[Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

[Srihari Thalla]

Hi!

Since JOSM featured MapRoulette since a couple of days, there has been a
spike in MapRoulette usage:

   1. All Challenges metrics - http://maproulette.org/ui/metrics
   2. Self-intersecting multipolygon relations (India) -
   http://maproulette.org/ui/metrics/2380

I think we can use this time to add more Indian specific challenges and
thereby improve OSM-India data!

I'm thinking of these challenges:

   1. Reverse ways with oneway = -1 (except in rare cases where direction
   of the way cannot be changed or for other reason) -
   http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nvV
   2. Trace ___ in small towns and villages
  1. Roads
  2. Buildings
   3. Wikipedia and Wikidata tags for:
   1. Cities and towns - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nvT
  2. Railway Stations - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nvU
   4. Tag railway station `ref` codes
  1. http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nvR
  2. Source - http://www.indianrail.gov.in/stn_Code.html
  5. Clean horse=yes tags on highways (except where horses are
   specifically required like at hill stations) -
   http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nvW
   Question: Who set this tag for highways in the first place? Looks like
   the tags are copied from Europe?
   6. Clean redundant motor_vehicle=yes tags on major highways (not
   restricted expressways) (not where this tag is explicitly required) -
   http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nvX

Thoughts? Ideas? Improvements?

Cheers,
Srihari
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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I have set up these challenges as of today:

[1] - Railway Station codes
[2] - Wiki tags for railway stations
[3] - Wiki tags for cities and towns
[4] - Wiki tags for districts

-

@Naveen I hope all the NHs are already traced and mapped [and updated to
the new numbering]? I'll check if Overpass QL supports regex tomorrow and
set up the challenges. I might need your help.

-

Regarding tracing roads and building in small towns and villages, I noticed
that more 50% of the villages were not even mapped (at least in
Andhra/Telangana, I didn't look at other states). I think this procedure
might be good:

[a] - Place `node`s with place=village tags for untagged villages. We don't
know all the names, so we might want to leave the name for now.
[b] - Setup challenges to trace roads; and buildings
[c] - Work to get data about the villages (starting with their names
themselves)

I can start [a] with Andhra Pradesh and Telangana
district-wise-alphabetically. If you are open to this idea, let me know and
your thoughts.

-

Here are the links for the Challenges [1,2,3,4]:

[1] - Railway Station codes - http://maproulette.org/map/2403
[2] - Wiki for Railway Stations - http://maproulette.org/map/2404
[3] - Wiki for cities and towns - http://maproulette.org/map/2405
[4] - Wiki for districts - http://maproulette.org/map/2406

cc Arun. Need your help spreading the word :)
-

I am in touch with Martijn of MapRoulette. He said he would feature our
challenges in the upcoming newsletter. I think the challenges above are
pretty easy and useful for getting people from other communities interested
in OSM, as Arun said.

But tracing untraced villages would be good for featuring in his
newsletter. That might bring attention. What do you think?

On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 at 19:23 Naveen Francis  wrote:

> One more task
>   - Add wikidata tags for Indian Highways, it has been add for about 100
> primary highways.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_India_by_highway_number#/maplink/0
> About 200 may be remaining, finding QID is easier since it is in one
> place :)
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Roads/India/National_Highways
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 March 2017 at 17:16, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
> Challenge 3 and 4 could be quite interesting to get other communities
> interested in OSM.
>
> For Wikidata matching, we can share the challenge with the Wikimedia India
> chapter. Adding these tags also help make maps on Wikipedia. See Naveens'
> diary http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/naveenpf/diary/40515
>
> For any railway mapping we can spread the word on IRFCA, which would get
> the railfans really excited.
>
> Srihari, if you can make the challenges, I could help spread the word. We
> could also do mapping sprints to map them together with others to knock it
> off.
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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I think this query is the one we need for NH relations without Wikidata -
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nz2

Please note it downloads around 40MB of data!
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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Yeah, seems to make the work easy!

I am up for the script.
@Naveen Thoughts?

[1] https://github.com/mapbox/wikimama
[2] https://osmlab.github.io/wikidata-osm/
[3] https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/242 (May not include the NHs)
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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I have added "place=village" nodes for villages in Krishna district (AP)
traced on Bing imagery [1] [2]. I have only traced some parts of the
district and the villages count grew to ~700 and probably doubles once I
sweep thru the entire district. It took a couple of hours for mapping them
(~350 in 2 changesets).

At this rate, it would take several days to just identify unmapped villages
and then map them and several weeks to trace roads to them!

Any ideas on how we can speed this up? As Arun said, we should do it in
sprints for this process to take off.

Thoughts and ideas...

[1] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47103126
[2] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47096890
[3] - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nIz
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

[Srihari Thalla]

Hi, Deepak!

You have to zoom in a little bit. MapRoulette is trying to load the visible
map on the screen in JOSM.

For districts, as they are relations, zoom in on the boundary. This will
make sure that JOSM download contains the relation.
Before (MapRoulette says too much area) -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gi6v65xzl9zxja/Screenshot%202017-03-24%2000.03.50.png?dl=0
After -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4hjq9lpstnkad3/Screenshot%202017-03-24%2000.04.22.png?dl=0

For cities and towns, as they are mostly nodes, zoom in on the node.
Screenshot -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/siivc2in9x70yhq/Screenshot%202017-03-24%2000.05.33.png?dl=0
If it still says too much area, just zoom in a little more!

Try these once again and let me know if it worked. If there are problems, I
will check with Martijn of MapRoulette!

Thanks for checking out challenges. Did you find them useful? Any
improvements to be done for them to make them even more efficient and
exciting?
Any other suggestions?

