Re: [OSM-talk] End of road for JOSM on OS X for ppc
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Actually I'd be willing to bet that compiling OpenJDK 6 on OSX PPC against X11.app is a relatively trivial matter if you apply the patches from FreeBSD, but probably nobody has tried that yet, and even if they did OSX users feel icky when they have to run anything under X11.app. Again, http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] End of road for JOSM on OS X for ppc
Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: On 11/09/2010, at 12.38, Alex S. wrote: Not an official port, no, but there's this: http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ I checked that out when I discovered that JOSM had become Java 6SE only, unfortunately Soylatte is only for the intel platform. There's a build of OpenJDK 7 Beta 1 for 10.5-ppc on that list... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] End of road for JOSM on OS X for ppc
Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: Yesterday I tried to upgrade JOSM on my trusty old Apple Powerbook G4. However, JOSM now needs Java 6SE, which is _not_ supported on OSX version 10.5 (Leopard). If you own a Mac with an Intel CPU, you can upgrade to OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard), but that is not an option for machines using the PPC architecture. Not an official port, no, but there's this: http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning
Tom Hughes wrote: On 20/08/10 18:00, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: what kind of upgrades are beeing performed ? We're installing extra memory - doubling what is there now. And that takes 90 minutes? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-transit] totally abandoned rails
Paul Johnson wrote: If it's no longer part of the ground truth, why try to map it? OSM is in the now, after all. Thus all the historic, old_name, end date, etc. tags... ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] totally abandoned rails
Michał Borsuk wrote: What needs to be done: * blocking new posts here, and leaving an automatic reply with the link to the forum (can be done in the mailing list list administration page, but must be done by the admin) Why? Mailing lists work extremely well (except for digests) gatewayed to news servers (I ought to know, I'm reading this mailing list via a news server), and there is at least one fully-threaded web forum software that also works quite well gatewaying to news servers. That way, everyone can have their favorite slice of the cake and eat it, too. ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [OSM-talk] renaming rendering layers
Elena of Valhalla wrote: What about descriptive names like General, Driving or Default for mapnik and Full-featured, Developement or just Alternative for osmarender? How about the original intent - updates at most once a week (aka Mapnik) and updates as often as we feel like it (Osmarender)? ;) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] State abbreviations
Toby Murray wrote: Well I started downloading data from the XAPI... Turns out Alaska doesn't seem to have a boundary relation! Or am I missing something? Alaska's border is also the US border, which *is* there... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
Lester Caine wrote: petrol stations and other 'franchise' type operations will have the same more complex relations ... BUT for example, I have a 'fast fuel' fuel card which can be used at any Texaco garage, but the operator of those garages may not be Texaco, so should I be adding a 'fastfuel'=yes tag or brand=Texaco to identify this ... Just another piece of the branding jigsaw. It gets even worse - the name on the sign might be 'Big Corner Texaco' but it's also 'Texaco #123456', etc. (All that stuff, including operator, is posted on a window next to the main door, at least all the fuel stations I've been to) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Soviet military topographic maps
Maxim Dubinin wrote: Everyone spied on everyone and I guess continue to do so. A group of Russians were just arrested in Seattle on that very charge... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering street names across several ways
andrzej zaborowski wrote: I think the rules for joining segments by osm2pgsql should be something like: * name='s are equal, * highway/railway/waterway/aeroway class is equal (however I wouldn't mind osm2pgsql joining a 3-segment way where the middle segment is shared with a tramway) * only two such ways meet at the common node -- not a Y type of junction where all three ways have identical names classes. * (possibly) not divided by a crossing with a higher class way, * (possibly) not meeting at a narrow angle * oneway='s are equal (or inverse, in case the ways have opposite directions), * unless it's a zoom level where the oneway arrows are invisible. How about http://osm.org/go/WIdREBKcE-- ? Note, the N/S road is split in two parts at this intersection, as it is oneway=yes on both sides in opposite directions. Since the street is so short, it loses both name labels just two zooms out. Of course, rendering the mini-roundabout at lower zooms doesn't help. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fedora packages for GPX video tool
Paul wrote: Does anyone have an idea where I start to download some of these reqs eg PyCairo http://cairographics.org/pycairo/ and pymedia? http://pymedia.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Removing ways in Potlatch
