Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda > wrote: > > Tagging a slum on OSM will likely do nothing to change the situation on > the > > ground, but it makes one wonder exactly what sort of tool the map is ... > > OpenStreetMaps are and can be used for not only during navigation. Tagging > slums thus increases the potentiality of maps being used for other purposes. > > >> >> OSM needs to depict ground realities. >> > > If the objection is regarding the use of the word 'slum', then we can probably think of a better word. But i do feel that such unauthorized housing land has its place on a map as it is distinctly different from a normal residential locality with reference to amenities, hygiene, security, wealth and a lot more factors. All the data that is currently on OSM (and any map in general) can be used for a whole range of uses, from good to bad, depending on who is using it, and the Indian govt has raised its voice enough over google earth regarding this. If such data can empower property developers against the community (i would think that property developers already have such data at their fingertips), i'm also sure that they can empower a whole group of people to work for the betterment of society. Slum's after all are a reality in our cities, and i dont see any harm in recognizing that. -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:07 PM, H.S.Rai wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda > wrote: > > Tagging a slum on OSM will likely do nothing to change the situation on > the > > ground, but it makes one wonder exactly what sort of tool the map is ... > OpenStreetMaps are and can be used for not only during navigation. Tagging slums thus increases the potentiality of maps being used for other purposes. > > OSM needs to depict ground realities. > > -- > H.S.Rai > > ___ > Talk-in mailing list > Talk-in@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in > -- Sajjad Anwar | http://geohackers.in | Blog: http://sajjad.in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > Tagging a slum on OSM will likely do nothing to change the situation on the > ground, but it makes one wonder exactly what sort of tool the map is ... OSM needs to depict ground realities. -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:32 PM, PlaneMad wrote: > Shouldn't we have a landuse=slum tag for these areas? I would have thought > that it would have surfaced after the Kibera mapping For some reason, this makes me a little uncomfortable. We learnt via the Freemap project that slum rehabilitation is the tool of the property developer against the city corporation. Since corporations allow construction of new buildings on previously unavailable land provided the construction is for the purpose of rehabilitating a slum, property developers have an incentive to encourage the creation of new slums (in marshland in Mumbai) and get them recognised as such -- and in a few years, acquire rights to this new slum land. Tagging a slum on OSM will likely do nothing to change the situation on the ground, but it makes one wonder exactly what sort of tool the map is, and who holds it. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping
Shouldn't we have a landuse=slum tag for these areas? I would have thought that it would have surfaced after the Kibera mapping -- http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping
We don't have permission to legally use Google Earth imagery in that way ... unfortunately == Mikel Maron == +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron http://mapkibera.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Haiti From: Kiran Jonnalagadda To: talk-in@openstreetmap.org Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 9:59:36 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: Looks like some folks are simply going into Google Maps to trace their slum boundaries http://blog.sdinet.co.za/?p=78 GPS Babel will convert from KML to GPX, so one could trace in Google Earth and then re-trace in JOSM. *bling!* *lightbulb* Hmm...___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: > Looks like some folks are simply going into Google Maps to trace their slum > boundaries http://blog.sdinet.co.za/?p=78 > GPS Babel will convert from KML to GPX, so one could trace in Google Earth and then re-trace in JOSM. *bling!* *lightbulb* Hmm... ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