Cheers,
Srihari

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 at 23:49 Deepak Cherian  wrote:

> Srihari,
>
> Thanks a lot. I just successfully procrastinated through a morning
> searching for Indian Railway station codes.
>
> I tried doing Challenges 3,4 but MapRoulette keeps telling me that the
> areas are too large to download the data. How do I get around that?
>
> Deepak
>
> On 03/16/2017 09:55 AM, Srihari Thalla wrote:
> > I have set up these challenges as of today:
> >
> > [1] - Railway Station codes
> > [2] - Wiki tags for railway stations
> > [3] - Wiki tags for cities and towns
> > [4] - Wiki tags for districts
> >
> > -
> >
> > @Naveen I hope all the NHs are already traced and mapped [and updated to
> > the new numbering]? I'll check if Overpass QL supports regex tomorrow
> > and set up the challenges. I might need your help.
> >
> > -
> >
> > Regarding tracing roads and building in small towns and villages, I
> > noticed that more 50% of the villages were not even mapped (at least in
> > Andhra/Telangana, I didn't look at other states). I think this procedure
> > might be good:
> >
> > [a] - Place `node`s with place=village tags for untagged villages. We
> > don't know all the names, so we might want to leave the name for now.
> > [b] - Setup challenges to trace roads; and buildings
> > [c] - Work to get data about the villages (starting with their names
> > themselves)
> >
> > I can start [a] with Andhra Pradesh and Telangana
> > district-wise-alphabetically. If you are open to this idea, let me know
> > and your thoughts.
> >
> > -
> >
> > Here are the links for the Challenges [1,2,3,4]:
> >
> > [1] - Railway Station codes - http://maproulette.org/map/2403
> > <http://maproulette.org/map/2403/>
> > [2] - Wiki for Railway Stations - http://maproulette.org/map/2404
> > [3] - Wiki for cities and towns - http://maproulette.org/map/2405
> > [4] - Wiki for districts - http://maproulette.org/map/2406
> >
> > cc Arun. Need your help spreading the word :)
> > -
> >
> > I am in touch with Martijn of MapRoulette. He said he would feature our
> > challenges in the upcoming newsletter. I think the challenges above are
> > pretty easy and useful for getting people from other communities
> > interested in OSM, as Arun said.
> >
> > But tracing untraced villages would be good for featuring in his
> > newsletter. That might bring attention. What do you think?
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 at 19:23 Naveen Francis  > <mailto:navee...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > One more task
> >   - Add wikidata tags for Indian Highways, it has been add for about
> > 100 primary highways.
> >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_India_by_highway_number#/maplink/0
> > About 200 may be remaining, finding QID is easier since it is in
> > one place :)
> >
> >
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Roads/India/National_Highways
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 15 March 2017 at 17:16, Arun Ganesh  > <mailto:arun.plane...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Challenge 3 and 4 could be quite interesting to get other
> > communities interested in OSM.
> >
> > For Wikidata matching, we can share the challenge with the
> > Wikimedia India chapter. Adding these tags also help make maps
> > on Wikipedia. See Naveens'
> > diary http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/naveenpf/diary/40515
> >
> > For any railway mapping we can spread the word on IRFCA, which
>

[Talk-in] What is the convention to tag Banks and ATMs

[Srihari Thalla]

Hi! I have a couple of questions:

1. Should the abbreviated names of banks (SBI, SBH, PNB, ...) be tagged as
"brand" tag?

2. Regarding State Bank ATMs, what should be tagged under operator tag?
Should it be "State Bank" (I am not sure which SB group branch manages that
particular ATM!)

[a] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank
[b] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Datm
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Re: [Talk-in] Exploring recent edits in India

[Srihari Thalla]

Amazing! I added a couple more details for the town ;)

On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 at 09:38 muzirian  wrote:

> Thnx :D
>
> On Saturday, March 25, 2017, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
> Its been fun to see the recent changes on the map in Deccan India using
> osmcha [1]. Ended up adding some detail in Aluva to help out muzirian :)
>
> [1]
> http://osmcha.mapbox.com/?modify__gte=0&bbox=65.04829732015679%2C7.823251374735577%2C88.56093988187973%2C19.856480543913648&is_suspect=False&is_whitelisted=All&checked=All
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[Talk-in] How shall we handle multiple railway=station tags at the same place?

[Srihari Thalla]

I am not sure if this is discussed earlier, but what shall we do?

We can trace and tag the buildings with building=train_station but shall we
update the areas with landuse=railway (or maybe something better)?

[1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nOB
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dtrain_station
[3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Drailway
[4] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-March/002813.html

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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

[Srihari Thalla]

Hi Deepak,

Thanks for your feedback! It's very useful.

1. I have made a post with detailed instructions for tagging districts. I
think it is a little easy to tag all the adjacent districts as they share
the same ways.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/maproulette/2017-March/000113.html

2. The official railway link for station codes seems to be down sometimes
and working sometimes. I found an IRFCA link to search for the station
codes. I have updated the link in MapRoulette too.
IRFCA - http://irfca.org/apps/station_codes

3. If no Wiki info if found, it's better to leave them and mark as "Too
difficult/Couldn't fix" in MapRoulette. We can investigate them once the
current Challenges are completed.

4. Stations in the middle of nowhere can be left as marked as "Too
difficult". We can check them later! You can find the train routes info at
http://indiarailinfo.com/
ᐧ

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Deepak Cherian 
wrote:

> Hey Srihari,
>
> I found the challenges a lot of fun. Some feedback below
>
> 1. The districts are a little confusing because district borders are
> shared between two districts. I guess participants are expected to select
> the appropriate way and link to the appropriate wikipedia page. Would be
> good to clarify that.
>
> 2. www.indianrail.gov.in/stn_Code.html does not open. I've been searching
> on DuckDuckGoto find the station code so far.
>
> 3. What about towns/cities/districts/railway-stations that have no
> wikipedia page? Do I say "I fixed it" without changing anything?
>
> 4. Some of the railway stations appear to be in the middle of "nowhere".
> Do you have any suggestions on how to find their name?
>
> Deepak
>
> On 03/23/2017 12:43 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote:
>
>> Hi, Deepak!
>>
>> You have to zoom in a little bit. MapRoulette is trying to load the
>> visible map on the screen in JOSM.
>>
>> For districts, as they are relations, zoom in on the boundary. This will
>> make sure that JOSM download contains the relation.
>> Before (MapRoulette says too much area)
>> - https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gi6v65xzl9zxja/Screenshot%202017-
>> 03-24%2000.03.50.png?dl=0
>> After
>> - https://www.dropbox.com/s/w4hjq9lpstnkad3/Screenshot%202017-
>> 03-24%2000.04.22.png?dl=0
>>
>> For cities and towns, as they are mostly nodes, zoom in on the node.
>> Screenshot
>> - https://www.dropbox.com/s/siivc2in9x70yhq/Screenshot%202017-
>> 03-24%2000.05.33.png?dl=0
>> If it still says too much area, just zoom in a little more!
>>
>> Try these once again and let me know if it worked. If there are
>> problems, I will check with Martijn of MapRoulette!
>>
>> Thanks for checking out challenges. Did you find them useful? Any
>> improvements to be done for them to make them even more efficient and
>> exciting?
>> Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Srihari
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 at 23:49 Deepak Cherian > <mailto:dpak.cher...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Srihari,
>>
>> Thanks a lot. I just successfully procrastinated through a morning
>> searching for Indian Railway station codes.
>>
>> I tried doing Challenges 3,4 but MapRoulette keeps telling me that the
>> areas are too large to download the data. How do I get around that?
>>
>> Deepak
>>
>> On 03/16/2017 09:55 AM, Srihari Thalla wrote:
>> > I have set up these challenges as of today:
>> >
>> > [1] - Railway Station codes
>> > [2] - Wiki tags for railway stations
>> > [3] - Wiki tags for cities and towns
>> > [4] - Wiki tags for districts
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > @Naveen I hope all the NHs are already traced and mapped [and
>> updated to
>> > the new numbering]? I'll check if Overpass QL supports regex
>> tomorrow
>> > and set up the challenges. I might need your help.
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > Regarding tracing roads and building in small towns and villages, I
>> > noticed that more 50% of the villages were not even mapped (at
>> least in
>> > Andhra/Telangana, I didn't look at other states). I think this
>> procedure
>> > might be good:
>> >
>> > [a] - Place `node`s with place=village tags for untagged villages.
>> We
>> > don't know all the names, so we might want to leave the name for
>> now.
>> > [b] - Setup challenges to trace roads; and buildings
>> >

Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

[Srihari Thalla]

I have completed identifying unmapped villages in Krishna. There are 1174
nodes and ways tagged with "place=village".

I have made a Challenge in MapRoulette to trace roads and connect these
villages with nearby highways. (We can trace houses later.)

I need help with tagging the roads. I made the instructions to tag
asphalt/good condition roads as "tertiary" and other non-asphalt roads as
"unclassified".
Since these roads connect villages with other major highways/town/other
villages, the tags tertiary/unclassified seemed optimal.

Identifying and tagging these unmapped villages took around 8 hours and
spread across a week!
At this rate, it might take several months for me to just tag Andhra
Pradesh and Telangana.

I would really need help from others speeding this up. If anyone's
interested, we can organise and work together.

[1] - http://maproulette.org/map/2460
[2] - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nT8
[3] - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway#Roads

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 at 23:42 Srihari Thalla  wrote:

> I have added "place=village" nodes for villages in Krishna district (AP)
> traced on Bing imagery [1] [2]. I have only traced some parts of the
> district and the villages count grew to ~700 and probably doubles once I
> sweep thru the entire district. It took a couple of hours for mapping them
> (~350 in 2 changesets).
>
> At this rate, it would take several days to just identify unmapped
> villages and then map them and several weeks to trace roads to them!
>
> Any ideas on how we can speed this up? As Arun said, we should do it in
> sprints for this process to take off.
>
> Thoughts and ideas...
>
> [1] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47103126
> [2] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47096890
> [3] - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nIz
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

[Srihari Thalla]

Thanks, Muzirian ;)

Can you help with mapping villages? You can start with your native
district. Here is what I did:

I picked up a district, Krishna, and made a total sweep and identified
villages that are not yet mapped. I placed a node with place=village tag. I
don't know the names of the villages, so I didn't put the name tag. I was
able to map 1000 villages.
Once it's completed, I have prepared the MapRoulette Challenge[1] to trace
roads in these villages and connect to the nearby highways.

Instead of the node[place=village], an area with landuse=residential can
also be made. But that is too tedious.

I don't know the names of the villages, but I hope we can tag them later,
probably using DataMeet data!

Do you have other thoughts?

[1] - http://maproulette.org/map/2460
[2] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47320624
[3] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47320992

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 at 21:41 muzirian  wrote:

> > I would really need help from others speeding this up. If anyone's
> interested, we can organise and work together.
> I can help with some work :P
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
> I have completed identifying unmapped villages in Krishna. There are 1174
> nodes and ways tagged with "place=village".
>
> I have made a Challenge in MapRoulette to trace roads and connect these
> villages with nearby highways. (We can trace houses later.)
>
> I need help with tagging the roads. I made the instructions to tag
> asphalt/good condition roads as "tertiary" and other non-asphalt roads as
> "unclassified".
> Since these roads connect villages with other major highways/town/other
> villages, the tags tertiary/unclassified seemed optimal.
>
> Identifying and tagging these unmapped villages took around 8 hours and
> spread across a week!
> At this rate, it might take several months for me to just tag Andhra
> Pradesh and Telangana.
>
> I would really need help from others speeding this up. If anyone's
> interested, we can organise and work together.
>
> [1] - http://maproulette.org/map/2460
> [2] - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nT8
> [3] - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway#Roads
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 at 23:42 Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
> I have added "place=village" nodes for villages in Krishna district (AP)
> traced on Bing imagery [1] [2]. I have only traced some parts of the
> district and the villages count grew to ~700 and probably doubles once I
> sweep thru the entire district. It took a couple of hours for mapping them
> (~350 in 2 changesets).
>
> At this rate, it would take several days to just identify unmapped
> villages and then map them and several weeks to trace roads to them!
>
> Any ideas on how we can speed this up? As Arun said, we should do it in
> sprints for this process to take off.
>
> Thoughts and ideas...
>
> [1] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47103126
> [2] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47096890
> [3] - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nIz
>
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Re: [Talk-in] How shall we handle multiple railway=station tags at the same place?

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Seems someone actually updated with landuse=railway!

[1] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47262978

On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 at 21:31 muzirian  wrote:

> Your suggestion sounds good, isn't landuse=railway good? what alternative
> is available?
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
> I am not sure if this is discussed earlier, but what shall we do?
>
> We can trace and tag the buildings with building=train_station but shall
> we update the areas with landuse=railway (or maybe something better)?
>
> [1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nOB
> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dtrain_station
> [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Drailway
> [4]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-March/002813.html
>
> cc @PlaneMad @muzirian
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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Oh, may be check out West Godavari of AP?

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 at 23:00 muzirian  wrote:

> >Can you help with mapping villages? You can start with your native
> district.
>
> Its difficult to understand village borders here from imagery.
> May be I can help with places where its possible.
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Re: [Talk-in] How to get all missing street names for chennai?

[Srihari Thalla]

I can use your script to extract the same for Telangana and AP and
hopefully improve Telugu translations here too, thanks! (BTW, I don't know
Python. Wish I could help.)

