Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
On Friday 19 Dec 2014 7:59:50 AM Aditya Nag wrote: I didn't know that there were plans to launch OSM India website! Count me in as another volunteer for developing it. I know a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but I'll learn along the way. :D Cheers, Aditya Nag We did a trial mapping of trees on an instance of opentreemap at http://trees.metastudio.org/mumbai yesterday. We mapped about 50 trees, and will be doing many more during this month. the Procedure that we followed, one hour of field on the street with fieldpapers to mark the positions of the trees, and then we returned to the lab and mapped the trees with name and address. Will update the documentation on the site and will be keeping the site ready for the use of several volunteers who will join from 13th onwards. -- GN ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
In Bangalore, some of us coordinate an annual tree festival called Neralu (meaning shade in kannada). There have been several efforts in Bangalore on mapping avenue trees and it would be nice if the same platform is extended to other cities as well. More details about Neralu here: http://neralu.in Anush On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: On Friday 19 Dec 2014 7:59:50 AM Aditya Nag wrote: I didn't know that there were plans to launch OSM India website! Count me in as another volunteer for developing it. I know a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but I'll learn along the way. :D Cheers, Aditya Nag We did a trial mapping of trees on an instance of opentreemap at http://trees.metastudio.org/mumbai yesterday. We mapped about 50 trees, and will be doing many more during this month. the Procedure that we followed, one hour of field on the street with fieldpapers to mark the positions of the trees, and then we returned to the lab and mapped the trees with name and address. Will update the documentation on the site and will be keeping the site ready for the use of several volunteers who will join from 13th onwards. -- GN ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/07/2015 02:43 PM, Nagarjuna G wrote: On Friday 19 Dec 2014 7:59:50 AM Aditya Nag wrote: I didn't know that there were plans to launch OSM India website! Count me in as another volunteer for developing it. I know a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but I'll learn along the way. :D Cheers, Aditya Nag We did a trial mapping of trees on an instance of opentreemap at http://trees.metastudio.org/mumbai yesterday. It is using google maps.! Was it supposed to be on OSM layer.?! regards, yogi -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUrPvcAAoJEHbIEpOTpdD8QGEH+gOO9DocgZqGnrh7OxyH7i/c J6KJr2lBBvFF9IlNssUK5THCZGRqx9CbFSDBUSv83fRbThLvQayUxTBkKVJPW4wf gnb/+IHmr3cIroz88CukoZ1KrOoadZijc/NewIoEhQ04PE+dSKdvwBA/0Av3KTgr moCCPyrMSWkEvmeC9novUlKAy8fTJ1Paxpwgp6DLqYt5+gMUPvsnZVwozp37meih lmjL1feJ5K6Xa1Xoa2X6hhiMn2aCSgCC4pWBbZxokN6ebRZta20OPVoEUJf4/67s zGYeMQe8oVNdHqgrhuEa6vKibsRomlg9fQBFLcVrT6Rgpd0xZ96wHUoJErB49VE= =/0OD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
Arun... I had already set up a tile service a long time back if you recall?? http://14.139.123.10/osm/slippymap.html It's broken now though. Would be happy to get things running full throttle again. :) Yes! Also, to make things easier, we could just reuse the osm rails port: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website -- GN ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Regards, Johnson Chetty -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
On Sunday 14 Dec 2014 10:40:38 PM Arun Ganesh wrote: No volunteers. Instructions are this I think: http://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ I don't mind giving it a shot if someone is willing to risk their server in my untrained hands :) After my return from Trivandrum on 21st, I will handover the server. Meanwhile, if Johnsone can help in this that will be great. -- GN ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
On Sunday 14 Dec 2014 6:57:35 PM Arun Ganesh wrote: Hi GN, this is awesome, can you share more details on the project and how others can participate? yes. give me a week, the website is getting ready. We will be starting this project with a question to investigate. The question is to know the serial killer of rain treen in Mumbai. About 400 trees died in the last 3-4 years. So, initially we will be mapping all the rain trees in the city and its suburbs. We will have about a hundred volunteers and we expect to finish rain tree mapping by the end of January. And the investigation will continue. 1. when we add a tree, we also add its name etc. however, this information does not appear. The tree dot is visible but does not have any info. One has to go to edit interface to check the information added. How to go about this? We'll need to make a custom rendering style for this. Nobody seems to have looked into this yet. This is not a show stopper now, but eventually it will be good to have the information. I will not focus on this issue at all. This is just to say, what do we need in OSM. 2. under the type of trees, we would like to add some more types. is this possible? how to go about doing this? Looks like this list can be expanded in the iD editor code: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/blob/master/data/presets/fields/tree_typ e.json You can see the list of commonly used tree tags at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree which could be helpful for the mappers. I looked at this. We need to record some additional type of information. e.g. if there is any pest found on the tree. name of the pest: This is important for us since the rain trees are dying because of a pest called meal worm. The other thing is to note if the tree is situated at a cemented land or open land. If one of you can help getting this extra information, or tell us how to pursue this with OSM, that will be good. Or else, if you guys can setup a separate server for this, that is always the best. btw, what happened to the idea of setting up of a osm.in? -- GN ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
