Re: [Talk-it] Classification of important bypass roads
Direi trunk. Sopratutto se non ci puoi andare a piedi / in bicicletta (superstrada). Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Classification of important bypass roads
> 1) Construction-wise the street should be considered to be a trunk-road (as > it has exits and driveways, no at-grade intersections with other roads, > etc.). IMHO primary seems to be ok, too. > 2) Importance level: The road has - of course - local importance > (classification: tertiary). The regional importance is also huge > (classification: secondary). But the bypass is also connecting the SS12 which > ends in the southern part of the city and re-beginns in the north > (classification: primary). > > I would classify the whole complex of streets as primary. So everyone can see > the importance of that bypass on the map, and routing programms are able to > prefer that route, etc. > I would classify it as primary, too. In Viareggio [1], where I live, there is a similar road, that is "Variante Aurelia". It bypasses the centre and connects SS1 Aurelia from South to North, even if in Viareggio we have a "Via Aurelia" that cuts in the middle of the city. Variante Aurelia has no at-grade intersections, two lanes per direction and separate tracks, as in your case. It would be preferrable for routing programs as well. The only difference, I think, is that in your case it is a "comunal road", wheras in my case the signs on the Variante are SS1 on blue background, and these signs also indicate kilometers from Rome, just if it was the SS1 Aurelia indeed. Be sure to see how the signs are placed along that road, but by the way, even if they don't indicate explicitly SS12 (and road signs have a white - comunal - background), I would map the road as primary, given its importance and physical characteristics. Ciao Ste [1] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.87241&lon=10.27059&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF// ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Classification of important bypass roads
Ciao lista! I'm writing to you in English because my Italian is - let's say - a bit rusty. But feel free to answer in Italian: I'll understand it. Now on topic: In the city where I live (Bolzano/Bozen in Alto Adige/Südtirol) there is a bypass road (circonvallazione) wich is a little bit tricky to classify. Me and another mapper were very uncertain how to classify this street. I'll try explain you why: This is the area where the road is located: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.47727&lon=11.32995&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF The bypass is constructed a little bit complicatedly and is more a complex of different streets: It beginns right after the motorway exit "Bolzano Sud" and immediately splits up into two oneway tracks which take different routes through the industrial zone of Bolzano. The trackes have two or three lanes per direction. Just before the "Virgl Tunnel" the two tracks re-unite and continue as the "Stadale dell'Abetone e del Brennero SS12" to the north. The street-complex is used by people for several things: Its main purpose is to bypass the city when someone comes from South (on the A22 or SS12) or West (on the trunk road "MeBo") and you have to reach the region in the north of Bolzano or vice versa. It is also a "part" (or connecting piece) of the SS12 (although it is officially a communal road - I think). But the bypass is also used to reach the industrial zone and the center of Bolzano when comming from every direction. The following classifications are possible: 1) Construction-wise the street should be considered to be a trunk-road (as it has exits and driveways, no at-grade intersections with other roads, etc.). IMHO primary seems to be ok, too. 2) Importance level: The road has - of course - local importance (classification: tertiary). The regional importance is also huge (classification: secondary). But the bypass is also connecting the SS12 which ends in the southern part of the city and re-beginns in the north (classification: primary). 3) The "rule" on the Italian version of the "Map Features" in the OSM-wiki would classify a "strada a scorrimento veloce" as tertiary. (That "rule" is in my opinion rubbish, but I don't want to start a discussion on this - for now) I found some more or less similar situations in the map. (Its difficult to find very good examples because the rest of the world does the classification quite differently than we do and larger cities tend to have only motorways as real bypasses). *) Verona in general, for example the "Viale delle Nazioni" from "Verona Sud" ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.40053&lon=10.97451&zoom=15&layers=B000FTF ) *) The "Südring" of Klagenfurt ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.6358&lon=14.309&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF ) *) Rimini ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.0521&lon=12.574&zoom=13&layers=B000FTF ) I would classify the whole complex of streets as primary. So everyone can see the importance of that bypass on the map, and routing programms are able to prefer that route, etc. What do you say to this situation? And more importantly: How should similar bypass roads be classified in general? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Edicole (kiosk)
Carlo Stemberger ha scritto: > Il 25/04/2009 01:23, Luigi Toscano ha scritto: > >> Giovanni Fasano wrote: >> >> >>> Che facciamo ? Lo riproponiamo? O per il momento ci limitiamo ad usarlo ? >>> :-) >>> >>> >> Entrambe, direi. Avevo chiesto qualche tempo fa, anche per il discorso >> dei chioschi, ma senza molto successo. >> >> >> >> > Scrivete, scrivete: mettete mano al wiki, avete tutto il mio appoggio. > > Notte > > > Carlo > > Ho fatto la richiesta e aggiornato la pagina [1] della wiki [1] - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Newsagent ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Merkaartor
Salve a tutti, da un po' di tempo sto utilizzando MERKAARTOR V0.13.1 e mi sono accorto che quando faccio upload spesso e volentieri mi compare questo errore THERE WAS AN ERROR UPLOADING THIS REQUEST(409).SERVER MESSAGE IS "CONFLICT". Premetto che ho poca esperienza di mapping Grazie per l'aiuto. Roberto Groppi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