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 at 12:57 Srikanth Lakshmanan  wrote:

> Hi Shrini,
>
>
> On 2 April 2017 at 21:41, Shrinivasan T  wrote:
>
> How can get them all?
>
>
> Mapzen provides metro extracts[0] and I used xpath here to get list of
> nodes without name:ta. Parsing extracted Chennai osm file (400 MB) consumes
> lot of memory. Python experts, please feel free to optimize this code[1] in
> better ways.  The list of nodes (I will come to ways, relations soon) is
> available here[2].
>
> Offlate, I am facing strange unicode issues with my script which used to
> work, but will soon get it fixed. I am thinking of trying TensorFlow or
> equivalent ML models to provide translation suggestions, aside from google
> translate. Wikidata doesnt help when it comes to street level sadly.
>
> [0] https://mapzen.com/data/metro-extracts/
> [1] https://github.com/srikanthlogic/osm-ta/blob/master/MetroExtract2.py
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PJdMVuSHDQ9-11ewj2pT_CNqKMLUiqUurcfyHGgSfoE/edit?usp=sharing
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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Very happy to know that :)

I see that he has also updated NH wiki tags (but with errors, he is
correcting too). @Naveen Can you check if all the NHs are properly tagged
and complete with Wiki-pedia/data? Thanks.

He is also adding Wiki info for cities and towns now.

On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 at 06:53 Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Challenge "Wiki for districts" is completed.
> User Vonter <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Vonter> has added tags for
> most of the  Indian districts :)
>
> Thanks,
> naveenpf
>
> On 16 March 2017 at 21:25, Srihari Thalla  wrote:
>
> I have set up these challenges as of today:
>
> [1] - Railway Station codes
> [2] - Wiki tags for railway stations
> [3] - Wiki tags for cities and towns
> [4] - Wiki tags for districts
>
> -
>
> @Naveen I hope all the NHs are already traced and mapped [and updated to
> the new numbering]? I'll check if Overpass QL supports regex tomorrow and
> set up the challenges. I might need your help.
>
> -
>
> Regarding tracing roads and building in small towns and villages, I
> noticed that more 50% of the villages were not even mapped (at least in
> Andhra/Telangana, I didn't look at other states). I think this procedure
> might be good:
>
> [a] - Place `node`s with place=village tags for untagged villages. We
> don't know all the names, so we might want to leave the name for now.
> [b] - Setup challenges to trace roads; and buildings
> [c] - Work to get data about the villages (starting with their names
> themselves)
>
> I can start [a] with Andhra Pradesh and Telangana
> district-wise-alphabetically. If you are open to this idea, let me know and
> your thoughts.
>
> -
>
> Here are the links for the Challenges [1,2,3,4]:
>
> [1] - Railway Station codes - http://maproulette.org/map/2403
> [2] - Wiki for Railway Stations - http://maproulette.org/map/2404
> [3] - Wiki for cities and towns - http://maproulette.org/map/2405
> [4] - Wiki for districts - http://maproulette.org/map/2406
>
> cc Arun. Need your help spreading the word :)
> -
>
> I am in touch with Martijn of MapRoulette. He said he would feature our
> challenges in the upcoming newsletter. I think the challenges above are
> pretty easy and useful for getting people from other communities interested
> in OSM, as Arun said.
>
> But tracing untraced villages would be good for featuring in his
> newsletter. That might bring attention. What do you think?
>
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 at 19:23 Naveen Francis  wrote:
>
> One more task
>   - Add wikidata tags for Indian Highways, it has been add for about 100
> primary highways.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_India_by_highway_number#/maplink/0
> About 200 may be remaining, finding QID is easier since it is in one
> place :)
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Roads/India/National_Highways
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 March 2017 at 17:16, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
> Challenge 3 and 4 could be quite interesting to get other communities
> interested in OSM.
>
> For Wikidata matching, we can share the challenge with the Wikimedia India
> chapter. Adding these tags also help make maps on Wikipedia. See Naveens'
> diary http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/naveenpf/diary/40515
>
> For any railway mapping we can spread the word on IRFCA, which would get
> the railfans really excited.
>
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> could also do mapping sprints to map them together with others to knock it
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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I think not all of the NH are listed in the Wikipedia page. I don't see
NH340C, NH544D, etc,. Are these listed some where else?

[1] -
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_India_by_highway_number

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017, 16:08 Naveen Francis  wrote:

> Looks like we dont have somewhere 228 highways without wikiarticle.
>
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nz2 [20 mb]
> <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nz2>
>
> On 3 April 2017 at 13:28, Srihari Thalla  wrote:
>
> Very happy to know that :)
>
> I see that he has also updated NH wiki tags (but with errors, he is
> correcting too). @Naveen Can you check if all the NHs are properly tagged
> and complete with Wiki-pedia/data? Thanks.
>
> He is also adding Wiki info for cities and towns now.
>
> On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 at 06:53 Naveen Francis  wrote:
>
> Challenge "Wiki for districts" is completed.
> User Vonter <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Vonter> has added tags for
> most of the  Indian districts :)
>
> Thanks,
> naveenpf
>
> On 16 March 2017 at 21:25, Srihari Thalla  wrote:
>
> I have set up these challenges as of today:
>
> [1] - Railway Station codes
> [2] - Wiki tags for railway stations
> [3] - Wiki tags for cities and towns
> [4] - Wiki tags for districts
>
> -
>
> @Naveen I hope all the NHs are already traced and mapped [and updated to
> the new numbering]? I'll check if Overpass QL supports regex tomorrow and
> set up the challenges. I might need your help.
>
> -
>
> Regarding tracing roads and building in small towns and villages, I
> noticed that more 50% of the villages were not even mapped (at least in
> Andhra/Telangana, I didn't look at other states). I think this procedure
> might be good:
>
> [a] - Place `node`s with place=village tags for untagged villages. We
> don't know all the names, so we might want to leave the name for now.
> [b] - Setup challenges to trace roads; and buildings
> [c] - Work to get data about the villages (starting with their names
> themselves)
>
> I can start [a] with Andhra Pradesh and Telangana
> district-wise-alphabetically. If you are open to this idea, let me know and
> your thoughts.
>
> -
>
> Here are the links for the Challenges [1,2,3,4]:
>
> [1] - Railway Station codes - http://maproulette.org/map/2403
> [2] - Wiki for Railway Stations - http://maproulette.org/map/2404
> [3] - Wiki for cities and towns - http://maproulette.org/map/2405
> [4] - Wiki for districts - http://maproulette.org/map/2406
>
> cc Arun. Need your help spreading the word :)
> -
>
> I am in touch with Martijn of MapRoulette. He said he would feature our
> challenges in the upcoming newsletter. I think the challenges above are
> pretty easy and useful for getting people from other communities interested
> in OSM, as Arun said.
>
> But tracing untraced villages would be good for featuring in his
> newsletter. That might bring attention. What do you think?
>
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 at 19:23 Naveen Francis  wrote:
>
> One more task
>   - Add wikidata tags for Indian Highways, it has been add for about 100
> primary highways.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_India_by_highway_number#/maplink/0
> About 200 may be remaining, finding QID is easier since it is in one
> place :)
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Roads/India/National_Highways
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15 March 2017 at 17:16, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>
> Challenge 3 and 4 could be quite interesting to get other communities
> interested in OSM.
>
> For Wikidata matching, we can share the challenge with the Wikimedia India
> chapter. Adding these tags also help make maps on Wikipedia. See Naveens'
> diary http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/naveenpf/diary/40515
>
> For any railway mapping we can spread the word on IRFCA, which would get
> the railfans really excited.
>
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Re: [Talk-in] license compatibility of various data sources for india

