Re: [OSM-talk] Cyclopath wiki bicycle map

2010-05-16 Per discussione Reid Priedhorsky
Steve Bennett wrote:
 
 On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Reid Priedhorsky r...@umn.edu wrote:
 Anyway, I mostly wanted to say hi and let you all know we are here. If
 you have any questions, ask and I will reply here on the list.
 
 Hi Reid. Just wondering if/when this project will expand outside
 Minnesota? Also, and I haven't really been following this thread, how
 does it integrate with OSM, and could it integrate better? Seems a
 pity to collect information twice...

Hi Steve,

Short answer, we have active plans to expand and should have some news 
within the next few weeks. The model we are following is the Craigslist 
island model, i.e. focusing on adding metro areas and regions one by 
one (as opposed to expanding in a big circle from Minneapolis).

Currently, we do not integrate with OSM at all, and I agree with you. In 
terms of data sharing OSM to Cyclopath, we are leery of the OSM 
licensing mess and hesitate to get involved. The other way round would 
work fine (a previous poster gave our data license as CC, but actually 
we have broad freedom to share the data under general openness goals).

I'd also be interested in how we might move towards sharing tool chains 
and things. I believe the key issues here might be data complexity (we 
have a lot more types of features and relationships than just ways) and 
all the fiddly little choices that are made differently between two 
independent projects.

Reid

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[OSM-talk] Cyclopath wiki bicycle map (was: Philosophy about Autorouting for Cyclists and new key class:bicycle)

2010-05-13 Per discussione Reid Priedhorsky
On Tue, 04 May 2010 13:35:40 -0700, David Fawcett wrote:
 
 You may be interested in the CycloPath project.  http://cyclopath.org/
 
 It is an OSM-like project for bicycle routes in Minneapolis - St.
 Paul, Minnesota, USA.  A user can edit the cycle 'ways' and rate
 preferences for different ways.  CycloPath can then generate
 preferable routes for that user.

Hi all,

Forgive me for parachuting in. I'm the project leader for Cyclopath, and 
a Google Alert for that search term led me to this thread.

Cyclopath does do subjective routing, in two ways. First, cyclists can 
rate the bikeability of roads and trails on a block-by-block basis, and 
these preferences are taken into account when routing. Second, when you 
request a route, you can give requirements in terms of bikeability vs. 
distance and which tags you prefer and disprefer. I believe this is the 
same subjective-over-objective philosophy another commenter in this 
thread recommended.

We also support a number of annotations within the map: collaboratively 
edited notes and tags (where tags are the traditional definition: words 
or phrases that are attached to a map feature), bikeability ratings, and 
we recently added discussions to the map.

Cyclopath is a research project and has led to several well-received 
papers in the human-computer interaction and collaborative systems 
domains. See http://reidster.net/papers.html for more.

Anyway, I mostly wanted to say hi and let you all know we are here. If 
you have any questions, ask and I will reply here on the list.

Thanks!

Reid

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