[OSM-talk-ie] Using CC-BY datasets on data.gov.ie for OSM - Good to go :)

2016-12-06 Thread Dave Corley
Folks,

I've received clarification that while the CC-BY 4.0 license is not
suitable for merging with OSM, the granting of explicit permission to use
CC-BY 4.0 datasets by the relevant owner is allowed.

I have gotten that explicit permission for all datasets contained on
data.gov.ie (over 4,500 datasets). A PDF of the email permission will be
saved on the wiki later this evening.

Note, this ONLY covers datasets under CC-BY 4.0. There are a handful of
datasets under other licences on that site so be aware of this when
selecting a dataset.

So, whats next?

Basically, everyone is free to start trawling through that site for any
datasets that might be of use to us, however, there are some existing
guidelines and requirements if anyone is looking to do any imports [1].

With this in mind, and to ensure some kind of coordination and logical
approach (agreed tagging etc), I threw together a wiki page [2] as a
central spot to list any datasets that are potential options. I've tried to
keep it simple on that page so there should not be much of a burden on any
one person while gathering a min amount of info about each dataset. Any
dataset that looks like it might be useful to us should get put up onto
that page. I've thrown up a good few as a start to give an idea of what is
available. If anyone is interested in reviewing these, how I'm doing it is
going in alphabetical order of the publishers (link at the top of the site)
and reviewing everything under a publisher before moving on to the next
one. You can see the last one I checked (at the moment Cork City Council)
on the wiki page as its the most recent dataset listed.

When reviewing potential datasets, something to keep in mind is that while
one dataset might look midly interesting, it may contain a goldmine of
additional data as part of additional attribute info. One example of this
is where a dataset containing locations of street lamps might seem a bit
over the top to import, the raw data may also contain street names and
other valuable data so be sure to dig into the attribute data before
dismissing a potential source.

From that page, we can discuss each dataset as we work through them i.e.
some may be suitable for doing automated style imports, others may be
purely manual while others still might involve a hybrid approach e.g.
maproulette/layers etc. Once agreed, each will get its own import page, see
[3] as an example. Once completed, each one will also get listed under the
Ireland section of the contributors page [4].

As regards issues that may come up, please feed them back to the mailing
list. This includes data quality, licencing, data errors, formats, corrupt
sources etc etc. The reason I want to collect this particular information
is, after speaking with Denis Parfenov, a board member of the Open Data
Governance Board, the board is looking for OSM Ireland to come and present
to the ODGB in early 2017 on our experiences in using the data, what more
we want and anything else that may seem relevant. [5]  Once its closer to
the time I'll be putting together a presentation and looking for feedback
from this list.

Looking forward to seeing what opportunities this brings.

Thanks,
Dave

1 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
2 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Open_Data
3 - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ireland/Imports
4 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Ireland
5 -
https://data.gov.ie/content/note-open-data-governance-board-meeting-25-october-2016
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Wanted OSM shapefile of Ireland and province outlines, otherwise blank

2016-12-06 Thread Caroline Lewis
This is great - i just happened to need this right now to add to a map for 
industrial peat extraction!
thank you so much :)

> On 6 Dec 2016, at 13:06, Rory McCann  wrote:
> 
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> Hi Brian,
> 
> I have just set up a a province extract on townlands.ie
> 
> You can download the shapefiles here:
> 
>https://www.townlands.ie/static/downloads/provinces.zip
> 
> I haven't updated the download page yet.
> 
> It will be updated every day, like the rest of the townlands.ie data.
> 
> Rory
> 
> 
> On 06/12/16 12:38, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
>> The Genealogical Society of Ireland are collaborating with the
>> Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland on local greatgrandparent DNA
>> comparisions.
>> 
>> They have been using OSM with leaflet layers showing the centroids,
>> areas covered by each group of eight greatgrandparents and and
>> their individual locations beside an interactive list of
>> participants. (which my son and I did for them as they had some
>> difficulties using Google)
>> 
>> I have now been asked if I can provide them with an OSM shapefile
>> of all Ireland with provincial boundaries but no other detail. They
>> needed one for a poster for display at a conference in the Conway
>> Institute in UCD this week and settled for just an Ireland outline.
>> Because this study when complete will be published internationally
>> i would like them to be able to use OSM for all map images.
>> 
>> Please can someone either send me a file or explain to me how I can
>> create one for them.
>> 
>> Thanks ___ Talk-ie
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Schools

2016-12-06 Thread Dave Corley
Hi all,

These might fill the need

https://data.gov.ie/dataset/primary-schools
https://data.gov.ie/dataset/post-primary-schools

If there are folks here with the skills, a schools mapping task could be
coordinated through maproulette.

