date%29/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&display=pagetitles&pageseq=845 I've > seen that in Clare. There's 4 "Drumellihy (X)"'s beside each other. http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-cunningham/ http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-mac-donnell/ http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-westby/ http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-westropp/ I presumed they used to be one townland and were then split donkey's years ago. Sorta like all the "X West"/"X East" townlands. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUv6jfAAoJEOrWdmeZivv28vkH/0UjOvcdifhO78oHtfRNUhYW m9X/P7OA3Un8oSTP0N7CBQIAxFNSzKu3PR1Da9bXCeiIfVTxa4ZC3lwgN4AEBJ/7 QOCfesbNautq/0g3Ggo/4AkCGF8NbhWzWjTujb6c+c/pTPy1YqvZ/+71lKlrmC8g czGafRuwh0I+ZUCHEMLU24tFrvfITWFc3hQLazBAu20OUZez5Cpy9IwqalM179M5 thG66egWVC2gZ5W1wTmCM7n9mFVlH03DcRHpLZOIMaMLCoeByesKYuOyehoDfgLs MD8rniI9Yce7Rl43shodand1zXdc4hLlMk29Aj8gIGAeDqGhHiz/C4NsC7GfwdI= =CcEu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request
There's a few in Wicklow, Aghavanagh and Bahana being 2 examples. Well spotted on the typo. I'm planning to compare the townlands with the Wikipedia list at the end so I'll hopefully find all my typos then. I did look at the videos but I don't remember everything that was mentioned and it would still be handy to be able to refer to the FAQ at times rather than trying to remember what video to look at. Just a suggestion anyway. > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:25:51 +0100 > From: r...@technomancy.org > To: talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 21/01/15 14:08, Donal Diamond wrote: > > Looking at townland index - both are in Ballykine Civil parish, so > > their names actual are name="Sheeanabeg (Whaley)"and > > name="Sheeanabeg (Robeck)" . That's an odd one all right. > > > > http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20%28by%20date%29/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&display=pagetitles&pageseq=845 > > I've > > > seen that in Clare. There's 4 "Drumellihy (X)"'s beside each other. > > http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-cunningham/ > http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-mac-donnell/ > http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-westby/ > http://www.townlands.ie/clare/drumellihy-westropp/ > > I presumed they used to be one townland and were then split donkey's > years ago. Sorta like all the "X West"/"X East" townlands. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUv6jfAAoJEOrWdmeZivv28vkH/0UjOvcdifhO78oHtfRNUhYW > m9X/P7OA3Un8oSTP0N7CBQIAxFNSzKu3PR1Da9bXCeiIfVTxa4ZC3lwgN4AEBJ/7 > QOCfesbNautq/0g3Ggo/4AkCGF8NbhWzWjTujb6c+c/pTPy1YqvZ/+71lKlrmC8g > czGafRuwh0I+ZUCHEMLU24tFrvfITWFc3hQLazBAu20OUZez5Cpy9IwqalM179M5 > thG66egWVC2gZ5W1wTmCM7n9mFVlH03DcRHpLZOIMaMLCoeByesKYuOyehoDfgLs > MD8rniI9Yce7Rl43shodand1zXdc4hLlMk29Aj8gIGAeDqGhHiz/C4NsC7GfwdI= > =CcEu > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] FW: Sheet request
On 20 January 2015 at 09:23, Dave Foley wrote: > Thanks for that Donal, I am looking for the 29-17 sheets as well if > possible. > Uploaded/ http://mapwarper.net/maps?field=title&query=IRL-GSGS-3906-29-17&show_warped=0 D ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
