Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Church of Ireland
FYI, there is a full set of MD boundary data from OSI on data.gov.ie under CC-BY. I'm currently working through licencing fun with the legal WG. Basically, as it stands, we have permission from Dept. Public Exp and Reform to use any and all data released under CC-BY on that site, however there is a concern from the legal WG (Simon Poole) that the version of CC-BY that is used, specifically 4.0, causes some issues with mixing data and databases. He is in contact with Creative Commons looking for a clarification. Once that comes through, all data on data.gov.ie is fair game. Only thing that will be required is attribution statements on the contributors page on the wiki. I'll update once i know more Dave On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Rory McCann wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 12/08/16 16:19, Colm Moore wrote: > > I spoke to one of their IT people and they are familiar with OSM > > and are favourably inclined to facilitating us. They can provide us > > with a KML of their current churches (and possibly other public > > buildings / sites). The KML file feeds these pages: > > http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/parish/14810 How > > do we go about sorting an OSM licence? Who will be able to help me > > with uploading the data? :) I'm happy to 'take charge' of things > > after that. > > I'm willing to help with any OSM data import. > > First question is copyright. Why did they get the data? Do they own > it? Did they copy it from an map from OS/OSi/Google Maps? Then we > can't use it. :( > > If it's all OK, copyright-wise then we can look at importing it. Or > using it as a base map to manually add it to OSM. Instead of a full > blown import, it might be faster to use MapRoullette to help people > manually add data. Depends on the size. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXrxUwAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2MhoH/iAUb815t9/HSh/7+dfoJCeJ > 5rP/42Xr+NGiV3INKq2WPqxT2ivldCcaIUtiXezicIbQO1GlK0eTq48AhAUizG+K > U/SjihBtxOnQeTrzDqiyiJg9P2T/YoCTg3127zjVuImBP+XeRpNwb0Bllh48Zyg1 > 4DRuDrJXJyTcCeRL6ITNJ1xkUFtIbvG9sqSru2G0DX3vpMnhCZNQ4OO465IWBIX4 > I794/k9bReurQ8fk/7VGJKTBIc/Bw6dbKRgoRHL0+glLLmkvFwIOdcvkTGbccMM0 > MuIqrha/jf/jX5Sh4+LNc+vULFlbc8Ue4Aey+aJNWjk0DGep41ZNgyX10HvwL24= > =RbzU > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Church of Ireland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/16 16:19, Colm Moore wrote: > I spoke to one of their IT people and they are familiar with OSM > and are favourably inclined to facilitating us. They can provide us > with a KML of their current churches (and possibly other public > buildings / sites). The KML file feeds these pages: > http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/parish/14810 How > do we go about sorting an OSM licence? Who will be able to help me > with uploading the data? :) I'm happy to 'take charge' of things > after that. I'm willing to help with any OSM data import. First question is copyright. Why did they get the data? Do they own it? Did they copy it from an map from OS/OSi/Google Maps? Then we can't use it. :( If it's all OK, copyright-wise then we can look at importing it. Or using it as a base map to manually add it to OSM. Instead of a full blown import, it might be faster to use MapRoullette to help people manually add data. Depends on the size. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXrxUwAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2MhoH/iAUb815t9/HSh/7+dfoJCeJ 5rP/42Xr+NGiV3INKq2WPqxT2ivldCcaIUtiXezicIbQO1GlK0eTq48AhAUizG+K U/SjihBtxOnQeTrzDqiyiJg9P2T/YoCTg3127zjVuImBP+XeRpNwb0Bllh48Zyg1 4DRuDrJXJyTcCeRL6ITNJ1xkUFtIbvG9sqSru2G0DX3vpMnhCZNQ4OO465IWBIX4 I794/k9bReurQ8fk/7VGJKTBIc/Bw6dbKRgoRHL0+glLLmkvFwIOdcvkTGbccMM0 MuIqrha/jf/jX5Sh4+LNc+vULFlbc8Ue4Aey+aJNWjk0DGep41ZNgyX10HvwL24= =RbzU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Church of Ireland
If the KML was compiled by the use of a Google Maps layer then there is no way to sort out an OSM license, the data is polluted. Technically the Church of Ireland is of the Catholic Church, just not the Church of Rome. I believe the term used in the Apostles' Creed is "Holy Catholic Church", but from reading OSM Wiki Church of Ireland should be tagged denomination=anglican. Do they have the data in any other way, which isnt polluted by GM? Id certain help out for County Fermanagh and neighbouring counties, if you can get a data source which is compatible with OSM. KDDA On Friday, 12 August 2016 15:19:17 BST Colm Moore wrote: > Hi, > I took the long way around to get to the supermarket and found myself > outside Church of Ireland House in Rathmines. I spoke to one of their IT > people and they are familiar with OSM and are favourably inclined to > facilitating us. They can provide us with a KML of their current churches > (and possibly other public buildings / sites). The KML file feeds these > pages: http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/parish/14810 How do > we go about sorting an OSM licence? > Who will be able to help me with uploading the data? :) I'm happy to 'take > charge' of things after that. - > In parallel, there is a material issue with the way that religious sites are > being labelled. Quite a few Christian denominations claim to be Catholic, > but aren't Roman Catholic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_(term) On > OSM, denomination=catholic (1256 entries) seems to be used interchangeably > with denomination=roman_catholic (440). Similarly denomination=protestant > (62) is used, which may be unthinking. That said, smaller denominations do > sometimes share buildings / sites, e.g. Christ Church in Leeson Park has > Methodist, Church of Ireland, Romanian Orthodox and I think one other > Orthodox groups. Some other buildings / sites, like funeral homes and > cemeteries carry religion=multi-denominational (2) and religion=multifaith > (20) tags Colm > > > --- Never doubt that a small group of > thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only > thing that ever has. Margaret Mead > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
[OSM-talk-ie] Church of Ireland
Hi, I took the long way around to get to the supermarket and found myself outside Church of Ireland House in Rathmines. I spoke to one of their IT people and they are familiar with OSM and are favourably inclined to facilitating us. They can provide us with a KML of their current churches (and possibly other public buildings / sites). The KML file feeds these pages: http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/parish/14810 How do we go about sorting an OSM licence? Who will be able to help me with uploading the data? :) I'm happy to 'take charge' of things after that. - In parallel, there is a material issue with the way that religious sites are being labelled. Quite a few Christian denominations claim to be Catholic, but aren't Roman Catholic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_(term) On OSM, denomination=catholic (1256 entries) seems to be used interchangeably with denomination=roman_catholic (440). Similarly denomination=protestant (62) is used, which may be unthinking. That said, smaller denominations do sometimes share buildings / sites, e.g. Christ Church in Leeson Park has Methodist, Church of Ireland, Romanian Orthodox and I think one other Orthodox groups. Some other buildings / sites, like funeral homes and cemeteries carry religion=multi-denominational (2) and religion=multifaith (20) tags Colm --- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