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But DataMeet has only 5 states :-/

What about this repo -
https://github.com/justinelliotmeyers/official_india_2011_village_boundary_lines
Does it contain all of them?

On Wed, 5 Apr 2017 at 23:19 Naveen Francis  wrote:

> http://projects.datameet.org/indian_village_boundaries/
>  (All work will be under Open Data Commons Open Database License (ODbL). )
>
>
> On 5 April 2017 at 20:01, muzirian  wrote:
>
> Anybody know if all these sources given in this page have an osm
> compaitable license?
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Data_sources
>
> Also is there any other data source which we can use like anything from
> https://data.gov.in
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[Talk-in] Identifying usage of railway tracks

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As of this writing, there are 10052 Ways with railway=rail but without any
usage=* / service=* tags[1].

I have created a MapRoulette Challenge[2] with these Ways. I hope this
Challenge would get IRFCA fans interested[3]. (Who knows about railways
better than them? ;))

But, I have not filled in the instructions on how to complete the
Challenge. I don't think many IRFCA people know how to contribute to OSM,
so I believe a detailed instruction manual would be necessary (like this
[4]).

Can someone help me with preparing it?

[1] - http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/o9o
[2] - http://maproulette.org/map/2465
[3] - http://www.openrailwaymap.org
[4] - https://gist.github.com/SrihariThalla/ab896aecef7f50999aae1b2fd210c036
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Re: [Talk-in] How shall we handle multiple railway=station tags at the same place?

[Srihari Thalla]

Taking this even further, I think tagging the area around the railway
stations with landuse=railway would even be very useful and will be
rendered as a light pink coloured background!

[1] Viajaywada - https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/16.5190/80.6205
[2] Bengaluru - https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/12.9786/77.5703
[3] Chennai Central - https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/13.0864/80.2717
[4] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/ogl

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 at 22:35 Srihari Thalla  wrote:

> Seems someone actually updated with landuse=railway!
>
> [1] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47262978
>
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2017 at 21:31 muzirian  wrote:
>
> Your suggestion sounds good, isn't landuse=railway good? what alternative
> is available?
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
> I am not sure if this is discussed earlier, but what shall we do?
>
> We can trace and tag the buildings with building=train_station but shall
> we update the areas with landuse=railway (or maybe something better)?
>
> [1] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/nOB
> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dtrain_station
> [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Drailway
> [4]
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-March/002813.html
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Survey of India maps

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OSM is categorized commercial?

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017, 17:16 muzirian  wrote:

> They have made it clear that the data cant be used freely for commercial
> purposes, so I guess this restricts the use of these data in osm.
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Piyush P Kurur 
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 08:59:46AM +0530, GN wrote:
> > Regrefully some of you have Aadhaar number to download the maps!
> >
> >
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/aadhaar-must-for-e-access-to-survey-of-india-maps/article17915073.ece
>
>
> This is getting beyond absurd, the not even wrong territory. Aadhar
> number for downloading maps?
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Change of merged bank names in OpenStreetMap

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I have a couple of questions

1. Several Associate Banks are located in the same locality. Will they be
operated or be shut down?
2. Referring to the above, they tend to have the same "branch" name as in
"Chandanagar Branch". What about them?

Did SBI release any info about these issues? I remember reading some news
articles that some of the branches would be closed down.

If an automated script isn't preferred, one can download using the Overpass
query in JOSM (File > Download via Overpass) [1] and update accordingly.

[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47169982

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 at 00:06 Aruna S  wrote:

> Chethan, one way may be to automate this by extending
> https://github.com/srividyacb/osm-name-translation with Srividya's help
> and using her script/workflow to extract the names/IDs of the SBI objects
> from OSM. Once you have a CSV, you can use the quick drag functionality
> that CSVs offer, to quickly copy paste SBI under the name tag, and
> subsequently use her python script to automate the changeset!
>
> I know the community has several hesitations over automated scripts, so
> may be a good idea to work on:
> 1. Testing the workflow with a single object first
> 2. Adding all the edits to the map, and monitoring the changeset.
>
> Will let others express their shock/friendly-nods on this suggestion. : D
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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Do we have railway routes mapped on OSM?

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017, 23:02 muzirian  wrote:

>
> https://data.gov.in/resources/indian-railways-time-table-trains-available-reservation-03082015/download
>
> https://data.gov.in/catalog/indian-railways-train-time-table-0
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:00 PM, muzirian  wrote:
>
>> more usable data :D from data.gov.in
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Arun Ganesh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The railway data on datameet can be used to create a background layer in
>>> JOSM/iD as a reference. Here is one map
>>> http://ruchikavn.github.io/indianrailwaymap/#10.68/17.0646/76.9679
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:14 AM, muzirian  wrote:
>>>
 Was fixing railway stations over? found some usable data :p

 https://github.com/datameet/railways/blob/master/stations.json

 On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Naveen Francis 
 wrote:

> Yes. Not all national highways have wikipedia article
> Master list of all highways are here
> 
> We have about 452 national highways.
> In english wikipedia, we have only articles for 255 highways.
> For old numbering we have about 48 articles, that has to be deleted
> later.
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Re: [Talk-in] Use MapRoulette to improve OSM - India data

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Yes. Yes, very hard!