John F. Eldredge wrote: How can I remove this short and no-longer-existing street using Potlatch? Some would like to see it kept and marked historical, but deleting ways in Potlatch is easy: select the way, then select an end node and delete until all way nodes are gone (shared nodes in crossing ways will remain). Then click away and the way is deleted. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available
Richard Welty wrote: On 5/24/10 12:52 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote: yes. there's little hope for useful defaults, the defaults vary too much from place to place. From country to country perhaps, and maybe state to state - but not within states. in actuality, i think it varies quite a lot, but so far values have only been entered on the OSM_tags_for_routing page for NY, Oregon, and Wisconsin, so it's hard to say definitively. In Washington, default maxspeed by way type varies from town to town. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new logo
Frederik Ramm wrote: I think my grief with the suggestion is that not only does it not tell the OSM story but IMHO tells a wrong story. I think if it were like one of those 70s logos, just OSM written in a funny font, I'd probably still find it extremely bland but at least it would not suggest that we're just another POI collection project, or just another Wikimapia or so. How about replacing the flag with a pencil drawing a line across the map bit? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new logo
Richard Fairhurst wrote: I'm a magazine editor. Part of my job is assessing the work our designers come up with, [..] Not everyone is a stereotypical hacker. I am a garment decorator, sign maker and also do something similar to book cover design. But yours is the wrong simple logo. It's a good logo, but it's not a good logo for OSM. I'm sure you could design a great logo for OSM - it's just this one isn't it. I completely agree with this statement. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(Trolley)
John F. Eldredge wrote: English has a proverbial expression, going to hell in a handbasket, meaning that things are going wrong at a rapid pace. Since it's been brought up, how about a tag/sub-tag for handbaskets? It would be just as nice to know if the local bodega/mini-mart/c-store have them before leaving the house. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)
Adrien Pavie wrote: Kev js1982 wrote : With regards to the fee how would you tag the majority of uk supermarkets where the trolleys accept both £1 and €1 coins? This seams to be pretty standard on all trolleys introduced since approx 1998. I think there's a way to set a default value when the tag is not precised, the standard is 1€ or 1£ (I don't in America), and when the value is different we precise it. There is no standard in the USA. Most food stores have free carts, where some multi-store malls have pay carts of varying fee. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Trolley)
Adrien Pavie wrote: The tag is for know if a shop has trolleys. All the details are in the wiki. Thanks in advance for comments. Why would shops have light-rail trains? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions
Alex Mauer wrote: On 04/08/2010 10:32 PM, Val Kartchner wrote: 6) Should the direction prefix even be part of the street name since it (mostly) isn't on the sign? That’s not true in all areas. I’m in Wisconsin, and in most cities I’ve been to, if the street has a direction prefix it’s on the sign (abbreviated of course). That's done in WA state, too. There's even more on signs in certain cities around here - in small letters across the bottom, they often say 'Historic: old street name' with date of change... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New car dealer uses OSM in TV spot
I am watching a re-run tv show, and mere minutes ago saw an ad for a local new car dealership - they are touting their location in this one, and used imagery from OSM mapnik in their spot. They made a few minor graphical tweaks, but otherwise left the imagery exactly as rendered. They usually post their spots to youtube, but this one isn't up yet. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Portland, OR datasets might be available
dion_d...@comcast.net wrote: Forgive me if this has been brought up already, but Portland, OR seems to be placing some of its data into the public domain. Is the license suitable for inclusion in OSM? http://www.civicapps.org/about/data-policy Yes, as this line should attest: Data accessed through CivicApps.org do not, and should not, include controls over its end use. That said, I was under the impression that someone is either currently working on it or already has added some of that data to OSM. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering subway entrances
Lennard wrote: Erik Johansson wrote: How would one write a mapnik/osm2pgsql ruleset to render subway entrances at a certain zoom level? One would see if an icon became available on http://www.sjjb.co.uk/mapicons/SJJBMapIconsv0.03/recoloured/ and then comment on http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1130 that an icon would have become available. If an icon doesn't exist yet, one could nudge twain47 if he could make one. Having an icon from that set would help greatly. I'd suggest transport_train_station2 within a stylized tunnel, similar to the second blue/white icon on this image: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Seattle_Metro_2.jpg ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)
Valent Turkovic wrote: I like the idea of office=laywer, office=notary maybe we need this, no? In the USA, Notary is a secondary function/service (most bank branches here have notaries public on staff, for example). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] Does only_straight_on imply no_u_turn?
