[talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
Hi, I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company. They own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS. They are willing to donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway). Focus areas includes Visayas. Do you think this is a worthwhile data source? Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing. Any idea on how we should proceed? -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
Great. Actually, we need the data for averaging tracks (and if you ask me, I always prefer visual method for best-fit trace over existing satellite images, if they're available). otherwise, we just trace over the tracklogs which represent most likely the center-of-the-roads). Other mappers can name the roads later. I don't suggest uploading their entire gpx data to osm. We only need a few quality tracks. We can expect multiple tracklogs over the same roads on their delivery routes, and I believe we have lots of talents here who can make sense out of their chaotic random lines. Let's see how we go about the clean-up. :-) How big are the files? On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM, maning sambale wrote: > Hi, > > I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company. They > own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS. They are willing to > donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway). > Focus areas includes Visayas. Do you think this is a worthwhile data > source? > > Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing. Any idea on how > we should proceed? > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Rally de Leon wrote: > How big are the files? He he. Excited, wala pa po. We have arranged further discussions. Honestly, I want to see the units first so that I can configure it to 1sec tracking :) Will keep the list posted and hope we can share the load in editing. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
For data donations, do you have any written (by paper of email) consent from the donor? If we have one, why not add the data to OSM. murlwe <-Original Message-> >From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] >Sent: 6/9/2009 4:14:23 PM >To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company > >Hi, > >I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company. They >own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS. They are willing to >donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway). >Focus areas includes Visayas. Do you think this is a worthwhile data source? > >Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing. Any idea on how >we should proceed? > > >-- >cheers, >maning >-- >"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >-- > >___ >talk-ph mailing list >talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >. > ___Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com target=new>http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More!___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marloue Pidor wrote: > For data donations, do you have any written (by paper of email) consent > from the donor? If we have one, why not add the data to OSM. > > murlwe > Maybe it depends on the data. If gps tracks will come from delivery vans and they have (more or less) the same route everyday, we'll have lots of redundant gpx tracks on osm (which may be very hard to look at). The group needs to qualify them first before uploading. I'm just not sure if these donors are aware of security issues. It is best to keep their names (and nature of business) confidential. What if it's an armored van carrying money (or container van delivering high-value electronics)? we become automatic suspects if somebody rob/hijack the van. Si maning ang unang ito-torture ng NBI/CIDG, hehe ;-) But maybe, if it's the type like aluminum van that delivers appliances, then that will be great since they don't have fix route. > > <-Original Message-> > >From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] > >Sent: 6/9/2009 4:14:23 PM > >To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > >Subject: Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company > > > >Hi, > > > >I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company. They > >own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS. They are willing to > >donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway). > >Focus areas includes Visayas. Do you think this is a worthwhile data > source? > > > >Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing. Any idea on how > >we should proceed? > > > > > >-- > >cheers, > >maning > >-- > >"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >-- > > > >___ > >talk-ph mailing list > >talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > >http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > >. > > > > ___ > Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com > Unlimited Email Storage POP3 Calendar SMS Translator Much More! > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12
Hi, Can we put the NOAA shoreline data for OSM??it might be helpful if its free... thanks, ,noel ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12
Not entirely sure, but NOAA coastline are too coarse for our level of mapping. Need to check and verfiy On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:43 AM, noel mondragon wrote: > Hi, > > Can we put the NOAA shoreline data for OSM??it might be helpful if its > free... > > thanks, > > ,noel > > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12
Yes, too coarse ... it is accurate enough in positioning, but coarse. It is what I used for waypoints.ph vicinity maps. It has more islands and islets though than the current OSM coastlines. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM, maning sambale wrote: > Not entirely sure, but NOAA coastline are too coarse for our level of > mapping. Need to check and verfiy > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:43 AM, noel mondragon > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Can we put the NOAA shoreline data for OSM??it might be helpful if its > > free... > > > > thanks, > > > > ,noel > > > > > > ___ > > talk-ph mailing list > > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Rally de Leon wrote: > We only need a few quality tracks. Generally, I am in favor of uploading the GPX traces in OSM even if you don't think your personal traces is not very much useful to others. Who knows in the future, some OSM hacker might: 1. use multiple traces to interpolate road width; http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3564/3613408786_f4fb5f791b_o.jpg that's edsa by the way from josm 2. analyze timestamps and point intervals, to interpolate traffic and average speed at certain times of the day. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
