Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative
Added my notes. I can see others edits too. On 03/07/2015, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, yeah, first time I've used Google doc like this so not sure. Hope my comments are a little help Killian Driscoll Banting Postdoctoral Fellow Département d'anthropologie Université de Montréal umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll www.lithicsireland.ie ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll On 2 July 2015 at 21:54, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote: I can see them. Can others I wonder? Not sure how comments work in Google docs, will soon find out I guess It's late so I only scanned your comments briefly but they're all good from what I can see Appreciate the input Killian Dave On 3 Jul 2015 02:48, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, for what its worth I've added a few comments and some general copy-editing. I hope you can see the comments on the drive doc. (I'm guessing my comments will be automatically visible to you, here's the link anyway https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing Sorry, I really don't have time right now to add much more than that (I'm finishing up a huge project and moving continent in the next few days). Please disregard any comments/edits as you see fit! Killian Driscoll Banting Postdoctoral Fellow Département d'anthropologie Université de Montréal umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll www.lithicsireland.ie ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll On 2 July 2015 at 21:07, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on June 15th with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative. There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/ I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM Ireland focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily interested in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation questions regardless, because why not. If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be considered as a response from OSM Ireland as a whole. You can find the submission document here - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit simply because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are 10-20 people editing. I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this as the process around setting up open data from a government perspective is at a crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will likely be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a lot of good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make use of down the road. The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave this run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through your comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point, anyone who wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before finally submitting it on or around the 14th July. It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to provide feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do that too. Thanks, Dave ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative
Thanks Daniel, much appreciated On 3 Jul 2015 09:36, Daniel Cussen d...@post.com wrote: Added my notes. I can see others edits too. On 03/07/2015, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, yeah, first time I've used Google doc like this so not sure. Hope my comments are a little help Killian Driscoll Banting Postdoctoral Fellow Département d'anthropologie Université de Montréal umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll www.lithicsireland.ie ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll On 2 July 2015 at 21:54, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote: I can see them. Can others I wonder? Not sure how comments work in Google docs, will soon find out I guess It's late so I only scanned your comments briefly but they're all good from what I can see Appreciate the input Killian Dave On 3 Jul 2015 02:48, Killian Driscoll killiandrisc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, for what its worth I've added a few comments and some general copy-editing. I hope you can see the comments on the drive doc. (I'm guessing my comments will be automatically visible to you, here's the link anyway https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing Sorry, I really don't have time right now to add much more than that (I'm finishing up a huge project and moving continent in the next few days). Please disregard any comments/edits as you see fit! Killian Driscoll Banting Postdoctoral Fellow Département d'anthropologie Université de Montréal umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll www.lithicsireland.ie ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll On 2 July 2015 at 21:07, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on June 15th with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative. There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/ I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM Ireland focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily interested in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation questions regardless, because why not. If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be considered as a response from OSM Ireland as a whole. You can find the submission document here - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit simply because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are 10-20 people editing. I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this as the process around setting up open data from a government perspective is at a crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will likely be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a lot of good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make use of down the road. The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave this run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through your comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point, anyone who wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before finally submitting it on or around the 14th July. It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to provide feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do that too. Thanks, Dave ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 74, Issue 2
On 02/07/2015, Colm Moore colmmoor...@hotmail.com wrote: Legally, the name is Iarnród Éireann—Irish Rail http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0031/sec0007.html#sec7 They use both names, but never the dual name. The day-to-day use tends to be Irish Rail. At the start, Irish Rail was dominant. However, they had a problem with people defacing their then IR logo to IRA: http://farm1.staticflickr.com/2/3797462_95ac494eb8.jpg So they changed to having Iarnród Éireann dominant with the IE logo. http://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2013/02/irishrail-old-2.jpg However, in promoting websales, they found that few people could spell www.iarnrodeireann.ie (possibly as few could pronounce it properly) so the website is now www.irishrail.ie Comparing Google results Irish Rail (with quotes) has 390,000 results, while Iarnród Éireann (with quotes) has 150,000. Interesting :) Thanks for this background info. Now, I'm not sure if we want to get into operator=Iarnród Éireann—Irish Rail or operator:en=Irish Rail and operator:ga=Iarnród Éireann - it would lead to too much confusion and would be maintenance intensive. On balance, I think Irish Rail is the better one to use. Clearly operator:ga and operator:en is overkill. Iarnród Éireann—Irish Rail is a bit of a mouthfull, but is the most correct value from what you are saying. For that matter, AIB Group (UK) p.l.c. is as much of a mouthfull, it's the same official name vs usual name issue. I lean in favor of using the official name on operator=*, but Irish Rail could be ok as well. The most important thing is to use the same value everywhere. If other people think we should chaneg to Iarnród Éireann—Irish Rail, I think it's ok to do it with an overpass+josm semi-automated edit. ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
