Re: [talk-ph] request edit for this month (coastline)
Caluya and sibay Islands On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:17 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: What are the common tags used for marine features? The map features seems too land-centric (for good reasons) but I think for archipelagic countries we need to map marine features as well. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: An interesting link, I am looking at it now. FYI, I have started experimentally mapping coral reef edges visible on landsat with a subsea=coral_reef way tag. I'd welcome anyone else to join in and share thoughts. I feel there should be a high-level subsea= tag to map point, lineal and area features that are always or normally underwater. The other main value I've started using is subsea=channel, name= for names of channels, sounds and straits gleaned from out-of-copyright maps. Mike At 03:05 AM 26/02/2009, maning sambale wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For some excellent OC-OC tips on island mapping look here:http://www.evs-islands.com/ Mr. Minton previously used only LANDSAT data for his highly accurateisland maps. Some reefs are visible in LANDSAT. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Eureka!!! it worked na. And the newer version is so so much better pa! lalo na naman akong ginanahan! I will help with the coast lines. In fact even with Yahoo pa lang I did some coastline refining na especially in Anilao, Tingloy and Maricaban. And now, my alma mater reef: ligpo! :) ed On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Can you try the latest josm version? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Maning, Still can't get the wmsplugin to load in my JOSM ... always comes up with the message could not load plugin wmsplugin. delete from preferences? help! :) ed On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: whew! finally finished masbate. Next will be Sibuyan! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:47 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I did for Ticao Island: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?zoom=11lat=12.51694lon=123.72751layers=B00T On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:44 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, An appeal for editing this Month (February 2009). Coastline clean-up. We have one of the most extensive coastlines in the world. Currently OSM Philippines' coastline is a very rough import we made a few years back using medium resolution SRTM data. A lot of very small islands are not included in the SRTM import. I have started editing coastlines around Visayas (Biliran, Ticao and Masbate). I request all Philippine mappers to adapt a few island and give them some coastline love. You can easily do this with landsat imagery (available both on potlatch, josm, and merkaator). For very large Ï°- lZb landmasses like Luzon or Mindanao please split coastlines into manageable segments. Links to coastline editing: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- -- cheers,maning--Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Brandenwiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/-- ___talk-ph mailing listtalk...@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ --
[talk-ph] Tagging marine features (was: request edit for this month (coastline))
I've changed the subject to avoid hijacking the original thread. As Manning suggests, this is something we the Philippines OSM community can take a lead in. So far, I've not come up with a very large subsea list. Over the weekend I'll try and dig up a list of what GNS uses and how I have mapped some of them to new OSM tags. I have a strong background in marine earth science but zero feeling for what the yachting, boating and shipping community would like to see (sea?!) on maps so any comments on that very welcome. Another tag I have started using is name=xxx, place=archipelago for a group of islands. I can then tag islands with an extra is_in:archipelago=xxx tag. This generally works well except when there is a small group of islands inside a larger one. This then needs an island to be tagged with something like is_in:archipelago=Visayas;xxx which is a bit awkward. Mike At 03:17 AM 27/02/2009, maning sambale wrote: What are the common tags used for marine features? The map features seems too land-centric (for good reasons) but I think for archipelagic countries we need to map marine features as well. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: An interesting link, I am looking at it now. FYI, I have started experimentally mapping coral reef edges visible on landsat with a subsea=coral_reef way tag. I'd welcome anyone else to join in and share thoughts. I feel there should be a high-level subsea= tag to map point, lineal and area features that are always or normally underwater. The other main value I've started using is subsea=channel, name= for names of channels, sounds and straits gleaned from out-of-copyright maps. Mike At 03:05 AM 26/02/2009, maning sambale wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For some excellent OC-OC tips on island mapping look here:http://www.evs-islands.com/ Mr. Minton previously used only LANDSAT data for his highly accurateisland maps. Some reefs are visible in LANDSAT. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Eureka!!! it worked na. And the newer version is so so much better pa! lalo na naman akong ginanahan! I will help with the coast lines. In fact even with Yahoo pa lang I did some coastline refining na especially in Anilao, Tingloy and Maricaban. And now, my alma mater reef: ligpo! :) ed On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Can you try the latest josm version? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Maning, Still can't get the wmsplugin to load in my JOSM ... always comes up with the message could not load plugin wmsplugin. delete from preferences? help! :) ed On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: whew! finally finished masbate. Next will be Sibuyan! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:47 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I did for Ticao Island: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?zoom=11lat=12.51694lon=123.72751layers=B00T On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:44 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, An appeal for editing this Month (February 2009). Coastline clean-up. We have one of the most extensive coastlines in the world. Currently OSM Philippines' coastline is a very rough import we made a few years back using medium resolution SRTM data.A lot of very small islands are not included in the SRTM import. I have started editing coastlines around Visayas (Biliran, Ticao and Masbate). I request all Philippine mappers to adapt a few island and give them some coastline love. You can easily do this with landsat imagery (available both on potlatch, josm, and merkaator). For very large ¨P3lZb Ï°- lZb landmasses like Luzon or Mindanao please split coastlines into manageable segments. Links to coastline editing: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- -- cheers,maning--Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Brandenwiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/--
[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] ODbL License + Outline Procedure
Please translate and pass on to the country-specific lists... Follow-up discussion best suited on http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk or the avenues discussed in this announcement. - The OSMF License Working Group is excited and pleased to announce the completion of legal drafting and review by our legal counsel of the new proposed license, the Open Database License Agreement (ODbL). The working group have put much effort in to inputting OSMs needs and supporting the creation of this license however OpenStreetMap's expertise is not in law. Therefore, we have worked with the license authors and others to build a suitable home where a community and process can be built around it. Its new home is with the Open Data Commons http://www.opendatacommons.org. We encourage the OSM community join in the Open Data Commons comments process from today to make sure that the license is the best possible license for us. The license remains firmly rooted in the attribution, share-alike provisions of the existing Creative Commons License but the ODbL is far more suitable for open factual databases rather than the creative works of art. It extends far greater potential protection and is far clearer when, why and where the share-alike provisions are triggered. The license is now available at http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/ and you are welcome to make final comments about the license itself via a wiki and mailing list also at http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/ up until 20th March 23:59 GMT. To be clear, this process is led by the ODC and comments should be made there as part of that process. Attached below is our proposed adoption plan and the latest will be at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan . This is not cast in stone and we welcome direct comments on the discussion page for the plan: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan . In summary, we'd like to give time for final license comments to be absorbed, ask OSMF members to vote on whether they wish to put the current version of the new license to the community for adoption and then begin the adoption process itself. The board has decided to wait until the final version before formally reviewing the license. Our legal counsel has also responded to the OSM-contributed Use Cases http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_Licence/Use_Cases and his responses have been added there. OSMFs legal counsel also recommends the use of the Factual Information License http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/fil/ for the individual contributions from individual data contributors, and any aggregation covered by the ODbL. There other open issues that we seek OSM community support and input on. If you would like to help, please give input at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Issues For instance: Who actually should be the licensor of the ODbL license? The OSM Foundation is the logical choice but are there any alternatives? And implementation What Ifs ... for example, what if the license is not accepted? Thank you for your patience with this process. The license working group looks forward to working with community input and an opening up of the process. -- All dates approximate for review. License Plan 27th February: * This draft adoption plan made public to legal and talk list with the draft license text made available by the Open Data Commons (with facility for comments back) . Local contacts asked to assist in passing on the message, and subsequent announcements. 2nd March: * Working group meeting. Finalise implementation plan following review of plan comments; What If scenario planning. 12th March: * Working group meeting. Review of community feedback received to date. 20th March: * End of ODbL comment period. 28 March: * ODbL 1.0 is expected to be released by Open Data Commons at The Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) London event. 31st March: * OSMF Board endorses licence and asks OSMF members (as of 23rd January) to vote (1 week) on whether ODbL 1.0 should be put to the community for adoption. What follows is based on a positive response from the OSMF members... + 1 week: * Website only allows you to log in and use API when you have set yes/no on new license. New signups agree to both licenses. Sign up page still says dual licensing so that we can release planet etc. People who have made zero edits are automatically moved over to new license and are emailed a notice. * Website to allow users to voluntarily agree to new license. Design allows you to click yes, or if you disagree a further page explaining the position and asking to reconsider as there may be a requirement to ultimately remove the users data. This will help stop people accidentally clicking 'no'. Sign up page now states you agree to license your changes under
[talk-ph] On public domain data in the Philippines
Eugene, I vaguely remember during our meet-up in Grappas that you were discussing something about the use of public domain data in the Philippines. You mentioned that data in the public domain as defined in the Philippines cannot be used for commercial purposes. Did I get this right? Please clarify. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
