[OSM-talk-ie] Eircode Next steps?

2015-07-13 Thread Daniel Cussen
The new postcode system was launched today.

https://finder.eircode.ie

Rather than discussing the pros and cons, can we look at OSM's next steps?

Also have a look at the location finding resources added by the
interactive maps etc.
Can we use any of these to our benefit?

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eircode Next steps?

2015-07-13 Thread Rory McCann
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On 13/07/15 14:49, Colm Moore wrote:
 It would be useful if fields for post code and county could be
 added.

I've submitted a patch/pull request to add the postcode/eircode to iD.
addr:county doesn't seem to be used a lot (only ~600 according to
taginfo). We store counties as separate objects, people can use that
if they need to calculate the county for a point/address, right?

https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/2729

Rory
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[OSM-talk-ie] Consolidating address fields

2015-07-13 Thread Colm Moore
Hi,

The following tags are currently used for addresses. Even with the, eh, 
variation :) available in Irish addresses, I think there could be some 
consolidation.

Current tags in use:
name=* (building, business, etc.)
addr:name=*
addr:housename=*
addr:housename:en=*
addr:housename:ga=*
addr:housename:it=*
addr:housename:source=*
addr:housenumber=*
addr:housenumber:source=* 
addr:unit=*
addr:apartments=*
addr:flats=*
addr:floor=*
addr:terracename=*
addr:street:en=*
addr:street:ga=*
addr:hamlet=*
addr:subdistrict=*
addr:district=*
addr:place=*
addr:suburb=*
addr:townland=*
addr:postal_district=*
addr:postcode:loc8=*
addr:village=*
addr:town=*
addr:city=*
addr:city:ga=*
addr:county=*
addr:county:ga=*
addr:province=*
addr:country=*
addr:inclusion=*
addr:interpolation=*

I've partially consolidated the following:
addr:full=*

I've fully consolidated the following:
addr:door=*
addr:coounty=*
addr:terrace=*

See http://stat.latlon.org/ie/latest/tags-a.html for the stats. The site 
doesn't track 
name=*
name:en=*
addr:housenumber=*
addr:street=*

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Separately, addr:city=* has the following issue (aside from villages with six 
pubs and one shop being labelled cities. ;)

Number of entries - entry - issue

6 - Dun Laoghaire - Add fada to “Dun”

360 - Dublin 1 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
6 - Dublin 10 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
148 - Dublin 11 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
161 - Dublin 12 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
1 - Dublin 13 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
3 - Dublin 14 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
12 - Dublin 15 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
19 - Dublin 16 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
7 - Dublin 17 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
5 - Dublin 18 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
551 - Dublin 2 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
16 - Dublin 20 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
3 - Dublin 24 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
104 - Dublin 3 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
43 - Dublin 4 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
41 - Dublin 5 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
852 - Dublin 6 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
223 - Dublin 6W - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
164 - Dublin 7 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
439 - Dublin 8 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin
101 - Dublin 9 - Change to addr:postal_district=*; add addr:city=Dublin

10 - Castlerea - Check spellings
1 - Castlereagh - Check spellings
13 - Tobercurry - Check spellings
359 - Tubbercurry - Check spellings

1 - Burren, Warrenpoint - Double-barrelled name – simplify
2 - Corballis, Donabate - Double-barrelled name – simplify
1 - Cork City - Double-barrelled name – simplify
1 - Rathnure, Enniscorthy - Double-barrelled name – simplify
20 - Skibbereen, county Cork - Double-barrelled name – simplify

12 - Dublin Airport - Is this appropriate for a addr:city=*?
1 - Dublin Airport Logistics Park - Is this appropriate for a addr:city=*?
1 - Fota Wildlife Park - Is this appropriate for a addr:city=*?
1 - Lough Arrow - Is this appropriate for a addr:city=*?
5 - Sandyford Industrial Estate - Is this appropriate for a addr:city=*?
1 - Stillorgan Industrial Park - Is this appropriate for a addr:city=*?

1 - Donegal Town - Should “Town” be deleted?
10 - Leitrim Village - Should “Village” be deleted? As few will have heard of 
the village, it may be appropriate.

