Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import
Just a question, how many island ways are we talking about here? On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:19 PM, maning sambale wrote: >> As I only know the name of 3 Islands, you'll have to provide me with a link >> showing where the islands you don't want uploaded are. > Hope this helps: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import#Coastline_Corrections > > I you can be able to omit coastline import on these areas, +1 for me > in favor of the import. Let's see what others have to say. > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import
> As I only know the name of 3 Islands, you'll have to provide me with a link > showing where the islands you don't want uploaded are. Hope this helps: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import#Coastline_Corrections I you can be able to omit coastline import on these areas, +1 for me in favor of the import. Let's see what others have to say. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import
Hi, To answer a few questions. I have not yet uploaded the coastline data, so you would be able to tell which coastline is pre upload, because it would be tagged "note:pre_PGS_import_2009". This I believe will be searchable using JOSM. The coastlines I intend to upload have (hopefully) had all the ways in each island joined into one large way. (Wrote my own script to do this in the end). This means, if you have a nice hand drawn island, such as Boracy, all you have to do to delete the import, is select one way which is tagged "source:PGS_import_2009" and delete it. If you want to delete the original data, and not the imported data, all you will need to do is select all the ways which are tagged "note:pre_PGS_import_2009" and delete them. Comparing the PGS data with Landsat images, in some places it is very good, but for some reason, in other places it follows the foothills on islands, rather than the coastline. I could also delete the islands from the data that people don't want uploaded. This would also speed up the uploading time. As I only know the name of 3 Islands, you'll have to provide me with a link showing where the islands you don't want uploaded are. Of course we don't have to upload this data if it's not wanted, I have no problem letting people go on drawing the coastlines by hand. Cheers, Ian --- On Tue, 9/6/09, maning sambale wrote: From: maning sambale Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import To: "Ian Haylock" , "Openstreetmap Philippines" Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 5:07 AM I believe IanHaylock did a lot of offline editing (for duplicates and corrected coastlines) before this upload. He mentioned it to me off-list. @ IanHaylock, can you clarify this here? On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Hmmm... I think we should treat this like any other import (like the > recently-discussed Palawan data). > > In lots of areas, the coastline has already been adjusted from the > SRTM-based coastline before using the Landsat imagery in Yahoo. PGS is based > from Landsat so in these areas, the PGS might not be significantly better. > > In other areas, the jagged SRTM-based coastline still exists so PGS would be > better. While in other areas, the coastline has been traced using the > high-resolution satellite imagery in Yahoo! (for Metro Manila and Davao) so > PGS would definitely by worse. > > I think we should convert this to GPX and let people using JOSM and > Merkaartor manually import/replace. (I don't think this GPX file should be > included in the main OSM GPX database.) > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:31 AM, maning sambale > wrote: >> >> How do we know which one is pre_pgs and pgs_import? >> AFAIK, most of Luzon mainland has better coastline than PGS. >> Especially around Metro Manila and and the west coast. >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.2067&lon=120.042&zoom=14&layers=B000FTFT >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Ian Haylock wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have the PGS coastline import just about ready to upload. >> > >> > My suggestions about doing this are : >> > >> > 1 Everyone stops working on the coastline until the upload is complete. >> > >> > 2 When Cloudmade does its next update for the Philippines. Download this >> > file and tag all the current coastline data with a tag such as >> > "note:pre_pgs_import_2009". >> > >> > 3 Tag the new PGS coastline with "source:pgs_import_2009" >> > >> > 4 Upload the PGS coastline. >> > >> > Cheers, Ian >> > >> > ___ >> > talk-ph mailing list >> > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> -- >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> -- >> >> ___ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > -- > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import
I believe IanHaylock did a lot of offline editing (for duplicates and corrected coastlines) before this upload. He mentioned it to me off-list. @ IanHaylock, can you clarify this here? On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Hmmm... I think we should treat this like any other import (like the > recently-discussed Palawan data). > > In lots of areas, the coastline has already been adjusted from the > SRTM-based coastline before using the Landsat imagery in Yahoo. PGS is based > from Landsat so in these areas, the PGS might not be significantly better. > > In other areas, the jagged SRTM-based coastline still exists so PGS would be > better. While in other areas, the coastline has been traced using the > high-resolution satellite imagery in Yahoo! (for Metro Manila and Davao) so > PGS would definitely by worse. > > I think we should convert this to GPX and let people using JOSM and > Merkaartor manually import/replace. (I don't think this GPX file should be > included in the main OSM GPX database.) > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:31 AM, maning sambale > wrote: >> >> How do we know which one is pre_pgs and pgs_import? >> AFAIK, most