Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Police Stations

2016-08-13 Thread Donie Kelly
When did we get the GoSafe zones? Are they up to date. What's the tag called?

Thanks
Donie

> On 12 Aug 2016, at 15:29, Colm Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I did a big tidy up of police stations (Garda, PSNI and minor forces) over 
> the last few days.
> I'm coming up with about 400 Garda stations, out of approximately 650. I'm 
> not sure how many PSNI stations there are.
> Given that the Garda have given us the GoSafe speed zones, I wonder if they 
> might do the same with stations?
> The Garda maintains pages like this: 
> http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=7808 Unfortunately, you have to 
> click on the 'Open Station X in Google Maps' link to get data like the 
> opening hours, grid location and StationID.
> I have the name of the person who maintains these pages.
> Colm
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Church of Ireland

2016-08-13 Thread Dave Corley
FYI, there is a full set of MD boundary data from OSI on data.gov.ie under
CC-BY. I'm currently working through licencing fun with the legal WG.
Basically, as it stands, we have permission from Dept. Public Exp and
Reform to use any and all data released under CC-BY on that site, however
there is a concern from the legal WG (Simon Poole) that the version of
CC-BY that is used, specifically 4.0, causes some issues with mixing data
and databases.

He is in contact with Creative Commons looking for a clarification.

Once that comes through, all data on data.gov.ie is fair game. Only thing
that will be required is attribution statements on the contributors page on
the wiki.

I'll update once i know more

Dave


On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Rory McCann  wrote:

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> On 12/08/16 16:19, Colm Moore wrote:
> > I spoke to one of their IT people and they are familiar with OSM
> > and are favourably inclined to facilitating us. They can provide us
> > with a KML of their current churches (and possibly other public
> > buildings / sites). The KML file feeds these pages:
> > http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/parish/14810 How
> > do we go about sorting an OSM licence? Who will be able to help me
> > with uploading the data? :) I'm happy to 'take charge' of things
> > after that.
>
> I'm willing to help with any OSM data import.
>
> First question is copyright. Why did they get the data? Do they own
> it? Did they copy it from an map from OS/OSi/Google Maps? Then we
> can't use it. :(
>
> If it's all OK, copyright-wise then we can look at importing it. Or
> using it as a base map to manually add it to OSM. Instead of a full
> blown import, it might be faster to use MapRoullette to help people
> manually add data. Depends on the size.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Police Stations

2016-08-13 Thread Rory McCann
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On 12/08/16 16:29, Colm Moore wrote:
> I did a big tidy up of police stations (Garda, PSNI and minor
> forces) over the last few days. I'm coming up with about 400 Garda
> stations, out of approximately 650. I'm not sure how many PSNI
> stations there are. Given that the Garda have given us the GoSafe
> speed zones, I wonder if they might do the same with stations? The
> Garda maintains pages like this:
> http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=7808 Unfortunately, you
> have to click on the 'Open Station X in Google Maps' link to get
> data like the opening hours, grid location and StationID. I have
> the name of the person who maintains these pages.

Quick gander at it, and you can download a KMZ file of all the
locations and names here (
http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/Garda_Stations.kmz ), and that if
you know the Station Ref, you can get the detail from this URL: (
http://www.garda.ie/Stations/Map.aspx?gardaKMZFilename=Garda_Stations.kmz&Mode=gardaUseDOM&Args=$REF
). So maybe we could scrap it.

Or they could give us a database.

Fingal County Council are always ahead of the game here, and have
released the data in their CoCo:
https://data.gov.ie/dataset/garda-stations

Rory
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[OSM-talk-ie] Taggging of CoI Churches / denominatim Re: Church of Ireland

2016-08-13 Thread Rory McCann
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On 12/08/16 16:19, Colm Moore wrote:
> In parallel, there is a material issue with the way that religious 
> sites are being labelled. Quite a few Christian denominations
> claim to be Catholic, but aren't Roman Catholic. 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_(term) On OSM, 
> denomination=catholic (1256 entries) seems to be used
> interchangeably with denomination=roman_catholic (440).

I came across denominatim=catholic vs denominatim=roman_catholic
before and have ignored it. "catholic" seems to be winning, both in
OSM and in common speech. I'm not that opposed to
denominatim=roman_catholic thought.

> Similarly denomination=protestant (62) is used, which may be
> unthinking.

That sounds incorrect. denominatim=anglican would be better. Perhaps
an Overpass query to find and change those objects?

> That said, smaller denominations do sometimes share buildings / 
> sites, e.g. Christ Church in Leeson Park has Methodist, Church of 
> Ireland, Romanian Orthodox and I think one other Orthodox groups. 
> Some other buildings / sites, like funeral homes and cemeteries
> carry religion=multi-denominational (2) and religion=multifaith
> (20) tags

Perhaps the semi-colon separator could be useful here?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Church of Ireland

2016-08-13 Thread Rory McCann
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On 12/08/16 16:19, Colm Moore wrote:
> I spoke to one of their IT people and they are familiar with OSM
> and are favourably inclined to facilitating us. They can provide us
> with a KML of their current churches (and possibly other public
> buildings / sites). The KML file feeds these pages: 
> http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/parish/14810 How
> do we go about sorting an OSM licence? Who will be able to help me
> with uploading the data? :) I'm happy to 'take charge' of things
> after that.

I'm willing to help with any OSM data import.

First question is copyright. Why did they get the data? Do they own
it? Did they copy it from an map from OS/OSi/Google Maps? Then we
can't use it. :(

If it's all OK, copyright-wise then we can look at importing it. Or
using it as a base map to manually add it to OSM. Instead of a full
blown import, it might be faster to use MapRoullette to help people
manually add data. Depends on the size.
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