Re: [Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-30 Thread H.S.Rai
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote:

 I have an Android phone. I do not pay anything for GPS service. It is free,
 gets a fix within 15-20 seconds, and typically gives me 4 metre accuracy in
 the city.

Is it will GPS or A-GPS? It seems this much quick fix is only possible
through A-GPS. With you plan for GPRS, use of A-GPS may be free.

Update on my purchase:

Blue tooth does not work on LG GW620.

Salesman confirmed after consulting someone that A-GPS requires Internet.

So with limited time and energy to compare and explore, I purchased
Nokia 5800 XpressMusic.

Has A-GPS and GPS, A-GPS work only through GPRS, and not through WiFi.

Though Symbian is OpenSource, and Gammu support maximum handsets from
Nokia, but for this model it support only info.

http://wammu.eu/phones/nokia/?page=3
http://wammu.eu/phones/nokia/2929/

So using this mobile on Linux PC/Laptop is not possible, sad :-( and
my bad luck.

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Re: [Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:43 AM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote:

 Is it will GPS or A-GPS? It seems this much quick fix is only possible
 through A-GPS. With you plan for GPRS, use of A-GPS may be free.


It is AGPS. The assisting is done via Google's location services, which
incidentally is what Firefox also uses for its geolocation API. Here's their
explanation: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/geolocation/


 Has A-GPS and GPS, A-GPS work only through GPRS, and not through WiFi.


That is correct. On Android, your cell tower information is automatically
sent to Google to determine location (this is a preference setting and is
turned off by default), so the phone always knows where it is.

If you use Google Maps on Nokia, it uses Google's location services. If
you're using Nokia's map app, they may have their own service provider.

Of late, I've noticed that I'm getting geolocation on my home wifi network
too. I suspect this is because Google has recorded a strong correlation
between my GPRS location and my wifi SSID.
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Re: [Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Ajay Shah ajays...@mayin.org wrote:

 And this works in India also?
 I.e. google knows all the cell towers of India?


Yes. Works perfectly everywhere I've tried, India and out.
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[Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-29 Thread H.S.Rai
For mapping mobiles with GPS are seems to be good resource. My question is:

It seems that Android will rule and Linux bases mobiles may not become
a reality.

Can A-GPS be used as GPS?

Background of this question is as:

In market there are many Android (unable to find Linux bases) based mobiles:

LG GW620 Rs. 15500/-
Samsung Glaxy Spica GT i5700 13000/-
Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 31500/-

All are having A-GPS, and sales man says one need to subscribe and pay
monthly for use of navigational through A-GPS.

However, my impression is that A-GPS should also be able to used as
GPS (not working indoor and long fixing time), but sales person can
confirm that.

Is there anyone who uses A-GPS as GPS and confirm that A-GPS on such
mobiles can be used as GPS or vendor has restricted that option.

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Re: [Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-29 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:20 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote:

 For mapping mobiles with GPS are seems to be good resource. My question is:

 It seems that Android will rule and Linux bases mobiles may not become
 a reality.

 Can A-GPS be used as GPS?


I have an Android phone. I do not pay anything for GPS service. It is free,
gets a fix within 15-20 seconds, and typically gives me 4 metre accuracy in
the city.

My old Garmin eTrex Legend takes at least 2 minutes to get a fix, 5 or more
if in a new location, and gives me 8-20 metre accuracy.

The Android phone is so good as a GPS that I bought an extended battery to
go with it.
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