Randy wrote: I would not count on only_straight_on as being interpreted as no_u_turn; nor would I assume no_left_turn includes no_u_turn as a default. 90% or more of the time the implication would be there, but there are some cases where a U-turn may be permitted at a traffic light, against the designated traffic flow. Much better, and more flexible, to overtly include all restrictions. In Washington State, one can U-Turn anywhere they can do so without blocking traffic unless specifically restricted by signage or local ordinance. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] No right turn on red
Nakor wrote: Anthony wrote: Five other states, namely Alaska, Idaho, Michigan, Oregon and Washington, allow left turns on red even from a two-way street. Thanks. I had always wondered if this is allowed here in MI as only a few people do it at the one intersection like that I know near where I leave. I know that both Alaska and Washington only permit such turns to a one-way. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] remote editing with handheld
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: Does any one have experience of editing maps with hand held devices? Are there any open source projects for this? What about accuracy and usability? Yes, there are. I have a Nokia n810 and have used OSM2Go, though the internal GPS isn't very good (no external antenna). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own Year Of Edits video)
Valent Turkovic wrote: How can I get snapshots month by month for my home town from january 2006 to present day via old planet files? Is that possible? You can try this, see if it's to your liking: http://labs.geofabrik.de/history/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Patch to render names from routes and custom highway shields on a per country basis
Matt Williams wrote: If an American wants to create an American-style map with the whole world coloured their way, then that's fine. Obviously, you aren't American. There is no central authority here that decides how maps are drawn. Every map publisher has their own way of doing it. American maps have only one thing in common: they include a legend. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] lists and # of subscribers
Richard Weait wrote: I often find myself wondering how many are subscribed to the various osm lists. [..] Is this information that can be easily extracted from mailman[..]? No.. Many people (including myself) subscribe to the lists through a gateway like gmane.org, so those numbers are off. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-transit] Trolley bus overhead wires
Frankie Roberto wrote: Maybe this calls for a Trolleybus project? :-) Washington's King County Metro runs trolley buses as a major portion* of their Public Transit infrastructure within Seattle. Plus, they run dual-power buses (part of the route is run with diesel power, part with overhead electric power). (* Could be as much as a fifth of their routes) (from their website: Metro operates a fleet of about 1,300 vehicles -- including standard and articulated coaches, electric trolleys, dual-powered buses, hybrid diesel-electric buses and streetcars[..] http://transit.metrokc.gov/am/metro.html ) ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness
Russ Nelson wrote: On Apr 24, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: I'd also be very happy if JOSM flipped the tag for me when I edit a tiger object. Does anybody object to this? If not, I'll look at inserting special case code which removes tiger:reviewed when the way or any node it solely includes is edited in any way. I do. I split a tiger way when I have reviewed a section of it to indicate which part I reviewed and which part I haven't. I can however see the utility of it. Go ahead and do so, but please make it configurable, so those that want to can, but those that don't won't have to. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] Beta testers required for new Windows Mobile OSM Client
George Styles wrote: At the moment its simply freeware. I want to GPL it, but need to open a sourceforge account etc etc, and havent had time yet... GPL is a licensing scheme, and has nothing to do with sourceforge. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam] Re: Invisible coastline errors in Potlatch
Peter Miller wrote: What should one do... 1) Delete all features smaller than 10 meters 2) Keep them in a have loads of people go an investigate false problems 3) Make them bigger so the islands as accepted by the coastline checker 4) Adapt the coastline checker to that is accepts smaller islands. 5) Add a tag to tell the coastline checker to ignore this feature because it really is a small island. I vote for 4), everything else is a cop-out (1 and 3) or will waste lots of people time (2) or be confusing (5). I split the circular way into two ways (east side, west side) - no more error and it renders properly. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] size of icons
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi, where can I find the specs as to the size of icons for osm? I had it somewhere, but cannot find it now. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmarender/Symbols ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Why does OSM need timestamps in gpx trails
Tanveer Singh wrote: I use a lowrance unit, and there are no timestamps dumped in tracks. When I convert to gpx, OSM refuses to accept the tracks! Why so? For mapping we just need lat/long, timestamps are not really needed? I know using some perl I can insert bogus timestamps, but thats inefficient and requires extra work. Can I understand the logic of this decision, and the though process behind it. If I want OSM to allow gpx trails without timestamps, whom do I argue with? IIRC, the timestamp is used to indicate node order in the database. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Contraflow bus lane
Matthias Julius wrote: Tristan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the point is that it's not often (at least in the uk) that a bus lane does not also mean taxis. Since this is not the case everywhere in the world I guess having separate bus and taxi tags (or busway and taxiway) are needed. In the USA, bus-only restrictions are common, and do not include other vehicle types. There are 'HOV' restrictions that do, however, though any vehicle with more than the posted number of passengers are allowed in those lanes. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GPS routing using OpenStreetMap data?