of Luzon mainland has better coastline than PGS. >> Especially around Metro Manila and and the west coast. >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.2067&lon=120.042&zoom=14&layers=B000FTFT >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Ian Haylock wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have the PGS coastline import just about ready to upload. >> > >> > My suggestions about doing this are : >> > >> > 1 Everyone stops working on the coastline until the upload is complete. >> > >> > 2 When Cloudmade does its next update for the Philippines. Download this >> > file and tag all the current coastline data with a tag such as >> > "note:pre_pgs_import_2009". >> > >> > 3 Tag the new PGS coastline with "source:pgs_import_2009" >> > >> > 4 Upload the PGS coastline. >> > >> > Cheers, Ian >> > >> > ___ >> > talk-ph mailing list >> > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> -- >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> -- >> >> ___ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > -- > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import
Hmmm... I think we should treat this like any other import (like the recently-discussed Palawan data). In lots of areas, the coastline has already been adjusted from the SRTM-based coastline before using the Landsat imagery in Yahoo. PGS is based from Landsat so in these areas, the PGS might not be significantly better. In other areas, the jagged SRTM-based coastline still exists so PGS would be better. While in other areas, the coastline has been traced using the high-resolution satellite imagery in Yahoo! (for Metro Manila and Davao) so PGS would definitely by worse. I think we should convert this to GPX and let people using JOSM and Merkaartor manually import/replace. (I don't think this GPX file should be included in the main OSM GPX database.) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:31 AM, maning sambale wrote: > How do we know which one is pre_pgs and pgs_import? > AFAIK, most of Luzon mainland has better coastline than PGS. > Especially around Metro Manila and and the west coast. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.2067&lon=120.042&zoom=14&layers=B000FTFT > > Thanks! > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Ian Haylock wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have the PGS coastline import just about ready to upload. > > > > My suggestions about doing this are : > > > > 1 Everyone stops working on the coastline until the upload is complete. > > > > 2 When Cloudmade does its next update for the Philippines. Download this > > file and tag all the current coastline data with a tag such as > > "note:pre_pgs_import_2009". > > > > 3 Tag the new PGS coastline with "source:pgs_import_2009" > > > > 4 Upload the PGS coastline. > > > > Cheers, Ian > > > > ___ > > talk-ph mailing list > > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Hong Kong
Hi all. I'm off to HK at the end of this week, and will be doing the customary tech shopping. If any mappers in the Manila area want me to pick up some GPS/tech supplies, contact me off-list. Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import
How do we know which one is pre_pgs and pgs_import? AFAIK, most of Luzon mainland has better coastline than PGS. Especially around Metro Manila and and the west coast. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=16.2067&lon=120.042&zoom=14&layers=B000FTFT Thanks! On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Ian Haylock wrote: > Hi, > > I have the PGS coastline import just about ready to upload. > > My suggestions about doing this are : > > 1 Everyone stops working on the coastline until the upload is complete. > > 2 When Cloudmade does its next update for the Philippines. Download this > file and tag all the current coastline data with a tag such as > "note:pre_pgs_import_2009". > > 3 Tag the new PGS coastline with "source:pgs_import_2009" > > 4 Upload the PGS coastline. > > Cheers, Ian > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import
Hi, I have the PGS coastline import just about ready to upload. My suggestions about doing this are : 1 Everyone stops working on the coastline until the upload is complete. 2 When Cloudmade does its next update for the Philippines. Download this file and tag all the current coastline data with a tag such as "note:pre_pgs_import_2009". 3 Tag the new PGS coastline with "source:pgs_import_2009" 4 Upload the PGS coastline. Cheers, Ian ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] smackcode and osm on ideacamp-davao
@maning: Thanks, kulang sa oras but I'm pretty sure it got them interested @seav: same here if we could do something like that especially since we now that a mapping party has been done (and more coming) that would be really cool :) On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Galing! > > I've seen a few OSM-themed presentations lately and the ITO OSM 2008 video > never fails to make an appearance. Hehehe. And looking at that animation > never gets old. > > I hope we can make an equally beautiful animation for the Philippines. :-) > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, maning sambale > wrote: >> >> Nice! >> http://vimeo.com/5036675 >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> -- >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> -- >> >> ___ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > -- > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] smackcode and osm on ideacamp-davao
Galing! I've seen a few OSM-themed presentations lately and the ITO OSM 2008 video never fails to make an appearance. Hehehe. And looking at that animation never gets old. I hope we can make an equally beautiful animation for the Philippines. :-) On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM, maning sambale wrote: > Nice! > http://vimeo.com/5036675 > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] smackcode and osm on ideacamp-davao
Nice! http://vimeo.com/5036675 -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