This is not a show stopper now, but eventually it will be good to have the information. I will not focus on this issue at all. This is just to say, what do we need in OSM. It is actually possible to view the full metadata of objects by using the query feature tool on osm.org (The question mark on the right side of the map) http://www.openstreetmap.org/query?lat=19.04236lon=72.92798 I looked at this. We need to record some additional type of information. e.g. if there is any pest found on the tree. name of the pest: This is important for us since the rain trees are dying because of a pest called meal worm. The other thing is to note if the tree is situated at a cemented land or open land. If one of you can help getting this extra information, or tell us how to pursue this with OSM, that will be good. Or else, if you guys can setup a separate server for this, that is always the best. There is nothing that stops us from defining our own key/value pair for this purpose and using it. Example: disease:meal_worm disease:fungus foundation:concrete foundation:dirt To add such custom tags to objects, once you select an object in the editor, you will see the tag dictionary on the bottom of the left pane. I have added such a tag to a tree as an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2568585l018 btw, what happened to the idea of setting up of a osm.in? No volunteers. Instructions are this I think: http://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ I don't mind giving it a shot if someone is willing to risk their server in my untrained hands :) http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] mapping trees
Hi We are beginning a project starting 6th of Jan to map trees in Mumbai, and later we will spread this to other areas in the country as well. Some questions regarding the preparedness of OSM for this purpose. 1. when we add a tree, we also add its name etc. however, this information does not appear. The tree dot is visible but does not have any info. One has to go to edit interface to check the information added. How to go about this? 2. under the type of trees, we would like to add some more types. is this possible? how to go about doing this? any help will be appreciated. -- GN BEGIN:VCARD ADR;TYPE=pref;TYPE=work:;;HBCSE\, TIFR\, V.N. Purav Marg;Mankhurd;Mumbai;40 0088;India EMAIL:nagar...@gnowledge.org FN:Nagarjuna GEO:19.042400;72.926613 N:Nagarjuna NICKNAME:gnowgi UID:0b76662d-9808-41d1-a0d5-f9417eb710fb URL:http://www.metastudio.org/gnowledgeLab/ VERSION:3.0 X-KADDRESSBOOK-BlogFeed:http://gnowgi.org/ END:VCARD ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
On 13 Dec 2014 00:32, I Chengappa imchenga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi GN Tree species or other detailed data are somewhat a niche bit of information for what started off as road mapping software. Hence the standard renderer does not show it, as it also does not show a lot of the other info added, for instance population of towns, et.c. A specialised renderer would need to be created to display such data. Maybe this can be done using a stylesheet with some of the existing render software. For editing purposes, as you can see at http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles there is a stylesheet for JOSM that will display the spread of the tree, and I imagine it can also be modified to show the name, species or other information. (It might be of interest to read this contribution by the writer of that stylesheet - https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/AndrewBuck/diary/17551) I'm not sure what you mean by type? There is no tag shown under this name at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree . Trees would ideally be shown by their botanic name (genus and species, or taxon), at least the genus part of it. And these should be botanically correct, e.g. genus=Cocos. If it is not known, then the 'name' tag could be used with a common name, e.g. name=coconut. On 12 December 2014 at 17:02, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: Hi We are beginning a project starting 6th of Jan to map trees in Mumbai, and later we will spread this to other areas in the country as well. Some questions regarding the preparedness of OSM for this purpose. 1. when we add a tree, we also add its name etc. however, this information does not appear. The tree dot is visible but does not have any info. One has to go to edit interface to check the information added. How to go about this? 2. under the type of trees, we would like to add some more types. is this possible? how to go about doing this? any help will be appreciated. -- GN There is OpenTreeMap (OTM) which is an app that does the same. . I think the data can be ported back to osm. I had set up an OTM instance a while back. I did not check the import to OSM though. __ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] mapping trees
On 13 Dec 2014 00:32, I Chengappa imchenga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi GN Tree species or other detailed data are somewhat a niche bit of information for what started off as road mapping software. Hence the standard renderer does not show it, as it also does not show a lot of the other info added, for instance population of towns, et.c. A specialised renderer would need to be created to display such data. Maybe this can be done using a stylesheet with some of the existing render software. For editing purposes, as you can see at http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles there is a stylesheet for JOSM that will display the spread of the tree, and I imagine it can also be modified to show the name, species or other information. (It might be of interest to read this contribution by the writer of that stylesheet - https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/AndrewBuck/diary/17551) I'm not sure what you mean by type? There is no tag shown under this name at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree . Trees would ideally be shown by their botanic name (genus and species, or taxon), at least the genus part of it. And these should be botanically correct, e.g. genus=Cocos. If it is not known, then the 'name' tag could be used with a common name, e.g. name=coconut. On 12 December 2014 at 17:02, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: Hi We are beginning a project starting 6th of Jan to map trees in Mumbai, and later we will spread this to other areas in the country as well. Some questions regarding the preparedness of OSM for this purpose. 1. when we add a tree, we also add its name etc. however, this information does not appear. The tree dot is visible but does not have any info. One has to go to edit interface to check the information added. How to go about this? 2. under the type of trees, we would like to add some more types. is this possible? how to go about doing this? any help will be appreciated. -- GN There is OpenTreeMap (OTM) which is an app that does the same. . I think the data can be ported back to osm. I had set up an OTM instance a while back. I did not check the import to OSM though. __ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