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On Mon, October 20, 2008 10:52, Valent Turkovic wrote: Are there any applications (on linux preferably) that use OpenStreetMap maps and give standard GPS routing functions like commercial car GPS units? Navit, GPSdrive, gosmore. You can also put OSM data into just any commercial Garmin-branded GPS navigator. Roadnav has some support. RoadMap does too. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tutorials for waypoints.ph guys
Maning Sambale wrote: Can I run josm on a usb? There's no reason why not. However, you should look at this page first: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/JOSM/HOWTO/Run_from_flash_disk_with_Java ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] script to make gps traces public ?
Franc Carter wrote: does anyone know of a script that I can use to make all of my gps traces public, as I often forget to click the public checkbox I would like to see a profile setting that allows one to choose whether that box is checked by default. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Motorways and Motorway_link
Philip Homburg wrote: In .nl it is common to place warning signs for cyclists and pedestrians when a piece of road leads only to a motorway. But if you really want to, you can walk to the motorway sign. In the US, I knew of one motorway_link that had (while I was living there - it may have changed) a sign that stated 'no pedestrians allowed' just below a sign for 'bus stop'. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] traffic_calming not rendered?
Tristan Scott wrote: So my question is that... am I doing anything wrong? Or is the renderer really ignoring a highway tag on a renderable highway? name=Enfield Road highway=traffic_calming traffic_calming=bump Also, someone's changed one back to residential, leaving the traffic_calming=bump value. The road is shown in mapnik and osmarender as a residential road - no traffic_calming rendering visible. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:traffic_calming As I read it, it's not replacing the highway=* tag, but is in addition to. So: highway=residential traffic_calming=chicane A bump should be a node, IMHO. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Campus map - Who's got a good one?
Richard Weait wrote: I've also cast my vote for the best OSM campus map that I've seen so far. I'd love to hear of others. University of Washington in Seattle is coming along - all the footpaths are in place (and even named), plus campus grounds and several of the main buildings. However, the official campus maps are way beyond what we have in osm. http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.65522lon=-122.30773zoom=15 http://www.washington.edu/home/maps/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] default maxspeed (was Re: NoName)
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Re: [Talk-us] highway: tertiary?
David Carmean wrote: I'm not sure if this question is within scope of this list, but I thought it might be sufficiently country-specific: when is it appropriate to use highway: tertiary in the US? I use it like so: tertiary - through residential areas: two-lanes, maybe with street parking but often not, lanes delineated by yellow lines (in lesser populated areas, often no shoulder). Through commercial areas: storefronts usually face away from these two-lane streets - they feel like a bypass, u-turn route or only there to get to 'parking out back' lots. Often called 'back-streets' or 'minor arterials'. In my area, they are often delineated further by 'arterial route' signage. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Appalachian Trail
Adam Schreiber wrote: Is there any reason to not upload this data? This provision could be a sticking point: that you use proper citation (see metadata for details) on any materials (digital or printed) in which this information appears ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM mobile editor
Claudius Henrichs wrote: *cough* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mom *cough* *cough* non-free *cough* ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?