Dave

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Rory McCann  wrote:

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> On 06/12/16 05:44, Colm Moore wrote:
> > Someone, it might have been Rory looked at geocoding all schools,
> > but the data available was, err, of poor quality.
>
> Yep, that was me. In February this year I looked into it[1]. I tried
> to geocode the addresses. But Irish addresses are very hard to
> geocode. Especially when the address is "St. Whatever School, Sneem,
> Co. Kerry".
>
> > daft.ie have issues their (post-primary) schools report:
> > http://www.daft.ie/report/daft-schools-report-2016.pdf using data
> > from the Department of Education, so someone seems to have gone to
> > the effort of mapping them properly.
>
> The Dept of Education already has a webpage which has the location of
> schools[2]. I suspect Daft are using that. It's just that that page
> has no copyright information, which means it's "all rights reserved",
> and not usable for us in OSM. It's possible the location of the school
> is based off OSi maps or something.
>
> If someone wants to ask the Dept. Ed. to open that data, please go
> ahead! :)
>
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/rorym/diary/37887
> [2] http://www.education.ie/en/Find-a-School/
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Schools

2016-12-06 Thread Rory McCann
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On 06/12/16 05:44, Colm Moore wrote:
> Someone, it might have been Rory looked at geocoding all schools,
> but the data available was, err, of poor quality.

Yep, that was me. In February this year I looked into it[1]. I tried
to geocode the addresses. But Irish addresses are very hard to
geocode. Especially when the address is "St. Whatever School, Sneem,
Co. Kerry".

> daft.ie have issues their (post-primary) schools report:
> http://www.daft.ie/report/daft-schools-report-2016.pdf using data
> from the Department of Education, so someone seems to have gone to 
> the effort of mapping them properly.

The Dept of Education already has a webpage which has the location of
schools[2]. I suspect Daft are using that. It's just that that page
has no copyright information, which means it's "all rights reserved",
and not usable for us in OSM. It's possible the location of the school
is based off OSi maps or something.

If someone wants to ask the Dept. Ed. to open that data, please go
ahead! :)

[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/rorym/diary/37887
[2] http://www.education.ie/en/Find-a-School/
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Wanted OSM shapefile of Ireland and province outlines, otherwise blank

2016-12-06 Thread Rory McCann
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Hi Brian,

I have just set up a a province extract on townlands.ie

You can download the shapefiles here:

https://www.townlands.ie/static/downloads/provinces.zip

I haven't updated the download page yet.

It will be updated every day, like the rest of the townlands.ie data.

Rory


On 06/12/16 12:38, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
> The Genealogical Society of Ireland are collaborating with the
> Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland on local greatgrandparent DNA
> comparisions.
> 
> They have been using OSM with leaflet layers showing the centroids,
> areas covered by each group of eight greatgrandparents and and
> their individual locations beside an interactive list of
> participants. (which my son and I did for them as they had some
> difficulties using Google)
> 
> I have now been asked if I can provide them with an OSM shapefile
> of all Ireland with provincial boundaries but no other detail. They
> needed one for a poster for display at a conference in the Conway
> Institute in UCD this week and settled for just an Ireland outline.
> Because this study when complete will be published internationally
> i would like them to be able to use OSM for all map images.
> 
> Please can someone either send me a file or explain to me how I can
> create one for them.
> 
> Thanks ___ Talk-ie
> mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Wanted OSM shapefile of Ireland and province outlines, otherwise blank

2016-12-06 Thread Marc Gemis
Is https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ of any help to you ?

regards

m

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Brian Hollinshead
 wrote:
> The Genealogical Society of Ireland are collaborating with the Royal
> College of Surgeons in Ireland on local greatgrandparent DNA comparisions.
>
> They have been using OSM with leaflet layers showing the centroids, areas
> covered by each group of eight greatgrandparents and and their individual
> locations beside an interactive list of participants. (which my son and I
> did for them as they had some difficulties using Google)
>
> I have now been asked if I can provide them with an OSM shapefile of all
> Ireland with provincial boundaries but no other detail. They needed one for
> a poster for display at a conference in the Conway Institute in UCD this
> week and settled for just an Ireland outline. Because this study when
> complete will be published internationally i would like them to be able to
> use OSM for all map images.
>
> Please can someone either send me a file or explain to me how I can create
> one for them.
>
> Thanks
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[OSM-talk-ie] Wanted OSM shapefile of Ireland and province outlines, otherwise blank

2016-12-06 Thread Brian Hollinshead
The Genealogical Society of Ireland are collaborating with the Royal
College of Surgeons in Ireland on local greatgrandparent DNA comparisions.

They have been using OSM with leaflet layers showing the centroids, areas
covered by each group of eight greatgrandparents and and their individual
locations beside an interactive list of participants. (which my son and I
did for them as they had some difficulties using Google)

I have now been asked if I can provide them with an OSM shapefile of all
Ireland with provincial boundaries but no other detail. They needed one for
a poster for display at a conference in the Conway Institute in UCD this
week and settled for just an Ireland outline. Because this study when
complete will be published internationally i would like them to be able to
use OSM for all map images.

Please can someone either send me a file or explain to me how I can create
one for them.

Thanks
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