Re: [OSM-talk] Hard Mapping / Roller coaster Log

2009-04-03 Per discussione Michel Barakat
Nice! I just wonder what did you tag this as.
dizzyness = high ?

Michel

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Kinya Inoue ikiya.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ikiya/traces/346271

 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9tw89LwNH4A/SdNnRbRmGxI/BAw/oPlF9yrKNE4/s1600-h/jc0904.jpg

 Enjoy,

 Ikiya

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Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing

2009-03-20 Per discussione Michel Barakat
 I'm particularly interested in the USSD functions, I've not really heard 
 about them before, I may wander over to the OpenMoko mailing lists, and see 
 if they know any thing about it :)
Afaik, USSD channels are controlled by the mobile operator. I believe
all devices support USSD but you'll need the operator's
approval/agreement to deploy any application over these channels.

 I would not preclude payed for work to be honest.
There's actually already been an ongoing attempt to citizen mapping,
paying citizens to add missing POIs on a map. See
http://www.gisdevelopment.net/news/viewn.asp?id=GIS:N_zqjpnrxcah

Full disclosure: I am exploring the gaming aspect of such an
application. In this case, the reward would not be a payment but
climbing up the high score board instead.
We might be able to get a lot of information out of ordinary users,
who are not necessarily GIS experts, through having them play a game
on their mobile phones. These include for example the location of new
POIs, filling in missing street names or simply verifying the
correctness of the current database content.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Reverse look-up gazetteer

2009-03-19 Per discussione Michel Barakat
Take a look at the GeoNames.org web service:
http://www.geonames.org/export/ws-overview.html
I didn't play with it yet, but I believe it can achieve what you're asking for.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:01 PM, paul youlten p...@yellowikis.org wrote:
 Does anyone know if there is there a web service that lets me take the
 latitude and longitude of a node and establish which country,
 state/county/province, city and Zip/post code the node is in?

 PaulY
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 Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807

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Re: [OSM-talk] 3rd world croud-sourcing

2009-03-19 Per discussione Michel Barakat
Looks very promising.
Something similar could be implemented for OpenStreetMap but instead
of paying the users, we would need to find an alternative mean of
rewarding their work.

2009/3/19 Douglas Furlong douglas.furl...@gmail.com:
 Some thing that may be of interest regarding the possible use of mobile
 phones in the third world.

 http://blip.tv/file/1868958

 Doug

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Re: [OSM-talk] new 'A year of edits' images available and some new 'santa's routes'!

2009-03-09 Per discussione Michel Barakat
Thanks for sharing the imagery.
Particularly enjoyed exploring the changes for the eastern Mediterranean basin.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:

 I have updated our 'A year of edits images' for various parts of the
 world in this Flickr set:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/sets/72157610770048763/

 The USA image shows huge progress in comparison to the same image for
 October:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/3087316306/in/set-72157610770048763/

 South America has been very active as well:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/2808008345/in/set-72157610770048763/

 When doing this I noticed some new 'santa's routes' (big scribble
 lines across whole countries) which could do with being tracked down.

 This image of Africa shows one and there is also one on the South
 America image:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/peterito/2808006399/in/set-72157610770048763/



 Regards,


 Peter



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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] avoid repeating the name tag twice

2009-03-07 Per discussione Michel Barakat
We're facing a similar issue for mapping in neighboring Lebanon. In
addition to English, we use Arabic and French so we end up having four
name tags: 'name', 'name:en', 'name:fr', 'name:ar'
The name tag is a duplicate of one of the three languages depending on
the road or POI in question, we have some POIs with English names,
French or Arabic, not accounting for some two of three other languages
used in certain areas. Similarly to the example of Belgium, canceling
the 'name' tag all together, and defaulting to the country language is
not suitable. Language should be set per element.

 But I prefer not to enter the same name twice, but to point the name tag to 
 the name:lang.
I support the idea of not having to repeat twice the same name. It is
an extra cost that might incur additional unnecessary risk of error
when creating or modifying the tags.

 A possibility would be to never use name=, but only name:XX= and
 have a tag name:local=XX in order to indicate which is the local one.
 For rendering, a default rule could be that if there is only one
 name:XX=xxx without name:local=... then it will use the name:XX whatever
 XX is.
Good idea but we should make sure that name:local=XX is correct, that
is 'name:xx' exists among the possible name choices. Otherwise you
will end up with inconsistency. In terms of deployment, I don't think
the community will approve canceling the 'name' tag completely.

So an alternative plausible solution could be to have a mechanism
which refers to one of the name:xx, such as Tal has suggested. We
could agree on some escape character that is used inside the tag
content ($ or \ or whatever is not commonly used). We would have
something like that:
name=$(name:fr)
name:fr=French Here
name:en=English Here
name:ar=Arabic Here

Another possibility, which looks more like a hack, is to simply
describe the language of the 'name' tag. So we could have a tag
'name:local=xx' describing the language of the 'name' tag. For the
same example above, it would look like that:
name=French Here
name:local=fr
name:en=English Here
name:ar=Arabic Here

In that case, we would not need the 'name:fr' tag to be explicitly
expressed. The rendered though would need to be modified to realize
its existence.

Cheers
Michel

On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Tal tal@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Pierre-André Jacquod
 pjacq...@alumni.ethz.ch wrote:

  I would, however, like to set a default language to the renderer using
      name=$(name:he)
  or something equivalent, for the default international map on the osm
  site.
 I am not aware of such a feature for the current tools. I fear a problem
 could be that $(name:he) is also a valid name somewhere else in the
 world (with an other font than Latin...)


 I believe otherwise. I think that in the age of unicode $(name:he) will
 always be the same, regardless of the font you use, as long as you stick to
 unicode. I believe that this site uses utf-8 which is a unicode encoding.
 Therefore, $(name:he) will always be a dollar sign and  parenthesis around
 some Latin letters.





 I like this idea!
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Re: [OSM-talk] whereami not working on nokia 5800 express music

2009-02-20 Per discussione Michel Barakat
Hey Vivek,

Before you install the signable build, you need to manually sign it
on https://www.symbiansigned.com/app/page.
I think I've tried that approach but it didn't work for me.

I suggest you try the signed version instead. I am currently using
the following version on an N95, and it's working well:
http://www.symbianos.org/files/sis/whereami_0.13_s60_v3.sis

Cheers
Michel

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Vivek Khurana hiddenharm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:


 I am no expert, but unsigned did not work for me on E 71 - signed worked out
 of the box

  When I tried to install signable build - It throws an error
 Certificate error please contact application provider. When I
 install the other SV3 build, it crashes after launch.
  5800 uses symbian S60 fifth edition instead of third, can that be a problem ?

 regards
 Vivek

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