Chris G wrote: I'm after a GPS system which I can use to provide data for OSM maps and as a 'normal' GPS system to tell me where to go when I'm on my motorbike. Is there anything which can provide both facilities or should I give up and buy two separate devices? [..] A receiver which can link up with a PDA might make sense as I need a new PDA anyway. I use a TomTom One for routing (using their app) and logging (via Event_Logger, taking data from the raw NMEA stream). Their Rider is a bit expensive, but it's designed for motorcycle use. Anything Unix-based will enable you to capture the raw stream from the gps for OSM tracklogging before sending it to the routing app. The Nokia N810 is one such, as are the TomToms. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tag for club missing
Geoff Richards wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:43:48AM +0200, Jens Müller wrote: Iván Sánchez Ortega schrieb: Anyone up for proposing amenity=brothel? Or leisure=brothel? I used 'amenity=brothel' the one time I (knowingly) came across one in my surveying, but I decided not to bother proposing a standard for it :-) Why not? There are legal brothels in Nevada... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] poster things
Simone Cortesi wrote: is there more information available? like which company printed them? costs? forgot to ask while in Limerick... You can get similar made at nearly any print shop or sign maker - around me, they tend to run ~US$40 for something roughly that size on vinyl. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-us] Portland data
SteveC wrote: Also, any other data in the US that fits that description please let me know about and we can possibly help get it imported. The State of Washington has quite a lot of publicly available GIS data, some of which seems to have a compatible license. http://wagic.wa.gov/washdat.htm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Interstate name tag
Victor Snesarev wrote: Hi all, Just want to get people's opinion on naming Intestate Highways in the US... The Wiki says http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/United_States_roads_tagging to set name as Interstate Highway ###. In practice I mostly see I-###. Since interstates are divided into two oneway ways, I think each way should be named I-### Direction, where Direction is East, West, North, South. So, one way of the interstate would be I-40 East and the other is I-40 West. Both ways would have ref=I 40. I know some editors already use this scheme. I got the idea from a link provided by Alex Mauer. Thoughts? I do name=Interstate x Northbound and ref=Ix N. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (PSV_directions)
Alex L. Mauer wrote: (I might not know offhand what psv_directions=no is, since psv is not a common term around here.[..]) Nor, I think, would most from the US. When I first looked at the description (public service vehicle) my first thought was emergency vehicle (police, fire, ambulance). IMHO, bus or something derived from public transit (ptv?) would make more sense, both within and outside the UK. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] pronunciation tag
Karl Newman wrote: Spanish names in the US are often subject to butchered pronunciation. I had a friend from Iowa that told me about a town named Buena Vista where the locals pronounced it Byoona Vista. Argh. There's also a California county that borders Oregon called Del Norte. Locals call it Del Nort (not Del Nort-ay). There's a local town by the name of Des Moines here. The one in Iowa is pronounced d'moyn, while the local town is officially (yep, it's in the town's charter) d'moynz. (I call it desmond's out of spite) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering of tracktype
Andy Allan wrote: Meh. It's on my list of things to do, but to be honest I don't see it as very important. There's lots of things that the cycle map doesn't render at all, and for one I see distinguishing onroad/offroad cycle routes as more important than the difference between tracktypes; ditto for distinguishing bicycle=yes/no on footpaths and so on. I ride a bicycle with 'slicks' (tires with no tread) and like to avoid tracks which are not paved. Having a map with a nice visual indicator of track type would be a boon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] noname streets
SteveC wrote: I'd like to define some roads that really don't have a name so that they drop off the noname map. [..] Maybe name:__none__. Or something. Sounds good to me.. +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tagging seasonal items
Robin Paulson wrote: i'm mapping a stadium, that is multi-use - depending on the time of year, it gets used for cricket or rugby. is there any way to tag this once, and have the rendering change at the appropriate time of year, from one to the other? There is one here that switches from Football to Football. ;) (American Rules Football to Soccer, that is..) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Non-nesting administrative borders (Was: National borders in the British Islands)
Stephen Gower wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:42:22AM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'nesting' rule does not exist. We have already had enough examples of where boundaries form different 'sets' of areas so there is no way to insist that the 'admin' boundaries are mutually exclusive :( Do you have an example if such a jurisdictional anomoly? In Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloydminster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flin_Flon In the US, a fair number of cities and towns straddle county borders - here are but a few: Bothell, WA Kansas City, MO Houston, TX ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] access=license
Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: Access tags imply rights of use for (all) the tagged purpose(s) in my book, not just rights of passage through. Does everyone else use that interpretation? I do. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] access=license
Shaun McDonald wrote: The proposal is to add the new value 'license' to the 'access' key. Parking lots of this kind would then be tagged with: - amenity=parking - access=license Personally I'd prefer access=permit, though maybe that's just me trying to keep osm uk centric. Ah, we actually have permit parking here (in the US) too. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] access=license
Andrew MacKinnon wrote: Of course, we could simply use access=private for access=residents and access=employees, since these parking spaces are not generally available to the public. There are many areas in Seattle which one is not allowed to park on-street during certain hours unless you purchase an annual permit. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Huge batch of 1hz Mexico/Central America data
Beau Gunderson wrote: I've driven to Belize City from Seattle with a 1hz GPS logger and am wondering the best way to upload the data to OSM. I have a recent track from Seattle to west central Colorado and back which split (the log file) every time I rested. I was thinking of uploading one every half hour or so until completed - unless of course someone can point me to an easy automated way to tell that my previous track was successfully inserted (though half an hour /should/ be enough time). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] street directory from OSM data
Florian Lohoff wrote: How would the link from Street to ZIP Code/City Name work? From what i read there is currently no such link possible and its just a matter of what is the nearest village/city/town. The streets imported from TIGER all have (at least) a zip code and county tag associated. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Relations not always brilliant
Richard Fairhurst wrote: There are thousands of stretches of road like this across Britain, but in all cases they only have one official number (very occasional signage errors notwithstanding). In the US, there are many highways which carry more than one official ref number across long stretches. For example, US-12 shares roadway with sections of I-5, I-82 and I-182 in Washington State, but both signs are on the side of the roadway in these sections. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] how to tag travellers camps?
