Re: [talk-ph] PNR back on track

2009-07-17 Thread ian lopez
Yes, the PNR tracks from the Tutuban area to Alabang are on the map - however, 
the tracks are "extended" to a point between Valenzuela and Meycauayan in the 
north and somewhere between Tiaong and Candelaria (both in Quezon province) in 
the south. There are some stations added/edited between Tutuban and Alabang 
since a year ago, but I've managed to add two stations south of Alabang (Pacita 
Complex, San Pablo) during that time as well. Maybe we should map the entire 
PNR line up to Bicol (and "link up" with the lines added in Candelaria and 
Lucena ) if the entire line is completed within two years (my estimate).

BTW, the old PNR trains are/were still in operation until possibly the time of 
the reopening.

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, maning sambale  wrote:
Hi,

INQ reported that the PNR is operational again with new trains (yellow
curtains) up to Alabang.  The Bicol route will soon operate by next
year (?).

Is it in the map already?



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[talk-ph] mapping request for a small city

2009-07-17 Thread maning sambale
Hi,

Just want to let you know that we are being requested to map small
city up north.  All expense will be paid including possibly a small
take home sum. ;)

I'm still arranging the details how long it should take, costs, equipment, etc.

On the top of my mind, my plan is to map all primary and secondary
highway, POIs.  Then conduct a training to local people on how to
maintain the map for updates.

This would be a very intensive mapping effort if anyone is willing to
join for maybe a week or so of mapping, raise you hand!

If you have other ideas just let me know.

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Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request

2009-07-17 Thread Jim Morgan
Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Friday, 17 July, 2009 06:38 PM:
>> The only 'gotcha' with the GT-31 is that its waypoints dump needs to be 
>> converted to a recognisable format on a windows box. So you'd sidestep that 
>> if you were logging directly to TangoGPS.

> That gotcha is definitely a big gotcha. I don't stock windoze computers,
> so that would be pretty annoying. *Does anyone know of any gps loggers
> that can be bought for a reasonable amount of money that does NOT use
> some obscure proprietary file format?*

Just to clarify ... the Tracks are OK - they're logged in Nmea format and can 
be turned into gpx with gpsbabel. The waypoint dumps are in some weird format: 
Invisibly translated under Windows, with the supplied software, but a bit of a 
pain with Linux. So you'd only need the windows box for converting the dumps, 
after mapping. Or if you're plugged into tangoGPS, then no problem, you can 
just take waypoints in the software directly. 

Here is the reply from Locosys on 4th March. 
"  The conversion can be done by using NAVILINK utility.
   However NAVILINK only support Windows platform.
   GPSBabel 1.3.6 does not support the binary format conversion yet.
   We are checking with GPSbabel author if it is possible to add the feature in 
next
   release."

So its possible it might be OK by now.

Jim

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Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request

2009-07-17 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.


Jim Morgan wrote:
> Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 06:52 PM:
>   
>> Thanks Jim, that is very useful! Will definitely check out one of those
>> converters.
>> 
>
> You can probably get them anywhere, but I just found them on that site 
> recently. 
>   
Yep, I was aware of their existence, I just didn't realize they were so
cheap :)
>   
>> I was thinking of simply collecting all the data and process it when we
>> come home to Magalang, but it seems increasingly intriguing to bring a
>> laptop and do edits directly on the "road". Do you know if usable
>> packages exit for Ubuntu that can act as a GPS with one of the loggers
>> connected to the USB port?
>> 
>
> According to Maning, the guys in Davao did just that:
>   
>> The davao guys murlwe and smackcode used the gpstogo units with tangogps:
>> http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/diy-gps-navigation-rig.html
>> 
This is perfect for mapping from a car, which is fortunately most of the
time.
However, if I go on a long trip on foot, the laptop will eventually run
out of battery, so I can't depend on logging straight to TagoGPS all the
time.

>
> I'm not sure how that worked exactly, but tangoGPS uses gpsd, so anything 
> that can communicate with that  will work. I was using a bluetooth dongle, 
> but a USB connection would work just as well, as long as Ubuntu recognises 
> it. You have to fiddle with rfcomm a bit I seem to remember. Hopefully those 
> pointers will give you enough to go on. 
>
>   USB -> rfcomm -> gpsd -> TangoGPS
>
> The only 'gotcha' with the GT-31 is that its waypoints dump needs to be 
> converted to a recognisable format on a windows box. So you'd sidestep that 
> if you were logging directly to TangoGPS.
>
> Jim
>
>   
Very useful, Jim! Thanks a lot for that.
That gotcha is definitely a big gotcha. I don't stock windoze computers,
so that would be pretty annoying. *Does anyone know of any gps loggers
that can be bought for a reasonable amount of money that does NOT use
some obscure proprietary file format?*
I'm still in the UK so I can get one from here if needed.
I could always use my dusty old Win2k VM, which I'm sure I can dig out
from my backup hard drive somewhere, but I can't remember if USB was
even invented at that time, not do I know if it will work in VMWare. But
I really just want to avoid reliance on proprietary stuff. I want to be
able to help others with this after I've done it, and people that know
me knows very well that I will never say "then just start up Windows to
download and convert this file". There must be a better solution.
Will search for some linux friendly GPS loggers on Amazon later :)

Ronny.
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Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request

2009-07-17 Thread Jim Morgan
Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 06:52 PM:
> Thanks Jim, that is very useful! Will definitely check out one of those
> converters.

You can probably get them anywhere, but I just found them on that site 
recently. 

> I was thinking of simply collecting all the data and process it when we
> come home to Magalang, but it seems increasingly intriguing to bring a
> laptop and do edits directly on the "road". Do you know if usable
> packages exit for Ubuntu that can act as a GPS with one of the loggers
> connected to the USB port?

According to Maning, the guys in Davao did just that:
> The davao guys murlwe and smackcode used the gpstogo units with tangogps:
> http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/diy-gps-navigation-rig.html

I'm not sure how that worked exactly, but tangoGPS uses gpsd, so anything that 
can communicate with that  will work. I was using a bluetooth dongle, but a USB 
connection would work just as well, as long as Ubuntu recognises it. You have 
to fiddle with rfcomm a bit I seem to remember. Hopefully those pointers will 
give you enough to go on. 

  USB -> rfcomm -> gpsd -> TangoGPS

The only 'gotcha' with the GT-31 is that its waypoints dump needs to be 
converted to a recognisable format on a windows box. So you'd sidestep that if 
you were logging directly to TangoGPS.

Jim

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