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017, 17:00 Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> You mean individual train routes? Thats sounds incredibly hard to map and
> maintain.
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Re: [Talk-in] Change of merged bank names in OpenStreetMap

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Hey Chetan,

Have you started working on them? I'd like to join with you.

On Thu 25 May, 2017, 09:54 Chetan H A,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Bharata, this workflow works good for most of users who use JOSM as
> editor. Thanks for the help. Will work on weekends and knock them all.
> Anyone who want to join is appreciated. :)
>
> Chetan
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Bharata H S 
> wrote:
>
>> In reference with [1
>> 
>> ], [2
>> ]
>> and the earlier discussion in this thread, pulled out a list of bank names
>> that needs to be renamed as State Bank of India.
>>
>> The steps followed were,
>>
>>1. Overpass query  with amenity=bank
>>for the geocoding area of India.
>>2. The raw data as .csv was extracted and imported to a spreadsheet.
>>3. Used simple filtering to classify the required banks that need to
>>be renamed. *Spreadsheet*
>>
>> 
>>4. There are 594 entries that needs to be fixed.
>>5. Created a JOSM link to assist the addition of modified name. This
>>adds
>>   1. name=State Bank of India
>>   2. short_name=SBI [short_name  -  Common abbreviation, useful for
>>   searching (recognised by Nominatim).
>>   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name ]
>>   3. wikidata=Q1340361 (*Ref
>>   )*
>>   4. wikipedia=en:State Bank of India (*Ref
>>   )*
>>   5. website=https://www.sbi.co.in  
>>
>>
>>1. There is also a link to open the feature and edit with *iD editor.
>>*But the tags mentioned above are not added automatically.
>>2. The feature corresponding to the bank could be viewed on
>>OpenStreetMap using the View in OSM link.
>>3.  Added a Status column and a progress tracker table to keep track
>>of the count.
>>
>>
>> *Note*: The current list contains only features tagged as amenity=bank
>> in OpenStreetMap and doesn’t include ATMs that are usually tagged as
>> amenity=atm. The list also includes banks which are just named as *SBI *and
>> doesn’t have the proper name as State Bank of India. The intention behind
>> this was to standardise all State banks on OpenStreetMap.
>>
>> [1] -
>> http://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/sbi-five-associate-banks-bmb-merge-with-sbi/article17757316.ece
>> [2] -
>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/banking/finance/banking/post-merger-sbi-begins-operations-as-unified-entity/articleshow/57962972.cms
>>
>> Share your thoughts on this and any suggestions are welcome on the
>> approach.
>>
>> Link to Spreadsheet:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:15 PM, muzirian  wrote:
>>
>>> Ya many will will be shutdown, but all of them are working now, SBI have
>>> announced changed branch names.I think i saw those name list on newspaper.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Arun Ganesh 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Srihari's suggestion of using overpass->JOSM is the easiest if we want
 to make such a change.

 > Meanwhile, we can just change bank name from associate to SBI.

 We should do this once the name boards on the ground start changing,
 otherwise this would cause confusion for those using the maps. Ganesh is
 there a deadline by which all the branches should update their signboard?

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Re: [Talk-in] Change of merged bank names in OpenStreetMap

[Srihari Thalla]

I just noticed that several banks have translations in other languages too!
I guess we need to address them, maybe after this sprint of changes? An
automated script might be preferred as all these banks are just names the
same!

On Sat, 27 May 2017 at 13:17 Chetan H A  wrote:

> Srihari, I'm uploading the changeset with the comment:
> "change of merged bank names to SBI
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-May/002888.html ",
> Let me know if you need any help.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Chetan H A  wrote:
>
>> Hi Sri Hari, I started fixing from the top of spreadsheet. Please join
>> from the bottom of it.
>>
>> On 27 May 2017 1:02 p.m., "Srihari Thalla" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Chetan,
>>
>> Have you started working on them? I'd like to join with you.
>>
>> On Thu 25 May, 2017, 09:54 Chetan H A,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Bharata, this workflow works good for most of users who use JOSM as
>>> editor. Thanks for the help. Will work on weekends and knock them all.
>>> Anyone who want to join is appreciated. :)
>>>
>>> Chetan
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Bharata H S 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In reference with [1
>>>> <http://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/sbi-five-associate-banks-bmb-merge-with-sbi/article17757316.ece>
>>>> ], [2
>>>> <http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/industry/banking/finance/banking/post-merger-sbi-begins-operations-as-unified-entity/articleshow/57962972.cms>]
>>>> and the earlier discussion in this thread, pulled out a list of bank names
>>>> that needs to be renamed as State Bank of India.
>>>>
>>>> The steps followed were,
>>>>
>>>>1. Overpass query <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oQt> with amenity=bank
>>>>for the geocoding area of India.
>>>>2. The raw data as .csv was extracted and imported to a
>>>>spreadsheet.
>>>>3. Used simple filtering to classify the required banks that need
>>>>to be renamed. *Spreadsheet*
>>>>
>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629>
>>>>4. There are 594 entries that needs to be fixed.
>>>>5. Created a JOSM link to assist the addition of modified name.
>>>>This adds
>>>>   1. name=State Bank of India
>>>>   2. short_name=SBI [short_name  -  Common abbreviation, useful
>>>>   for searching (recognised by Nominatim).
>>>>   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name ]
>>>>   3. wikidata=Q1340361 (*Ref
>>>>   <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1340361>)*
>>>>   4. wikipedia=en:State Bank of India (*Ref
>>>>   <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Bank_of_India>)*
>>>>   5. website=https://www.sbi.co.in  <https://www.sbi.co.in>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. There is also a link to open the feature and edit with *iD
>>>>editor. *But the tags mentioned above are not added automatically.
>>>>2. The feature corresponding to the bank could be viewed on
>>>>OpenStreetMap using the View in OSM link.
>>>>3.  Added a Status column and a progress tracker table to keep
>>>>track of the count.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Note*: The current list contains only features tagged as amenity=bank
>>>> in OpenStreetMap and doesn’t include ATMs that are usually tagged as
>>>> amenity=atm. The list also includes banks which are just named as *SBI
>>>> *and doesn’t have the proper name as State Bank of India. The
>>>> intention behind this was to standardise all State banks on OpenStreetMap.
>>>>
>>>> [1] -
>>>> http://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/sbi-five-associate-banks-bmb-merge-with-sbi/article17757316.ece
>>>> [2] -
>>>> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/banking/finance/banking/post-merger-sbi-begins-operations-as-unified-entity/articleshow/57962972.cms
>>>>
>>>> Share your thoughts on this and any suggestions are welcome on the
>>>> approach.
>>>>
>>>> Link to Spreadsheet:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:15 P

Re: [Talk-in] Change of merged bank names in OpenStreetMap

[Srihari Thalla]

Has there been a discussion about what would be the preferred tagging
scheme amenity=bank: node or an area? (I see some of the banks in the
spreadsheet are tagged as areas.)