graham wrote: Does anyone have any ideas for tagging traveller's camps? There are quite a few round my way, long-term caravan sites with hard surfaces, AFAIK all gypsy and not open to random caravanners. landuse = travellers_camp? Or 'gypsy site'? I'm trying not to fall between lack of political correctness and something that will be misunderstood in any language but english.. Around here (USA), we call those 'membership campgrounds'. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM poll
SteveC wrote: See the poll at the bottom right hand corner, and vote OSM: http://www.directionsmag.com/ As of my vote, OSM was at 74% of respondents (196 votes thus far). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping with a data logger
John McKerrell wrote: Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, I did have a google but couldn't find anything useful, have found Event_Logger now :-D Note that if you wish to use it for tracking your own travel without others knowing that you are doing so, you should disable the default warning messages. I started writing up an installation guide: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Cohort#Installing_Event_Logger_on_TomTom_ONE_v3 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 2 divided carriage-ways meeting at traffic lights.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PPS. What's the best way to mark pedestrian overpasses/foot bridges? highway=foot bridge=yes layer=1 Can you specify the height restriction for road underneath? Sure. Place a node on the road under the bridge, and mark the node with maxheight=. Assumed to be meters. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:access ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)
maning sambale wrote: Thanks for pointing this one out. Can gpsbabel convert GML to OSM? Last time I checked. it can't: http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.5/The_Formats.html I may have to dig dipper. Any other way? POIs are around 7,000 points. Sure. Write some XSL transforms... They are both XML formats, after all. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] do we have a map feature for this? :)
Stefan Baebler wrote: Ok, so some data does exist. But will the existing routing software proparly take them into account when calculating the route? I believe existing satnav software enables you to find such a POI nearby, and even calculates the optimal route to it ... but am afraid this is not the goal here. Where is the nearest low bridge and how do i get to it? isn't exactly the question someone would ask. Or are there such things as POIs to avoid? Mine doesn't, but it's the base model. It will, however, warn about nearing POIs of specific groups, if set to. I did look at my aunt's Garmin nuvi, and hers has a 'large vehicle' mode. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Edit tags (was Re: search in traces page)
Rodrigo Moya wrote: Trying to promote OSM, one nice thing I've found is pointing people to the GPS tracks, which might make them willing to donate their own tracks (like with wikiloc.org for instance). But the traces page misses IMO a good way to search using the tags added to the tracks. Is there any plan to add such a search interface or is it already available and I missed it? This reminds me - I would like to see a link to edit the tags attached to my traces, and perhaps to suggest tags for others' traces. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] DIY DSLR GPS - The more handy of you might like this
Found this via the Make: Blog. http://www.rickwargo.com/2008/02/24/nikon-d200-gps-version-2/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] do we have a map feature for this? :)
Gregory wrote: Failing the sueing, somebody could make a SatNav that says on the box 'suitable for lorries' or an option to set your veichle type. (using OSM data why not). I went looking for extra POIs for my TomTom and noticed that there is a set of 'low clearance' POIs available for it. I would not be surprised if something similar was available for other units. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Continuous audio in JOSM on tracks without waypoints
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: You might think about the format of the moving marker. Perhaps selected by a user preference. Say a stick man, bike or car :-D Why not auto select by apparent speed? ;) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] updated RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions
Lester Caine wrote: I don't think it applies so much elsewhere - but UK motorways have no pedestrian access - does the same apply on any American routes? US freeways (interstate, etc) do not allow foot traffic, in general. Outside of cities, however, cycles are allowed (inside of cities there's an alternate route ;) ). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM flyer
Frederik Ramm wrote: I don't really know where (in an ideal world) Scribus would fit in the toolchain. Would you write your text with OO and make your bitmaps with the Gimp and vector graphics with Inkscape and then use Scribus to put it all together? That's about right. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 42, Issue 58
