Re: [Talk-ko] Broken (multi)polygons in Korea

2017-03-19 Thread Max

Quite difficult i must say.

http://maproulette.org/map/2420/2050730
Just to say that the riverbed is mapped in a detail that is useless 
because it represents the waterlevel and riverbed at the time of the 
satellite image. There are so many occlusions and little islands, it's 
almost easier to start over.


The outer riverbank has now 5 outer relations, not sure if this is 
supposed to be like that.


I used JOSM to merge the overlapping polygons and then ID rying to fix 
the islands that disappeared in the process.


I think I better leave this kind of stuff to others.


On 2017년 03월 19일 14:46, Jochen Topf wrote:

Thanks, Andrew!

in my newest batch of Maproulette challenges, I have included a special
challenge for Korea, because there were so many problems there.

I encourage everbody to help:
http://area.jochentopf.com/fixing.html#duplicate-segments-in-closed-ways

Jochen

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:02:57PM +0900, Andrew Errington wrote:

Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:02:57 +0900
From: Andrew Errington 
To: OpenStreetMap Korea 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] Broken (multi)polygons in Korea

Ok.  I contacted who I thought was the most prolific mapper of forest
outlines.  They said they did it as quickly as possible because it was
important for Koreans to see forested areas on the map.  Now they are
reviewing and improving those polygons.

Best wishes,

Andrew

On Mar 15, 2017 5:24 PM, "Andrew Errington"  wrote:

As far as I know there has been no import of forest area data.  There is a
prolific mapper who has made rough outlines of forested areas.  Some of
these areas overlap with others.  Some areas intersect with themselves.  I
don't think each area represents anything "on the ground", just a
convenient chunk to draw a line around.

I will contact that mapper and ask about his or her methodology.  There are
other "large area mappers" too.

Best wishes,

Andrew

On Mar 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Jochen Topf"  wrote:

Hi!

there are quite a lot of broken (multi)polygons in the OSM data. I have
started an effort to clean them up. You can find out more at
http://area.jochentopf.com

I found that there are many problems with self-intersections in South
Korea, often on forests. You can see this here:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=128.02487&lat=36.21680&zoom=8

Was there some kind of import? Can you, the Korean community, help with
fixing them? How good is that forest data anyway? Is it worth cleaning
up? I'd appreciate any information and help.

If you are interested, I can also create special Maproulette challenges
or create special data extracts or so to help the Korean community clean
this up?

Jochen
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Re: [Talk-ko] Broken (multi)polygons in Korea

2017-03-19 Thread Jochen Topf
Thanks, Andrew!

in my newest batch of Maproulette challenges, I have included a special
challenge for Korea, because there were so many problems there.

I encourage everbody to help:
http://area.jochentopf.com/fixing.html#duplicate-segments-in-closed-ways

Jochen

On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:02:57PM +0900, Andrew Errington wrote:
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:02:57 +0900
> From: Andrew Errington 
> To: OpenStreetMap Korea 
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] Broken (multi)polygons in Korea
> 
> Ok.  I contacted who I thought was the most prolific mapper of forest
> outlines.  They said they did it as quickly as possible because it was
> important for Koreans to see forested areas on the map.  Now they are
> reviewing and improving those polygons.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On Mar 15, 2017 5:24 PM, "Andrew Errington"  wrote:
> 
> As far as I know there has been no import of forest area data.  There is a
> prolific mapper who has made rough outlines of forested areas.  Some of
> these areas overlap with others.  Some areas intersect with themselves.  I
> don't think each area represents anything "on the ground", just a
> convenient chunk to draw a line around.
> 
> I will contact that mapper and ask about his or her methodology.  There are
> other "large area mappers" too.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On Mar 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Jochen Topf"  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> there are quite a lot of broken (multi)polygons in the OSM data. I have
> started an effort to clean them up. You can find out more at
> http://area.jochentopf.com
> 
> I found that there are many problems with self-intersections in South
> Korea, often on forests. You can see this here:
> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=128.02487&lat=36.21680&zoom=8
> 
> Was there some kind of import? Can you, the Korean community, help with
> fixing them? How good is that forest data anyway? Is it worth cleaning
> up? I'd appreciate any information and help.
> 
> If you are interested, I can also create special Maproulette challenges
> or create special data extracts or so to help the Korean community clean
> this up?
> 
> Jochen
> --
> Jochen Topf  joc...@remote.org  https://www.jochentopf.com/
> +49-351-31778688
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Re: [Talk-ko] OSM Talk-ko must use English?

2017-03-19 Thread Andrew Errington
By the way, I already mentioned this on the list, but if someone can write
a short paragraph in Korean with a description of the mailing list purpose
and a statement that Korean and English language is welcome I can put it on
the list subscription page.  I will include an English translation.

One paragraph, three or four sentences would be fine.

Thanks,

Andrew

On Mar 18, 2017 10:30 AM, "Andrew Errington"  wrote:

> Hello, and welcome to talk-ko.
>
> Talk-ko is not English-only.  It's ok to use Korean on this mailing list.
>
> But, OSM is a worldwide project, so there are a lot of non-Korean speakers
> contributing to OSM in every country, including Korea.  The most common
> language​ between mappers from different countries is English.
>
> Please do post messages in Korean here and discuss things.  If you want
> opinions from more people then post in English too.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2017 7:07 AM, "김석종"  wrote:
>
> I am newcomer of OSMproject. So I have not been talk-ko long. But I can
> not understand why they use English only.
> A lot of people came in because of Pokémon Go. But OSM wiki does not have
> many Korean posts. So they can use talk-ko but newcomer who can not speak
> English well, They can not use it.
> If the talk-ko rule have 'use English', please notice me.
>
> Sincerely
>
> smaroid
> The OSM project user
>
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Re: [Talk-ko] Broken (multi)polygons in Korea

2017-03-19 Thread Andrew Errington
Ok.  I contacted who I thought was the most prolific mapper of forest
outlines.  They said they did it as quickly as possible because it was
important for Koreans to see forested areas on the map.  Now they are
reviewing and improving those polygons.

Best wishes,

Andrew

On Mar 15, 2017 5:24 PM, "Andrew Errington"  wrote:

As far as I know there has been no import of forest area data.  There is a
prolific mapper who has made rough outlines of forested areas.  Some of
these areas overlap with others.  Some areas intersect with themselves.  I
don't think each area represents anything "on the ground", just a
convenient chunk to draw a line around.

I will contact that mapper and ask about his or her methodology.  There are
other "large area mappers" too.

Best wishes,

Andrew

On Mar 15, 2017 4:58 PM, "Jochen Topf"  wrote:

Hi!

there are quite a lot of broken (multi)polygons in the OSM data. I have
started an effort to clean them up. You can find out more at
http://area.jochentopf.com

I found that there are many problems with self-intersections in South
Korea, often on forests. You can see this here:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=128.02487&lat=36.21680&zoom=8

Was there some kind of import? Can you, the Korean community, help with
fixing them? How good is that forest data anyway? Is it worth cleaning
up? I'd appreciate any information and help.

If you are interested, I can also create special Maproulette challenges
or create special data extracts or so to help the Korean community clean
this up?

Jochen
--
Jochen Topf  joc...@remote.org  https://www.jochentopf.com/
+49-351-31778688

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