Unlike places of worship, banks tend to be located in both dedicated
buildings (as in owned by the bank) or in a rented commercial space.

An area suits well with the dedicated scenario but a node is preferred for
rented ones!

On Sat, 27 May 2017 at 15:38 Srihari Thalla  wrote:

> I just noticed that several banks have translations in other languages
> too! I guess we need to address them, maybe after this sprint of changes?
> An automated script might be preferred as all these banks are just names
> the same!
>
> On Sat, 27 May 2017 at 13:17 Chetan H A  wrote:
>
>> Srihari, I'm uploading the changeset with the comment:
>> "change of merged bank names to SBI
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-May/002888.html ",
>> Let me know if you need any help.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Chetan H A  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sri Hari, I started fixing from the top of spreadsheet. Please join
>>> from the bottom of it.
>>>
>>> On 27 May 2017 1:02 p.m., "Srihari Thalla" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Chetan,
>>>
>>> Have you started working on them? I'd like to join with you.
>>>
>>> On Thu 25 May, 2017, 09:54 Chetan H A,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Bharata, this workflow works good for most of users who use JOSM as
>>>> editor. Thanks for the help. Will work on weekends and knock them all.
>>>> Anyone who want to join is appreciated. :)
>>>>
>>>> Chetan
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Bharata H S 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In reference with [1
>>>>> <http://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/sbi-five-associate-banks-bmb-merge-with-sbi/article17757316.ece>
>>>>> ], [2
>>>>> <http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/industry/banking/finance/banking/post-merger-sbi-begins-operations-as-unified-entity/articleshow/57962972.cms>]
>>>>> and the earlier discussion in this thread, pulled out a list of bank names
>>>>> that needs to be renamed as State Bank of India.
>>>>>
>>>>> The steps followed were,
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Overpass query <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oQt> with
>>>>>amenity=bank for the geocoding area of India.
>>>>>2. The raw data as .csv was extracted and imported to a
>>>>>spreadsheet.
>>>>>3. Used simple filtering to classify the required banks that need
>>>>>to be renamed. *Spreadsheet*
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629>
>>>>>4. There are 594 entries that needs to be fixed.
>>>>>5. Created a JOSM link to assist the addition of modified name.
>>>>>This adds
>>>>>   1. name=State Bank of India
>>>>>   2. short_name=SBI [short_name  -  Common abbreviation, useful
>>>>>   for searching (recognised by Nominatim).
>>>>>   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name ]
>>>>>   3. wikidata=Q1340361 (*Ref
>>>>>   <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1340361>)*
>>>>>   4. wikipedia=en:State Bank of India (*Ref
>>>>>   <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Bank_of_India>)*
>>>>>   5. website=https://www.sbi.co.in  <https://www.sbi.co.in>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>1. There is also a link to open the feature and edit with *iD
>>>>>editor. *But the tags mentioned above are not added automatically.
>>>>>2. The feature corresponding to the bank could be viewed on
>>>>>OpenStreetMap using the View in OSM link.
>>>>>3.  Added a Status column and a progress tracker table to keep
>>>>>track of the count.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Note*: The current list contains only features tagged as amenity=bank
>>>>> in OpenStreetMap and doesn’t include ATMs that are usually tagged as
>>>>> amenity=atm. The list also includes banks which are just named as *SBI
>>>>> *and doesn’t have the proper name as State Bank of India. The
>>>>> intention behind th

Re: [Talk-in] Adding Wikidata links to OSM data in India

[Srihari Thalla]

Yeah, checked it after coming through your changeset this afternoon. It's
very good. But unfortunately Overpass timed out for my queries :-/ I've
tried Guntur city and district.

On Mon 29 May, 2017, 17:21 Arun Ganesh,  wrote:

> There's a beautiful new tool called https://osm.wikidata.link that helps
> identify potential map features in any city that can be linked with their
> respective Wikidata/Wikipedia entries.
>
> I just tried it out for New Delhi and was quite surprised to find that all
> the suggestions it gave were accurate and all it took was for a single
> click to review and add all of them. Would be great to hear if it worked
> well for your own city or town.
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Re: [Talk-in] Change of merged bank names in OpenStreetMap

[Srihari Thalla]

Chetan,

I have left some of the entries in the spreadsheet which are ambiguously
named like 'SBI ATM' and such, but of course, are tagged with amenity=bank.
I am not sure if I can change them.

On Mon, 29 May 2017 at 10:24 Arun Ganesh  wrote:

> > An area suits well with the dedicated scenario but a node is preferred
> for rented ones!
>
> Agree!
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[Talk-in] Short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

It is recommended to add short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks.
Short names will enable Nominatim to search when short names are queried.
Additionally, website and wikipedia tags would be useful.

Here is a list of short names for banks I could think of. Please suggest
any others!

- BoB
- BoI
- HDFC
- ICICI
- IDBI
- IOB
- KVB
- OBC
- PNB
- RBL
- SBI

For reference, here is a list of banks in the country -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banks_of_India
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Re: [Talk-in] Short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

Yeah, RBI is lost!

On Thu 1 Jun, 2017, 23:21 Chetan H A,  wrote:

> Srihari,
>
> That's truly makes sense. Short names will make search quicker, you have
> already covered most of them. Only RBI is missing from the list!
>
> Best,
> Chetan
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
>> It is recommended to add short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks.
>> Short names will enable Nominatim to search when short names are queried.
>> Additionally, website and wikipedia tags would be useful.
>>
>> Here is a list of short names for banks I could think of. Please suggest
>> any others!
>>
>> - BoB
>> - BoI
>> - HDFC
>> - ICICI
>> - IDBI
>> - IOB
>> - KVB
>> - OBC
>> - PNB
>> - RBL
>> - SBI
>>
>> For reference, here is a list of banks in the country -
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banks_of_India
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Re: [Talk-in] Short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

Are these short names intended for UPI or payments-related?