David Ebling wrote: Surely with enough tracks you could see the 0.5-1.5km circles fairly clearly? The offset only gets generated once, and applied to all following traces. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC: Highway administrative and physical descriptions
Frederik Ramm wrote: .. one of those decision-charts, don't know how they're called in English, the ones where you always have a yes/no question and are routed to the next question depending on your answer, and finally arrive at your desired result. The term you're looking for is either flowchart or decision tree. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] unpaved residential
Lukasz Stelmach wrote: 1. why there is (i'll answer it in a moment) unsurfaced highway while in practice every highway can have surface=unpaved? Highway=unsurfaced is old. Surface=unpaved is much more recent, and should be used by preference, IMO. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering in a non-default language
Moshe Sayag wrote: Look at the various options: mapnik, kosmos, osmrenderer. Don't you think it would be nice to have an OSM studio that will let you do most of the thing visually, combining some tools (Josm, [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.) with some nice dialogs, buttons and checkboxes? Merkaartor appears to be aimed to be something like that. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Merkaartor ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] highway=stop
Gervase Markham wrote: Have these people not heard of Give Way/Yield or roundabouts? There are plenty of Yield and Roundabout intersections in the US. In fact, there are more (often unsigned) Yield intersections than any other type. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] highway=stop
Jo wrote: A stop sign is internationally a red octagonal sign with STOP written on it in white letters. It means that officially a full stop has to be made. In the US it's best to actually also do that, cause they are very strict about it. Not everywhere. There is a maneuver known as a 'California Stop' in which a driver at an intersection marked 'stop' slows to 5-10 mph, then continues through. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in
Lukasz Stelmach wrote: Martijn Verwijmeren wrote: It is fairly common for larger cities and even small towns in the US to lie in more than one county. Do those cities have their own administration that cooperates with all the counties? The town of Bothell in Washington straddles the border between King and Snohomish counties. The town of Bothell has their own police force which can and does patrol the entire town, but the King County Sheriff can only patrol within Bothell the portion that is inside the boundary of King county. Etc. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Almost one way streets
Jo wrote: Lambertus wrote: cycleway=opposite The same should be possible for buses/public transportation/taxis. Is it? There's no official tag for it. It would be nice if there was, there's a three-block section of one street here that is three lanes oneway for the public, and one lane opposite for buses only. I think I'll use psv=opposite for now. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Almost one way streets
Alex S. wrote: Mark Williams wrote: That I think I'd tag as 2 ways, if they're truly separated. The only thing that separates them is yellow paint. Here's the one I'm talking about: (the road the 'a' marker is pointing to) http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=slat=47.655889lon=-122.318004mag=1q1=47.655383%2C-122.317634 The north lane (westbound) is for car traffic, the south lane has painted bicycle logos on the roadway, and is blocked at either end. On the west end, it's by an island. On the east, by bollards. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Almost one way streets
Mattias Dalkvist wrote: I have come across several streets that are normal streets from one side and are no motor vehicles from the other side. How do one tag this types of streets? I would like to know, too, as there is one street in my area that is one-way for cars and has a separate two-way lane for non-motor traffic (bike, rollerblade, etc). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] TIGER Map Updates
Paul Fox wrote: dave wrote: Yeah, that's the trouble with the TIGER data. Its coverage is excellent, but the quality can be worse than what's there. So, do you wow. i'm beginning to realize that we in new england must be very lucky. sure, tiger shows a lot of non-existent roads, but those that are there have always seemed very accurate to me. i'm sorry to hear that the rest of it is so bad. Outside of the major cities (and I mean *just* outside), the quality of the data near me goes down very quickly. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] route pub_crawl
Michael Kugelmann wrote: looking at the map features page I foundroute = pub_crawl . I didn't find anything in the wiki about the tag. Can any native Englisch speaker explain what is intended with this tag please? I want to know it just to improove the knowledge. Some pubs offer one free drink on your birthday. A pub crawl is an attempt to get as many free drinks as possible in the shortest amount of time. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