9 - Palmerstown - There has been a referendum on this name in Palmerstown / 
Palmerton, Dublin. Further study needed

38 - Maryboro Hill - This is a road, at best a suburb, not a city
60 - Mount Oval - This is a road, at best a suburb, not a city

4 - Ballymote - Two entries – investigate
7 - Ballymote - Two entries – investigate

1 - Boyle - Two entries – investigate
2 - Boyle - Two entries – investigate


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative

2015-07-13 Thread Dave Corley
Hi all,

So there has been a great response to this, with close to 70 suggestions
for improvements, so thank you all for giving your time to this, it is
greatly appreciated. I have opened the document now for people to add their
names under the authors field on the front page. It will stay open for a
day or so, I have to submit it on Wednesday.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks,
Dave



On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on June 15th
 with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative.

 There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both
 available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/

 I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM Ireland
 focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily interested
 in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation
 questions regardless, because why not.

 If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be considered
 as a response from OSM Ireland as a whole.

 You can find the submission document here -
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing

 I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit simply
 because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are 10-20
 people editing.

 I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this as the
 process around setting up open data from a government perspective is at a
 crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will likely
 be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a lot of
 good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make use of
 down the road.

 The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave this
 run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through your
 comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point, anyone who
 wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before finally
 submitting it on or around the 14th July.

 It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to provide
 feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do that
 too.

 Thanks,
 Dave

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[OSM-talk-ie] Openstreetmap gb/uk

2015-07-13 Thread moltonel
Hi,

RobJN asked me to forward his diary post to this list:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/RobJN/diary/35372

They are thinking of setting up an osmf UK/gb local chapter. Since we're 
setting up an Isle of Ireland one, there's some overlap for Northern Ireland 
contributors. Consider replying to his survey, whichever set of local chapters 
you feel like adhering to.


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Submission by OSM Ireland to the public consultation on Ireland's Open Data Initiative

2015-07-13 Thread Patrick Matthews
Nitpicking here, but...

Another example is the text descriptions of Electoral Districts (ED) (SI
12 and 13 of 1968) for Dublin City and County...

Shouldn't this be Electoral Divisions?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 So there has been a great response to this, with close to 70 suggestions
 for improvements, so thank you all for giving your time to this, it is
 greatly appreciated. I have opened the document now for people to add their
 names under the authors field on the front page. It will stay open for a
 day or so, I have to submit it on Wednesday.


 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing

 Thanks,
 Dave



 On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:07 AM, Dave Corley davecor...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  Recently Minister Howlin launched another public consultation on June
 15th
  with regards to the strategy around Irelands Open Data Initiative.
 
  There are 2 main documents for review under the consultation, both
  available at this link - http://www.per.gov.ie/open-data/
 
  I have started formulating a consultation submission which is OSM Ireland
  focused i.e. we are concerned about licencing, we are primarily
 interested
  in geodata etc. However I have given answers to all the consultation
  questions regardless, because why not.
 
  If nobody objects, I would like the finished submission to be considered
  as a response from OSM Ireland as a whole.
 
  You can find the submission document here -
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bR9KwaP9IgBpVm_btn8EOa0j3rIe2SPcQjosmU1ZkOo/edit?usp=sharing
 
  I have set it so anyone can comment, rather than anyone can edit simply
  because it'll become very messy and difficult to track if there are 10-20
  people editing.
 
  I hope many of you will take this opportunity to contribute to this as
 the
  process around setting up open data from a government perspective is at a
  crucial stage where the decisions made over the next few months will
 likely
  be the foundation for things to come for many years and there's a lot of
  good data sitting on govt. servers that I would hope we could make use of
  down the road.
 
  The response is due no later than July 15th so I would like to leave this
  run for the next week to 10 days, make any changes suggested through your
  comments / feedback and then share a final draft at which point, anyone
 who
  wishes to, can add their name as a contributing author, before finally
  submitting it on or around the 14th July.
 
  It should be noted that the consultation is open for anyone to provide
  feedback so if you wish to submit a response personally you can do that
  too.
 
  Thanks,
  Dave
 
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