On Fri 2 Jun, 2017, 09:56 Shajeer M,  wrote:

>
> http://www.npci.org.in/documents/Lists_of_Banks_along_with_Short_name_and_IFS_code_live_on_NUUP.pdf
>
>
>
> Sent from my Mi phone
> On 1 Jun 2017 11:21 p.m., Chetan H A  wrote:
> Srihari,
>
> That's truly makes sense. Short names will make search quicker, you have
> already covered most of them. Only RBI is missing from the list!
>
> Best,
> Chetan
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
>> It is recommended to add short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks.
>> Short names will enable Nominatim to search when short names are queried.
>> Additionally, website and wikipedia tags would be useful.
>>
>> Here is a list of short names for banks I could think of. Please suggest
>> any others!
>>
>> - BoB
>> - BoI
>> - HDFC
>> - ICICI
>> - IDBI
>> - IOB
>> - KVB
>> - OBC
>> - PNB
>> - RBL
>> - SBI
>>
>> For reference, here is a list of banks in the country -
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banks_of_India
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Re: [Talk-in] Short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

Can RBI be tagged with amenity=bank? The wiki[1] says "A bank branch is a
financial establishment where customers can, among other services, deposit
and withdraw money, take loans, make investments and transfer funds." RBI
does not do them (does it?) rather controls the money policy and others.

BTW, here is the complete list of Banks in India:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_in_India
In a previous mail, the link I posted is just a category of it.

[1] - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 at 23:25 Srihari Thalla  wrote:

> Yeah, RBI is lost!
>
> On Thu 1 Jun, 2017, 23:21 Chetan H A,  wrote:
>
>> Srihari,
>>
>> That's truly makes sense. Short names will make search quicker, you have
>> already covered most of them. Only RBI is missing from the list!
>>
>> Best,
>> Chetan
>>
>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Srihari Thalla 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is recommended to add short names and brand:wikidata tags for Banks.
>>> Short names will enable Nominatim to search when short names are queried.
>>> Additionally, website and wikipedia tags would be useful.
>>>
>>> Here is a list of short names for banks I could think of. Please suggest
>>> any others!
>>>
>>> - BoB
>>> - BoI
>>> - HDFC
>>> - ICICI
>>> - IDBI
>>> - IOB
>>> - KVB
>>> - OBC
>>> - PNB
>>> - RBL
>>> - SBI
>>>
>>> For reference, here is a list of banks in the country -
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banks_of_India
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[Talk-in] Tagging service roads of National Highways

[Srihari Thalla]

Hi!

Some of the major National Highways (like Asian Highways[1]) have service
roads running in parallel. What is the standard tagging of these roads?

I have tagged them as "trunk_link" [2] but I am not sure if this is the one
followed by others.

[1] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/471481188
[2] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/421844986

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Re: [Talk-in] Tagging service roads of National Highways

[Srihari Thalla]

Hi,

The secondary tag seems more appropriate for the area I have shared. Thanks
for the Wiki link. I'll update the roads.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 at 12:06 I Chengappa  wrote:

> hi
>
> It definitely should not be trunk_link.
>
> The advice at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Frontage_road is that
> it should be tagged as a minor road as compared to the major road. The
> tagging level should depend on its function in local connectivity i.e. how
> important it is in connecting local settlements. I think most of them could
> reasonably be tagged as tertiary or secondary roads.
>
> Thanks,
>
> On 19 August 2017 at 10:15, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Some of the major National Highways (like Asian Highways[1]) have service
>> roads running in parallel. What is the standard tagging of these roads?
>>
>> I have tagged them as "trunk_link" [2] but I am not sure if this is the
>> one followed by others.
>>
>> [1] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/471481188
>> [2] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/421844986
>>
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[Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

Hi,

Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate State
Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx) to the new name, "State Bank
of India".

We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet [1]. I have
updated many entries.
However, I forgot to add the old_name tag with the old name (State Bank of
xxx) and just updated the name tag to State Bank of India.

I think it is good to have the old names in the old_name tag as people
might still remember the banks with their old names.

Thoughts?

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[1] -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629

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Re: [Talk-in] old_name tag for merged Associate State Banks

[Srihari Thalla]

Chetan, Is there any possibility to update them via script?

I am not sure if Overpass API can download based on changes in changesets.
If not, manually going through the spreadsheet would be the obvious choice.

It would be better to write a script to query the histories of Bank amenity
objects
and import them into JOSM and update.

Scripting would, of course, need approval from the community!

Here are my changesets: OSMCha: https://goo.gl/V76HoH

I bundled all the changes into two changesets. (There are 5 other singled
out changesets too.)

Manually :: Downloading the changeset -> going through each object history
-> updating each object

What do you say would be a good idea?

On Fri 13 Oct, 2017, 17:03 Chetan H A,  wrote:

> Srihari, makes sense. I wonder how to get back deleted old names and add
> it in old_name tag in one go like you added?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Srihari Thalla 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Back in May 2017, we have updated the name tags of merged Associate State
>> Banks from their old names (State Bank of xxx) to the new name, "State Bank
>> of India".
>>
>> We have identified and tracked the entries in a spreadsheet [1]. I have
>> updated many entries.
>> However, I forgot to add the old_name tag with the old name (State Bank
>> of xxx) and just updated the name tag to State Bank of India.
>>
>> I think it is good to have the old names in the old_name tag as people
>> might still remember the banks with their old names.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Srihari
>>
>> [1] -
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17VXVWQVF1rujmQiSQVrXiTOi2sRImh29I2JCGWCKaxc/edit#gid=1622201629
>>
>> talk-in Discussions
>> [1] -
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-April/002862.html
>> [2] -
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2017-May/002888.html
>>
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Re: [Talk-in] Earth on AWS

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This is amazing!

On Sun 5 Nov, 2017, 22:27 Shrinivasan T,  wrote:

> Explore Amazon's stuff on geo spacial field.
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Need all the district details of India

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Hi Thej,

Here is the query : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Cxv

This is what I did :
1. Open the Wizard tool
2. type:relation and admin_level=5 and name:kn=* in India
3. Hit Build and run. If you encounter timeout, increase the same in the
generated query.

Hope this helps!

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> Dear All,
> I am trying to get all the district level. See if this query is okay?
>
> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Cxq
>
> I am getting this
>
> *An error occured during the execution of the overpass query! This is what
> overpass API returned:*
>
> *runtime error: Query ran out of memory in "query" at line 6. It would
> need at least 0 MB of RAM to continue.*
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>
> Is there any smarter way to do this?
>
> I am doing this to check the status of Kannada translation (name:kn).
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